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If he doesn't want to make music any more, then forcing him to (with money and cheering) won't have very good results. If he wants to make music, he will continue to do that even if his label is bankrupt. This is the way of artists.

And how do you know he's a bwhale? He turned me into a newt! You'll have to take your witch hunt elsewhere, last I heard your "bwhale" character was posting on the Twisted Records messageboard.

The Muses Rapt - Galactic Love Some of the vocals remind me of Gayniggers From Outer Space, others remind me of The Lion King.

Most people in this forum are well known morons. Funny how much effort it takes to try and show people a fact when they don't want to believe it. In the end their last method of denial is to claim it's trolling.

True and it's a huge dilemma as there's no way for any company or artist to stop it. I have pirated photoshop too. I couldn't afford the original for leisure use, but even if it was only $20 I'd probably still pirate it instead. Putting more value and focus into the physical product is probably the best option right now to interest people in buying it, ie. making lovely 20 page booklets and digipaks. Maybe Ayn Rand wasn't completely useless, I see parallels between this and Atlas Shrugged. Maybe the internet will become a wasteland in the future and artists will only play their music live. That or real regulations will eventually be created, or new values put into society (by radical methods). It will be interesting to watch it unfold. I need to pirate as much as possible while the going's good.

Most of the religious samples have to do with Hinduism. Unfortunately I don't know enough about it, but I think it is not all about love and peace and kindness. Worshipping gods is cool. Worshipping equality and love and kindness is pathetic. I think there is a romantic element too. Wouldn't it be cool to believe in something? To live in an cool sci-fi world?

Here's an old response from Phototropic taken off discogs. SynSUN responses with denial and trying to mislead people. (Sure it was mastered from WAVEs, but the WAVEs were only mp3 quality.)

Extremely good. Even though he's one of the fattest cats in town, everyone is giving him milk because he's also very cunning: he's warmed up to the average masses and knows how to whine at the right time. When it would be better to steal it and donate the cost than buy it directly, it must be your own fault for buying such a thing.

I agree. Bwhale (whales are mammals, by the way) is the only person on the entire internet that would possibly try to spread these malicious truths that go against the will of Simon Posford, our Lord and Savior. Anyone who claims 600 presales for a psy CD is extraordinarily large, 320kbps mp3s are not low quality, or any other such nonsense that goes against the word of our Master must be sought out and burned, for he surely has blubber.

I think the 16kHz cutoff and blockiness are quite clear on the spectral analysis pictures. It doesn't phase audiochecker either, though a few tracks are uncertain results. I guess track 4, 5 and 10 were most heavily changed by the mastering. Unfortunately adding high frequencies where they were cut off before doesn't restore the loss of quality, it only extrapolates on it. 01 -=- 01-SynSUN_-_Longholier.wav -=- MPEG (73%) 02 -=- 02-SynSUN_-_Sun_(Vax_Mix).wav -=- MPEG (85%) 03 -=- 03-SynSUN_-_Solid_State.wav -=- ERROR 04 -=- 04-SynSUN_-_Spiritual_Healing.wav -=- CDDA (92%) 05 -=- 05-SynSUN_-_Astral_Projection.wav -=- CDDA (54%) 06 -=- 06-SynSUN_-_Forsaken.wav -=- MPEG (95%) 07 -=- 07-SynSUN_-_Parade_Of_Planet.wav -=- MPEG (95%) 08 -=- 08-SynSUN_-_Millenium.wav -=- MPEG (95%) 09 -=- 09-SynSUN_-_Fatal_Error.wav -=- MPEG (95%) 10 -=- 10-SynSUN_-_Zero_Tolerance.wav -=- CDDA (49%) 11 -=- 11-SynSUN_-_Juno.wav -=- MPEG (95%)

Keep in mind it was remastered for the CD. TRACK 1 COMPLETE: http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/720/longholier.png TRACK 1 ZOOM 5 SEC: http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8009/61235662.png ORIGINAL MP3 VERSION, TRACK 1 ZOOM 5 SEC: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1024/224kbps.png (Note: I think the mp3s I downloaded may be a transcode. They are 224kbps lol.) Anyways, it's an intersting question what the original bitrate mp3s were. I guess not bad, maybe 320kbps. I've been waiting for a long time now for a program to determine the real bitrate of an mp3. Read this article recently. http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1597817.1597828

What I'm telling you is an established, irrefutable fact that any audiophile knows. There's nothing to "disagree" on, there's only denial. Unless you can explain how it's a low quality rip, you're just blowing smoke out your ass. There are two things you can challenge: 1. The source: Claim it wasn't taken from the CD or original WAVEs. Tell us where it was taken from, for example a vinyl, a cassette, a radio broadcast, a live recording... what? 2. The processing: If you think it was transcoded carelessly, which is against scene rules, common sense and rarely ever happens, then prove it by showing us what is wrong in a spectral analysis. Otherwise just stop talking.

That trolling was mostly true, just a little exaggerated. It's a tragic scene. I'd be too scared to register there and try to say anything rational to the mob of shponglese fanboys.

I would hardly call a 320kbps mp3 release lower quality. If you do a test you will be unable to tell the difference between that and the original WAVEs. The samples on Twisted's website are only 192kbps. There WILL be an audible difference between listening to those and the original WAVEs. The leaked quality is extremely superior to the samples quality. Consider yourself refuted. They're comparing it to other music which doesn't require a hundred growing attempts before it can be appreciated. If you listen to random noise enough times it will start to grow on you too.

Thank you Basilisk for that fresh breath of reason. I have checked it and that's why I know with certainty the source files were mp3. I guess others can believe whatever they want, since I can't force anyone to check for themselves. I wouldn't think of blaming Phototropic since they never knew before hand that the source quality was mp3. The only people that new... were SynSUN. And we've already been through that earlier.

What Imba considers good quality, maybe. One is still undoubtedly sourced from mp3s.

I understand, I am leaving the goa/psy scene too. Us free spirits don't like to get stagnated. Once we get accustomed to something, we are already aware it is time to move on, as hard as that might seem, it is our necessity and our strength. I hope you experience a lot of new things and come out on top... even though I've never heard your music before or anything. Bye now.

Hi, there's nothing "wrong" with me. I'm glad to see that 4 of your releases are actually pressed CDs: http://www.discogs.com/label/Phototropic+Records Unfortunately there's no mention on your website that the others (the majority so far) are on CD-R media, so I consider that a little misleading for customers like the person who asked the question earlier, that don't know what kunaki does. As for mp3 sourced Phototropic releases, the only one I know of is Zelur Project. There probably aren't any others since Zelur Project is the only ancient music and there's no reason for them to be mp3 sourced unless the original WAVEs were lost.

Nobody is guessing based on what they feel or hear, there are software algorithms that can analyze audio and easily detect, except in the case of dark ambient and stuff, if they are likely MP3 quality or not. And the answer is: the source files (prior to mastering) for Zelur Project were MP3s. Probably the original WAVEs of Zelur Project were lost, since it was made quite a long time ago.

Good question. Not surprising, Phototropic misleads customers by never saying anywhere their releases are in CDr format, but that is the case with almost all if not all of them. Anything bought from kunaki is definitely on CDr. Kunaki is actually a pretty good system. Anyone can upload music and artwork to it and print off their own CDrs, whether just 1 copy or multiple.

Doctor Acid Virtuart Sundial Aeon

Since it's on a CDr, kunaki just prints them out and ships them as they are ordered. I think it's reputable, used it before without problems.

I don't think you know anything about the situation, so I'd say your nose doesn't belong here. Why would I want to be indefinitely classy? Lol. I don't respect everyone, indiscriminately. I'm only classy when I choose to be. And being cool has nothing to do with being classy.

Those are great. Almost forgot: Groovology Of The Metaverse by Insectoid ...the only science/philosophy you need

Their music is some of my favorite. I don't see that it follows that I can't call them on their subreption and outright lying. Are they divine entities I must worship or something? Being an artist, I'm sure he knows ALL about high quality audio vs lossy compressed audio, so no need to play naive or innocent. Just admit that Zelur Project was released in poor quality, tell us whether the next 2 will be in higher quality or not (=yes), and that's all there is to it. It's pretty much solved now, but you had to stick your nose in where it doesn't belong. Loving psy has little to do with class. Almost all people that love psy have no class anyways.