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Hello,

I'm looking for it -- >>

https://www.discogs.com/release/9388-Pleiadians-IFO-Identified-Flying-Object

Dragonfly Records – bflcd24

Would be good a VG+ or NM, but I'm not interested in re-surfacing/polished copy.

I can pay a 'median' price ~ €32

Pm me, if you have a offer.

Thx

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5 hours ago, technosomy said:

i would be trying to get the dat reissue, superior in every way

I agree well worth it. For me this re-issue alongside the Etnica Live In Athens 1996 and the Crop Circles-Tetrahedron vinyl 2019 re-issue (with the bonus tracks.)

Are like the Goa Trance equivalent to the LOTR extended editions lol. :D All tha extra goodies… a holy trinity!

 

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On 3/31/2022 at 2:23 AM, Paul Eye said:

How is 3 CDs of garbage better than 1 CD of garbage?

Maia , Electra, etc especially 'Alcyone' as garbage ?   maybe just too complex for your primitive brain.. go listen minimal techno, that is your level

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42 minutes ago, Mantra604 said:

Maia , Electra, etc especially 'Alcyone' as garbage ?   maybe just too complex for your primitive brain.. go listen minimal techno, that is your level

Fanboys going into hyperventilation and losing all ability to think is funny to observe.

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43 minutes ago, Paul Eye said:

Fanboys going into hyperventilation and losing all ability to think is funny to observe.

man, i don't like sh*t trolls like you.. it's my topic,  if you don't have offer, please don't write here.. thanks

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Well I was feeling quite shit when I posted that. I still do, but some clarification might be in order.

My personal problem with Etnica/Pleiadians/Crop Circles is their sound (the production, that is). They somehow manage to sound both dull, lifeless, and messy all at the same time. This is especially evident on IFO, which productionwise (ignoring all the musical qualities which are of course a matter of personal preference) sounds, to put it bluntly, like shit. Both the original mix and master are awful. Now if you do a remaster based on that (because the CD release is what was used as basis for the "remaster"), there's absolutely no way you can make it sound good no matter what you do since the source is already ruined. Now the biggest joke of the reissue is that 2 of the tracks on the "vinyl tracks" 3rd CD are at the wrong speed (equivalent to pitching the tracks up/down about 10% on a CDJ), since obviously someone fucked up the sample rates, and nobody even noticed until after the CDs went on sale and someone pointed out the error. Top class production right there. So how exactly is this reissue supposed to be "superior" to the original?

I could of course rant on and on about what IFO fanboyism caused for countless copycat newschool goa producers but that's getting out of scope. So I'll just stop here.

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5 hours ago, Paul Eye said:

Well I was feeling quite shit when I posted that. I still do, but some clarification might be in order.

My personal problem with Etnica/Pleiadians/Crop Circles is their sound (the production, that is). They somehow manage to sound both dull, lifeless, and messy all at the same time. This is especially evident on IFO, which productionwise (ignoring all the musical qualities which are of course a matter of personal preference) sounds, to put it bluntly, like shit....

 

..IMO.. in these days 99% of fans are not interested in sound quality. they listen these releases at sh*t sound system (
cheap speakers / headphones ) anyway, we live in age of 'loudness war'. maybe that is problem, you compare old goa cd's to new releases (2001< ). that's why you find them dull lifeless..  so not loud & harsh enough as new ones..  or idk.. btw some track ex: Merope is terrible recording -indeed-, but most/bests are ok. (for me) alcyone, modulation etc

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I do remember when I first heard Pleiadians, I didn’t quite understand what the fuzz was all about. But after a while I started to appreciate their organic and very raw sound more. It’s bit punky almost, which to me personally these days, in comparison to the super clean(almost sterile) modern sound. Can be quite a nice contrast. Everything has its time, its audience and above all hopefully something unique which sets it apart.

Besides all the superficial aspects of music, such as perceived sound quality etc. These old albums to me have something more important. They had a message, which why they made such an impact.

Whatever one might think of the music, it did contribute to the scene and influenced the styles we hear today. So all the classics have their legacy.

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16 hours ago, Paul Eye said:

Well I was feeling quite shit when I posted that. I still do, but some clarification might be in order.

My personal problem with Etnica/Pleiadians/Crop Circles is their sound (the production, that is). They somehow manage to sound both dull, lifeless, and messy all at the same time. This is especially evident on IFO, which productionwise (ignoring all the musical qualities which are of course a matter of personal preference) sounds, to put it bluntly, like shit. Both the original mix and master are awful. Now if you do a remaster based on that (because the CD release is what was used as basis for the "remaster"), there's absolutely no way you can make it sound good no matter what you do since the source is already ruined. Now the biggest joke of the reissue is that 2 of the tracks on the "vinyl tracks" 3rd CD are at the wrong speed (equivalent to pitching the tracks up/down about 10% on a CDJ), since obviously someone fucked up the sample rates, and nobody even noticed until after the CDs went on sale and someone pointed out the error. Top class production right there. So how exactly is this reissue supposed to be "superior" to the original?

I could of course rant on and on about what IFO fanboyism caused for countless copycat newschool goa producers but that's getting out of scope. So I'll just stop here.

sounds good to my ears and plenty of others by the looks of it , but you know what they say about opinions, and i like it, so yes maybe leave it there

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IFO (and pleadians/etnica in general) always sounded harsh and raw. I think its an overrated album also. Theres 2 really good tracks in there, rest are ok to good. The re-issue is better cause it just sounds better, and has more tracks. Pleaidians always had their best tracks on compilations or as guest artists / remixers. Case in point: Full mental jackpot (pl remix), antidote (pl remix), zeta reticuli, and time dilation.

but why we are discussing this in a WTB/WTS thread is a bit strange

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  • 4 weeks later...

I bought it, case closed.  topic can even be deleted.

-- >> the Trinity :> 

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It felt like magic getting that album on physical the first time. I'm stunned the remastered version has been completely sold out as well and there are apparently no plans for re-release.

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