Basilisk Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I am only peripherally aware of a subculture of disco re-edits based on polishing up obscure old records and re-releasing them, usually on vinyl. I suppose the idea is to breathe new life into forgotten music? Anyway, a friend of mine passed on links to a re-edit that was immediately familiar to me (and will probably be familiar to you as well). Check this out: There's also this one, can anyone ID it? Sounds super familiar: Have a look at the promo text for the release: http://www.rushhour.nl/distribution_detailed.php?item=74939 They've also got two more here not without samples on Youtube: http://www.rushhour.nl/distribution_detailed.php?item=77821 Here's their profile on Discogs (which will allow you to follow the trail back to Atomic Records of all places...): http://www.discogs.com/artist/3766554-Full-Circle-16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmot Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 There's also this one, can anyone ID it? Is it Trans.Ø 10 C from the B side of Spectral - Bizarre Planet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I think the first one sounds like Koxbox, no?edit: Oh I just read obscure so scratch that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmot Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 That one isn't too obscure. If you can't decrypt it, check the Discogs comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Oh yeah, Orichalcum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Good ear... how about the other two? I'm also curious about opinions of the legality (or even creative justification) for doing this sort of thing... seems a bit dodgy but it's obviously a complex issue. Here's an article I dug up that might be of interest: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1460 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmot Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Good ear... how about the other two? In a good edit style they're dropping hints so I say Sunkings - Starbuck Razor's Edge - The Zoo Regarding the legality...although there are obviously some regional differences, generally speaking you can only re-use copyrighted material if it's so heavily modified that the original is barely there. Even that is up to the judges. It's not easy to get that ruling against big players who guard their goods closely. There have been cases where just three-second samples can get you into trouble (and also cases like Skeewiff's One Sample Short of a Lawsuit EP where they eventually hired a studio to re-play the riff so that it's no longer a sample from a legal point of view). Anyway, just playing a vinyl at 33 rpm and pressing the result, possibly with minor modifications, is definitely a no-no. I guess they just use such sources and batch sizes that nobody can be bothered to call it. You can always play a custom edit, though. The royalties will (or won't) be collected as usual. It doesn't matter how you play it - original speed, slowed down, backwards, in three second snippets, whatever. It's just reprinting in any form that definitely requires a permission, or clearing like they call it with samples. To be honest, I find these versions a bit too cheap. It's a neat observation that 33 rpm turns EBM into new beat but why bother pressing it? Just get an original - preferably another one than these - and play it at 33 rpm, FFS... Meanwhile, there are some outright amazing disco re-edits out there, both cleared and bootleg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draeke Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 That's actually PRETTY cool. I mean, they are doing smth completely illegal of course but somehow are using old electronic music and broadcasting it to new generations of vinyl lovers. But they should credit the original versions. Even if they hint at them only us into this scene will realize what is what (eventually and not for sure in all cases) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidetrakkt Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 In the Pacific Norhtwest U.S. (Portland and Seattle) this has been going on for many years - on select occasions, djs would play 45 rmp vinyl at 33 rpm and slow it down. It was (is?) called "Sloa Goa." I don't know the history behind it, but probably A'damn (Goa Constrictor) or someone else who lurks here does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Dolmot, I think you're right about that... here's the originals. Razor's Edge - The Zoo: Sunkings - Starbuck: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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