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I just recently dug out all my old Thunderdome and Industrial Strength CD's. A lot of the Thunderdome releases sound kinda cheesy today, but the ISR releases are still killing it. A lot less commercial sounding than the typical Dutch stuff. I also ventured a little deeper into the underground listening to labels like Deathchant, Rebelscum and Bloody Fist. I love Delta 9, Nasenbluten, Hellfish and The DJ Producer, but my all time favorite Hardcore CD's remain Manu Le Malin's Biomechanik part 1 & 2. Such a unique style of mixing and sound. He really transcended the clichés of Hardcore Techno back in the day.

 

So I'm wondering if anyone knows a good forum where I could gain more knowledge about this genre?

 

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yeah this stuff was VERY popular in these parts in the mid/ late 90s and was pretty much the most widely available "underground" electronic music so most teens who wanted to go against the crowd were into it. OK, looking in retrospective, a whole lot of it was a marketing scam cause like 90% of the tracks weren't nearly as dark and brutal as they were presented (thinking especially of the Thunderdome comps)

 

Still, some stuff were pretty darn good and I still like listening to them from time to time. My absolute fave producers were Neophyte, Stunned Guys and Ruffneck, I wonder if they are still making stuff today...

 

there was a time when I thought that this was the hardest and darkest track ever made and that nothing could ever be better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcF8n1FJs44&feature=player_embedded

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywXiFgi_NY8

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damn it, now i'm stuck in memory lane, strolling to find back my fave tracks:

 

also one of the darkest fastest tunes at the time that made my hands shake with adrenalin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1GQ-p-5Hak&feature=player_embedded

 

 

haha and how could i forget this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfiXprwIrEU

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That was a ton of Dutch stuff I don't care too much about, but cool! I used to listen to Neophyte, Endymion and DJ Nosferatu a lot back in the day. But I remember getting Manu's mixes back in the late 90'es. They really changed my perception of the genre. He really managed to transcend the stagnant and formulaic style of the Dutch scene. Together with Deathchant, Rebelscum, Bloody Fist and ISR. That doesn't mean that I can't appreciate a good synth line or whatever, but I prefer stuff like this:

 

 

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That was a ton of Dutch stuff I don't care too much about, but cool! I used to listen to Neophyte, Endymion and DJ Nosferatu a lot back in the day. But I remember getting Manu's mixes back in the late 90'es. They really changed my perception of the genre. He really managed to transcend the stagnant and formulaic style of the Dutch scene. Together with Deathchant, Rebelscum, Bloody Fist and ISR. That doesn't mean that I can't appreciate a good synth line or whatever, but I prefer stuff like this:

 

 

 

 

hmm daim you're dissing like 99% of the stuff I like :( Well, maybe this is more up your sleeve?

 

 

whatever I do I'm still a sucker for melodies whatever the style lol

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It's not that I can't appreciate a good melody and a lot of the old Thunderdome stuff is fun to listen to. But it is rather stupid and one-dimensional. Like the Nitzhonot of Hardcore.

 

It's a fun, but short lasting fix:

 

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Goa and psy peeps should start checking out Cenobite Records...a mashup of Hardcore, Acid and psychedelic shit. The heydays of this label lay far behind us, yet the label still releases and keeps on focussing on their specific style. I don't care for Manu Le Malin and other industrial stuff, never appreciated that, and luckily the "Nitzhonot" of the Hardcore (i.e. mainstream HC) is way more popular than Nitzhonot in Goa Trance...so finding parties and good artists in this style is easy :)

 

Cenobite style:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YpKydswEts&feature=related

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Oopie, you say that Manu Le Malin has "some class" only to disregard all the stuff he is known for DJ'ing. Then you go on posting a track that isn't even Hardcore. Something tells me that you have no clue what you're talking about...

 

Agneton, Cenobite Records is the essence of bad taste if you ask me. Can't stand Trancecore. But each to their own of course. I guess they deserve to be mentioned as they represent a unique *cough* style.

 

:D

 

2 killer tracks by the guy who invented Hardcore Techno. Marc Acardipane.

 

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IST had its moments. Lenny Dee was a visionary, too bad his own vision got degenrated and drowned by a bunch of misunderstanding quasi-musicians, exposing us to the abominable derivatives of once flourishing hardcore sounds, as we unfortunately had to witness during the nineties.

 

However, to keep things positive, my own pick out of their extensive release roster must be Zenith's epochal Flowers Of Intelligence and his dreamy hardcore trancer A Tear In Heart, as well as Manu Le Malin's "Memory EP" (perhaps the label's high point?), along with one of two Koenig Cylinders vinyls (does anyone spot that's where John Selway's career kicked off way before he took the techno world by surprise with his studio partner Christian Smith?)

 

The Mescalinum United We Have Arrived tune is one of the finest pieces in my collection. Both the original and the AFX reworks are foundation stones for the whole hardcore-hard techno-industrial techno sound which would later further fully develop.... What a crazy, wip ass monster tune! God, I haven't played it in ages :o

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Oopie, you say that Manu Le Malin has "some class" only to disregard all the stuff he is known for DJ'ing. Then you go on posting a track that isn't even Hardcore. Something tells me that you have no clue what you're talking about...

 

This 'Biomechanik' sounds quite nice, avoids the sillyness and superficial approach a lot of hardcore I've heard is like. Yes I know Chris McCormack isn't hardcore but it was somewhat similar to Biomechanik in its mood; something in my brain connected these two and that made me post the link.

Yes yes, you're right... I don't know hardcore, happy hardcore, jumpstyle or the tracklist of tiesto's latest mix. But there's a reason for that.

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IST had its moments. Lenny Dee was a visionary, too bad his own vision got degenrated and drowned by a bunch of misunderstanding quasi-musicians, exposing us to the abominable derivatives of once flourishing hardcore sounds, as we unfortunately had to witness during the nineties.

 

However, to keep things positive, my own pick out of their extensive release roster must be Zenith's epochal Flowers Of Intelligence and his dreamy hardcore trancer A Tear In Heart, as well as Manu Le Malin's "Memory EP" (perhaps the label's high point?), along with one of two Koenig Cylinders vinyls (does anyone spot that's where John Selway's career kicked off way before he took the techno world by surprise with his studio partner Christian Smith?)

 

The Mescalinum United We Have Arrived tune is one of the finest pieces in my collection. Both the original and the AFX reworks are foundation stones for the whole hardcore-hard techno-industrial techno sound which would later further fully develop.... What a crazy, wip ass monster tune! God, I haven't played it in ages :o

 

 

woah man thanks for reminding me that great track, haven't listened to it in a loooong time! That's the problem when you get old: you forget what great tunes you have in your collection lol

 

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When I think of hardcore techno, I think of stuff like this http://soundcloud.co...assen-four-tech

or this http://soundcloud.co...maassen-bounded

Most of the stuff posted so far sounds old-fashened to me or at least dated.

 

That's the point of this thread. The good ol' "when hardcore was cool" rant.

 

The old IST records sound like that because they are old, and like a lot of electronic music, remain confined within a certain time frame, attitude and vision of the party scene (a lot of large, dragon like decorations at parties, skulls, and other stuff reminiscent more of the metal scene than the rave mentality) and tickle certain emotions and memories in the hearts of a lot of the older ones.

 

Same thing will happen with mr. Maassen's music, in a while, which by the way isn't hard techno.

 

Hard techno would be:

 

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxX2Oa8DtEc

 

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC2d3wpnv9I

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