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Subject to change at any moment
As it stands:
U-Recken&Digicult - Into the Heartland (orignal when I'm in the full-on mood or Astral Projection remix when I'm in the goa mood)
Hypnoxock- Futurexock
Electric Universe - The Prayer
(!) Psy-H Project - Precession of the Universe (!) (THE best goa track EVER) (or Sonic Elysium remix when I'm in the full-on mood)
Centavra Project - Shambala
Spirit Architect - Reshaping Reality
Astral Projection - Liquid Sun
Hyperception - Shaking
Chromosome - Reality Engineer (original! not Vimana remix)
Andromeda - The Dreamer
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I just found Innerscape on yotube and I think it's quite nice, i like such smooth melodies and cosmic synths. Can't say it's an outstanding track, the melodies are somehow linear and predictable, but a still a nice example of my preferred kind of goa.
I understand from the reviews I shouldn't bother listening to other tracks," chaotic, agressive, pure scorched earth monster" etc are typically bad qualities in my book.
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On 8/10/2019 at 4:56 PM, astralprojection said:
one of his absolute finest works! up there with filter traces, easily. and i love how underrated it is
i remember many shunning it when it came out. .. :p guess its too "trancy" and "cheesy" for some , but i adore those type of cheesy key changes if done in a sofisticated way.
well done mr. filteria. i imagine i would go nuts over this track back in my e days of the early 00s
What an amazing track! I'm not a fan of Filteria, his other tracks I've heard sound too chaotic and harsh to me, but this one is very different. Really good melodies.
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Awesome track, Imba!
More Alternative Control
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6 hours ago, Shpongled247 said:
I too love a sunrise set of some melodic full on.. early protoculture style is just perfect for that time imo.
No idea really why its not as prevalent nowdays. U Recken and those guys are still making music though his later stuff hasnt grabbed me as much.
Hopefully someone here knows some nice new stuff for us!
U recken is mostly making prog now. Not bad and quite melodic at times, but indeed not really as exciting as his older stuff. Other people who were making this kind of fullon are either silent now or make some different music.
Digicult recently uploaded a track to youtube, no idea if he is going to release it officially but it's awesome
but I think that's an old track actually.
Neuroplasm's The Art of Melting Time and E-Mov's Stellar Loom have some nice melodic bits that remind me of that old full-on, not really a melodic storm like old Protoculture or U-Recen but some decent melodic parts here and there.
Also some elements of that melodic/morning full-on may be occasionally found in some random tracks every now and then, but I can't think of any artist/label who would consistently release music in that style now.
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The Silicon Sound thread reminded me on this, It was the subgenre that has actually hooked me and made me a psytrance fan. But it seems to have died out by now. I mean, 144-146 bpm, trancy melodies, smooth and soft morning sound. Often borderline cheesy (well, sometimes not even borderline), not really psychedelic but still very enjoyable.
Any ideas why music like this is not made anymore?
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I wonder what you guys may suggest for tracks/albums/artists that might be inspired by Pure Analog or have some similarities. Melodic full-on with smooth and deep, somehow mysterious sound?
To me Hyperion's Drop Psychosis album has some quite obvious similarities
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Remixed/remastered version (new link in the OP)
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One of my favourite newschool artists, he has very recognizable sound and actually good melodies. I think of his music as a logical evoultion of goa trance sound, rather than "let's try to rip off a 96 track but add 10 acid layers on top because we can".
Whenever I feel like listening to some modern goa Mental Triplex-Presence is usually among my very first picks.
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Euphorya is nice but it seems that they try to sound like Digicult but don't quite manage to nail it.
This is a Dream has a melody which sounds like a rip-off of another track
Around 4:25.
Anyway I agree that morning full-on with smooth sound and good melodies is now really hard to find. These tracks caught my attention recently as something that could be called an evoltion of classic SS/Protoculture sound of sorts (the second one the bpm is too slow though, perhaps more like old Liquid Soul stuff).
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2 hours ago, astralprojection said:
not terrible
Because you don't understand Russian
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20 hours ago, Psychedelic Superbeast said:
Do you know the russian band dolphin(Дельфин)?
Sure
I know he also was making some more serious stuff but I never really cared about it.
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On 6/30/2019 at 11:56 PM, Anoebis said:
Actually, if you are guys are really so interested in this... The first new school goa track is the first goa-trance track completely made with pc! No external synths used. Any idea what that track would be? :p
Psylent Buddhi?
This is taken from Discogs: "1997 - 2003 is, as the album title suggests, a collection of tracks created between 1997 and 2003. ....Apart from Retrocede, Metalucid and Winter Tickle, the tracks were produced using an eclectic combination of Impulse Tracker, Rebirth, Dreamstation and Acid".
https://www.discogs.com/ru/Psylent-Buddhi-1997-2003/release/1512212
For what I know, Rebirth and Dreamstation were some of the first software capable of making synth sounds, Acid was a mixing software and Impulse Tracker was, well ... a tracker. So apparently no external gear whatsoever.
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On 6/29/2019 at 2:03 AM, Psychedelic Superbeast said:
first Newschool track:
Well, that sounds horrible like most 80s synth-pop stuff, especially made in ex-USSR. But some of Alliance's later songs were actually great, my father had a vinyl, i think it was Sdelano v Belom (Made In White) which I liked a lot when I was about 11 y.o. Today it sounds very naive but it still has some hypnotic and mysterious qualities similar to what I'm looking for in psychill music
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Nexus 6 and Pure Reality are timeless.
I think Pure Analog and Protoculture's Refractions basically defined the sound of morning/melodic fullon for the whole decade.
My favourite take on remixing Nexus 6
and Pure Reality
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It was a great collab! Can happily recommend AP to anyone who is looking for good mastering:)
Uptaded the link in the OP with better playback quality.
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Morning proggy stuff. Mastering by Kristian W (you may know him as Astralprojection here)
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18 minutes ago, Padmapani said:
it's supposedly my native language, yet i don't understand a single word of what the guy is saying.
I think it's German though
"Freitag, Samstag fick' ich meinen Kopf
Feier' ich 'nen Zopf, mach' mir keinen Kopf"At least I know what Kopf, Freitag, ficken and some other words mean in German
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Cool song, ugly girl (the other girl, the blonde one, is sort of sexy though... or is it the same girl?), have no idea what it has to do with psytrance. Did anyone patent triplets?
Yes, the song is cool. Almost everything sung in German is cool
If you ask for worse examples, proper cultural appropriation between pop and psytrance may sound like that
or that
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3 hours ago, thanosp81 said:
But with software...there are no limits. And that, ironically, is the limiting factor to inspiration.
That's some really good points, especially the quoted bit.
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2 hours ago, astralprojection said:
but id like to steer back to production style, because new school goa seems to have much more focus in mixing/technical side. More "perfect" like kicks, basslines, hihats, etc. Everything is precisely engineered to absolute perfection (to the best of the artists ability anyway)
Actually newschool goa (not all of it, but some part) sounds to me the least "produced" subgenre in the whole psy scene. Typical psytrance mixes (full-on, proggy, hi-tech, whatever) are very clean and polished, basslines are super-tight - otherwise no label will release it. Goa mixes often sound much less polished and often are quite raw. Loud kick and brutal compression on the master bus doesn't necessarily mean good production
. TBH there are some goa artists, including some known and respected ones, whose stuff I just can't listen to because i can't stand their mixing and mastering style.
It's a common misconception that production is cheap these days. Unless you have an acoustically treated studio room and expensive speakers, which not everyone can afford, you would have a hard time meeting the current psytrance production standards. Goa as a whole seems more underground, I know some goa producers are mixing their stuff in their living rooms, with little or no acoustic treatment, with cheap speakers or even just headphones, some even make music on their smartphones and such and release it.
There are artists who deliver excellent mixing and mastering like Ra, latest Mindsphere, Artifact303, some others. On the other hand, old AP albums released in 95-97 sound extremely well produced even today, much better than some of the new releases actually.
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The tracks that define newschool goa for me
I think they all have the same set of qualities - strong basslines, dense arrangements with lots of layers, many high-pitched sounds, quite melodic (in a good way).
There is something to be said about "melodic". Goa, especially newschool, is often said to be melodic genre with which I don't quite agree because for me "containing many notes" doesn't equal "melodic", quite a big parts of new goa sounds way too chaotic or disharmonic to me to be actually called melodic. The above tracks have melodies that actually make some sense, at least to me.
Btw, as far as Ethereal go, according to Discogs, their first release was in 1999. To me it actually has some of "newschool" traits, despite somehow softer sound
That Radiator track is 2003.
So, do we have the first newschool goa track/act here?
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7 minutes ago, Psychedelic Superbeast said:
This cheesy fullon wave in the 2000s
I think some portion of it wasn't actually bad and some portion of that portion was even very good. I might be the only person on this planet who thinks so, though.
8 minutes ago, Psychedelic Superbeast said:You simply could not buy the equipment/PC in the 90s russia..
At that time I had some cheap Yamaha keyboard with an auto-chord mode or whatever it was called, my friends envied me
Finally I actually learned to play it, but of course it wasn't very suitable for making any kind of electronic music, it only had basic rompler sounds. I didn't care though, I was more into metal and such.
There were some trance acts in Russia though, I remember PPK and later Sensorica, they weren't goa, more Van Dyk kind of trance, but their production was really good.
12 minutes ago, Psychedelic Superbeast said:sorry for mei Englisch.
Забей, нормально. У меня не лучше
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2 hours ago, Psychedelic Superbeast said:
is this a next level version of Goa trance? An enhanced and futuristic Trance?
I wish it was
I actually think that todays goa is sort of natural evolution of the 90's goa. There probably were two important factors:
- Transition form hardware to software which meant more synths, more layers, more processing, more energy, more everything, but on the other hand - no hands-on control, painting notes and drawing automation lanes instead of twisting knobs and playing keys/programming sequencers. I wonder how many of the newschool producers can actually play keyboard or any other musical instrument.
- More experimental/open-minded forms of goa evolved into psytrance and the core sound of the new goa wave was apparently shaped by the people who wanted to return strictly to "that AP/Etnica/Pleiadians sound of the 90's". This is only a speculation, but that's actually the feeling I'm getting from some of the reivews here - whenever a track deviates from a basic goa fromula (a 303, a booming kick, a fast-paced melody in Phrygian or Eastern scale) there always will be someone saying "it's not goa".
That SynSun track is rad
favorite track from your (current) top 10
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Yes, Postcard from Goa is great, these subtle flute-ish bits in the beginning sometimes play in my head out of nowhere. Overall, one of the rare modern goa tracks that focus on melody and stortelling rather than acid, layers, more acid and more layers. Doesn't make it into my top 10 but a memorable track anyway, it's always in my goa playlist.
I remember the threads like "Psynews is dying" 3 years ago or more