Ov3rdos3
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i have no doubt that the last shpongle album will be nothing short of fantastic. there other albums were of an incredibly high quality and simon posford is no amature either. i dont mind that its gonna be their last album, coz i know for sure it wont be posfords last album, he'll bring out something even better im sure. a 3rd hallucinogen album? we can only hope.
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well put. chemical crew have no soul.
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dude, look at the facts...
hardhouse, hard trance, funky house, house etc. all follow a perticular pattern that applies to them all, they are consistant and fairly predictable. psytrance (a lot of it) doesnt always follow a consistant melodic pattern, and a lot of it is fairly unpredictable. you need to have actually listened to the tune before if you plan to beat mix it in. i have been djing for about 6 years now and been thru the hardhouse hard trance scene. your mate will give u a vinyl and ask you to mix it in. p1ss simple because it all follows the same structure. this is completely different with psytrance. you try beatmixing the intro of a psytrance (which usually has no beats)tune into the end of another tune. not too easy.most festivals ive been to the mixing of the songs are seamless. you dont hear it come in, which is GOOD MIXING!!! if you dont notice it, its a good mix. the dj isnt supposed to go all psycho on the decks and bringing in arb sounds and peiced of other tunes or start scratching as that would stick out, and in turn pull you out of your "trance" that you were there to experience in the first place. in my opinion, any idiot can mix a hardhouse set or a hardtrance set. its stupidly simple and easy. to create a 3 hour journey of psychdelic bliss without any transition noticable at all. that my friend takes skill.
"Most of them I've heard can barely hold a beatmatched mix cleanly for more than 32 beats, have little idea of EQing"
dude, you have been to some sh1t parties then. have you even seen what the EQ setup looks like at a large event compared to a hardhouse party? you need to bloody have a degree in nuclear physics to pull of the equalizing perfection some of these djs do. go and see Silicon Sound, or Hallucinogen, or Infected and watch them mix. then tell me it requires more skill to mix hardhouse or techno. i dont think so mate.
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hehhe, while were on the topic of brain damage beats...
savage: Neuromotor - f*ck dat mafia trance xp
Mass genocide: manduya - ketamine (rmx)
sodomised with a chainsaw: eskimo - let it all out (155bpm!)
force-fed-broken-glass-and-stabbed-in-the-throat: Neuromotor - the brain forest
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for me that is a big difference between retro goa and morning fullon of today... retro goa often doesn't sounds great in the beginning... but while listening to it you learn to appreciate it...
present fullon is always more like when you hear it the firs time 'wooow this is a killer' but after a while it get's weaker and boring...
retro goa is for eternity...
profound and true.
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i disagree completely. firstly house/club/shit music is mixed using 2 turntables and a mixer. psytrance "performers" use much more. and they dont use gimmicky turntable trickery like hardhouse djs would because it doesnt sound right doing that with psytrance. the mixing style is completly different, but mixing psy requires 10x more skill than mixing hardhouse or hard trance or something like that. for instance, even when phil reynolds or lisa lashes or whoever mix their tune in, you can hear when she is brining the new tune in. with psytrance dj's, YOU DO NOT NOTICE THE TRANSITION. that is f**king difficult and that is what a good mix is. psytrance djs are in a whole differnent league to hardhouse djs's. get your facts straight mate.
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i actually did buy this album. Boost is an excellent tune, because it has a very nice melody, expecially towards the end. but honestly, thats like the only decent tune. most of the songs are pretty flat. except for the first song, i dont really like the cd that much. too much of the same old same old.
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I HATE INFECTED MUSHROOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SELL-OUT BASTARDS!!!!!
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this is obviously a personal taste, but i would say that IFO is better than twisted or deranger. sorry, but i guess its just personal preference.
btw sphongled, you have the coolest avatar ive seen.
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KAK (afrikaans) = sh1t, crap, excrement, faeces. the result of a bowel movement.
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adding to the last topic, listed under the just plain evil category, this track must be heard towards the end especially. I have no rational explanation as to why this track deems evil to me, but I'd like to share an incident that formulated as a result of hearing it. I was blasting it one time on the headphones one night watching television, though not watching..eyes were just fixated on it absorbing radiation...full devoted attention to the track...about halfway through it a voice comes about and says assertively -"The expansion of the universe spreads everything out...but gravity tries to pull it all back together again..our destiny, depends on whitch force will win." while hearing this my attention suddenly sifted to activity on the tv (no idea what was on), some thorish character was fleeing desperatly into a field with a chain linked to him...right as the voice said "pull" the character was being yanked back in a snap by some womanly figure within the thunderstorms.This all shocked me very much, I also kept in mind the album title, Coincidentalism, which made the incident even more strange. I dont have any answers for this, nor expect anyone to relate with it. this simply may be the result of brain deterioration ands bizarre perception changes
faaark dude, sometime i also beleive that things go beyond the point of coincidence.. thats pretty hectic, i can see how that would stress you out.
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it was actaully a very funny story, one of my close friends Clive, was the person who threw the pie in his face. we even waited with the camera and took a photo as the pie hit his face,hahahaha!!!! stupid tjoshi, he was quite pissed off though.
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Ambient: Shpongle - ...and the day turned into night
Morning: Silicon sound - Shodan
Full-on: Psychotic Mirco - Frankenstein
Other: Infected Mushroom - Dancing with Kadadi
Just plain evil: Eskimo - Let it all out
ill post my progressive and goa tunes later.
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OK, guys we have heaps of excellent albums now thanks to you all. but i want you all to rack your brains and give (per catagory) what you rate to be the best psy tune ever. now this is very vague and proably stupid. but lets do it anyways.
ONE NAME PER CATAGORY ONLY GUYS!!!!! NOT 500 LIKE SOME OF YOU POST!!! this will make it really challenging.
the catagories are (and feel free to add other catagorys so long as its trance)
Ambient:
Goa:
Morning:
Full-on:
Progressive:
Other:
Just plain evil:
cheers guys!
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kinda hard to beatmix if there aint no beats. most ambient psytrane djs, dont beatmix. as for best technique dj, i would also have to say Mr Suzuki is one of the best, although his music is what we would refer to in South Africa as "KAK".
no mr suzuki, that is not a compliment.
now please guys dont flame me, but i was watching Skazi mix in CapeTown one lovely satuday evening and the way he mixes is really, really good. he's all over the place, tweaking and going mad. he has a very good style of mixing, he totally gets into it. pity about the music though. i used to love skazi but the whole full on thing just doesnt do it for me anymore. it just doesnt have enough depth for me. its not psychedelic enough.
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I have both Zodiac and Made in Trance. Zodiac is utter sh1te. but Made in Trance is actually pretty good. i find myself listening to it quite a bit. especially the last tune, The Messanger. very, very good.
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yeah, timecode rocks, i been to many parties of theirs in cape town back when i was still living there. very very good psytrance label.
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Dragonfly records!!! I though beaches and cream was an awesome cd, very high quality psy in my opinion.
im gonna get flamed for this....but i enjoy a lot of the stuff that comes out on SPUN records, not the latest stuff though, its crap. but some of the older stuff was pretty good in my opinion.
and of course CHEMICAL-CREW!!!, hehe, just kidding guys.
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whats a "raave party"?
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i would say a few albums that have gotten better everytime i listen to it are...
Infected Mushroom - Classical / BP Empire
Shpongle - (both albums)
Hallucinogen - Twisted, Deranger and In Dub
anything really chilled out really doesnt date as quickly as say for instance Skazi or something like that. i could listen to those albums all day long. but as mentioned above, sometimes im in the mood for chilling out, and sometimes im in the mood for "F**k you C**t!!!" Trance, like neuromotor or PPS project or Eksimo or something.something fast and evil. "brainfry beats".,hehe, thats not a bad name for a psytrance record label actually, hehe....
how to start a full on gig
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a really good long scary intro to start a full on set...hmmm..
how about: "Snug as a Bug - Tuned". i heard them start their set off with that tune and it set a pretty freaky vibe. good tune.