Lepton
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LABELS!!!
There are hundreds of new school Goa artists out there and thousands of listeners.
There are hundreds of new artists that produce very interesting Psy (not just Goa) and thousands of listeners that like this music.
So, where are they?
You can find them because none label would release their music (there are always exceptions).
Even the old artists like Pleiadians would release a nice album if they didn't care for the sales. (Professional artists live from their music-their job and wouldn't dare to release an album not commercial, in the fear that none label would want to release their music again- Chi-A.D. anyone?)
This is the only problem with Psy Trance today:
LABELS CARE FOR THE MONEY AND NOT FOR THE MUSIC.
I think you are wrong ... it is a commen fact that artists/labels don't earn shit by releasing music ... They release music as promotion to get booked on parties and festivals that's where the real money is ...
and that's where things go wrong, ... because maybe you have noticed that in the end it is full on music that keeps most ppl moving because it is so easy to dance too
blame the dancers
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they also released one track on the fabula compilation
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/fab/fab1cd002.html
check out their website for LOTS of good FREE suomi
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I don't think you got it ...Okay man, but do you know any other shop in austria/germany from which i can get cds cheap and wiith cheap paying after delivery, on psyshop they want e6.50 for that, not very cheap, on the other hand i can get the cd for 10 dollars from twisted website but i don´t know if they offer that featuere, i hope, if there isn´t any other possibility i will buy from psyshop for 23 € per cd.
this extra fee that you say is 6.5 will be added on the total sum ...
so if you buy 10 cd's for 12 euro vat included that you have to pay
10*12 : 120 euro
+ shipping costs (wich will be very cheap since you already live in germany)
+ 6.5
unless the shipping and cd's from wirikuta or beatspace are cheaper I doubt you will get a better price somewhere else ...
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i think yr problem is cause my example was affect derango (i know u like them)...
sorry but i don't care for that..it's just MY opinion. if u want to be fair go to This
thread and show the same sensitivity when ga2pir and radi6404 call's california sunshine "eurotrance or regular trance or some discopop" that's why i beleive u have problem for my example and nothing more nothing less.
now can we stay On topic?
I know you're not going to reply cuz you will stay on topic but you're clearly not listening ..
I never understood why ppl use the term random to express their taste since something random can not be music imo and indicates that one didn't understand what he was listening too ... + taste is objective patterns are not
maybe my definition of muisic is wrong or my english is not good enough ...
All I'm trying to find out is why ppl use that term ...wether it be for venetian snares, derango, emuna or whoever ...
I still don't know btw
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ok but I still have to conclude that you probably didn't uderstand the music cuz there is nothing random about their music or music I know off ...
once again maybe my english is not good enough, I'm talking about random : no pattern wich is something that is not objective ...
Sometimes I need to listen to a track more that once before I get it, that's when the pattern reveals itself and everything comes together. This doesn't mean that because of that I will like the track ... that's where taste comes in ...
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Rezwalker is right. He only has only tried to express and define there his view concerning this kind of music. He's perfectly free to describe it as he wants. What's wrong with that? Respect his judgement, even if you don't like someone to say bad comments about your favorite music.
I never ever heard "random music" how can something that's random be music ?
Maybe my English is not good enough or he did not express himself right that's all I'm trying to find out... It has nothing to do with someone saying bad about music I like ...
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sorry but your example is not a matter of taste if you say that this is random than you clearly didn't understand the music or you have chosen the wrong words to express yourself ...
I have friends who also don't like their music ... they dislike every aspect i like ... that's what I call having a different taste ... they understand the music but don't like it ... too many layers not melodic enough, no intro - climax- outro trackstucture etc ...
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there is no psy that I don't get ...
but there is a lot of psy that I don't like
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I always thought that OOOD stood for triple o.d ...
nice cover btw....
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Do you also have names for chavs ? In Belgium they are called Johnnies and Marina's
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sorry but I didn't like it at all, the first one was way better ...
for suomi 2006 :
v.a. : no possible sound
salakavala : fractal fishing
eraser vs yöjalka : lords of the liverdance ....
like peyote's recomanded :
va musica discordia
va no possible sounds
are the best picks
or you can wait for the upcoming sienis album it should come out this year
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I have shitloads of cd's that I have listened to only once or maybe 2 times while working ....
va psionic circus
va hasta las patillas
va wellspring equinocturnis
va hadracadabra
va arc de thriumph
vegetal : free thinkers are dangerous
claw vs paranoize : deadly alliance
furios : not for fame
mantrix : iniversal
filteria : sky input
ka sol ....
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the list is way longer ...
but I m gonna stop buying cd's without prelistening first it's gonna save me a lot of money that's for sure ....
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Perhaps the album wasn't released because so many of the tracks were on va's?
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perhaps it's bootleg: someone got hold of unrlsd tracks and was planning to release the album without artist's permission?
Lepton you probably know what I'm talking about when I say you can easily spot a HF track when you hear one.
the tracks on 'singles collection' are so good and so similar to other HF material that I quite doubt they're fake.
and indeed there's a fake album floating around the net, called "reboot" or something , I can't remember. This isn't it.
Hope my ansa makes more sense now
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it does
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Call me stupid but you're explanation doesn't make sense to me :
Why would they release tracks that are already released on compilations? And this 1 year before their upcoming album (division by zero).
I know that there is a fake hux flux album that's why I'm so suspicious ...
Don't get me wrong I really hope that it's not fake we need more oldschool hux flux style ...
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do you know where I can buy that cd, I collect hux flux tracks you see ....
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are you sure it are all hux flux tracks cuz I have never heard of the last 3 that are mentioned ....
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if you like uberpsychedelic non formulated music check out some suomi stuff :
psyshop-saikosounds-exogenic website
texas faggott : petoman's peflet (exogenic)
eraser vs yöjalka : round 1 (exogenic)
haltya : forest flavour (exogenic)
mandalavandalz : honkong nightlife (karelia)
v.a. : schizm (gi'iwa)
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with clean I mean the plastic >< not organic nor mechanic sound = > a sound without personality wich leaves no room for imagination imo ...
it's just a matter of taste ... I don't deny their skills ...
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it's way to clean ....
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the term buttrock goa is one of the biggest mistakes I've noticed on ishkur's guide to electronic music ...
too bad the guy is too full of himself to accept mistakes ...
are you serious with the question?
There is only one problem with Psy-Trance today
in General Psytrance
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you are right in one way ... some labels are into it for the money ...
but don't think it's only the labels fault .... I think the dancers as much responsible than the labels ...
or maybe it's just because the scene is getting bigger ....
for me, musically there are a lot of things i would like to change ... but bitching about it on a forum (don't take this personal) won't solve anything ....
And I think we are still part of a DIY scene wich I think is a very good thing ...
So be the change you want to see ....