Trolsk
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I heard from someone i talked to working with shiva shidapu back in the day that duvdev had actually prevented erez from playing sets with DJ Jörg and told him to focus on their new album (which then was Converting Vegetarians).
So, good luck trying to pry Erez away from that duo..
Understandable as Duvdev has everything to lose and Erez everything to win.
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It says Post-production, meaning it isn't finished
Maybe it's on cannes next year? Either way, never heard of it nor the directorA lot of movies get shown at Cannes even though they're in post-production, and several movies get re-cut after they've been shown at Cannes.
Oh, and the movie might not have been part of the Cannes competition...
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I just stumbled over this at Twisted's Younger Brother page:
"Meanwhile Benji and Simon are working with Philip Ridley on the soundtrack for a film called Heartless, which is set to be one of the UKs biggest movies for 2009 which premiered at Cannes in May 09."
I watch a lot of movie's, but I'm not familiar with Philip Ridley and I can't recall that his movie did get any special attention in the Cannes 09 reports I've read.
Any rumors or comments about this movie or his previous work?
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I deeply agree with Hitler on this matter. Deeply.
Also, with the Eurovision remark.
Classical Mushroom is a musical masterpiece, in and out of the psy/goa scene.
The entire point of this topic is that we want another Classical Mushroom album, not more crap.
For every new album they release it's a new big step away from a new Classical Mushroom album, and the current progression of their music points towards the Eurovision Song Contest, sadly.
Simon Posford should start a new collaboration with Erez and save him from Duvdev. Then Posford and Erez could create amazing music together, and Raja Ram and Duvdev could create their own electronic rock band. It's a win-win-situation for everybody.
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It is only a matter of time before IM decide to enter the Eurovision Song Contest, it's the next logical degradation of their music...
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But these are also good, swedish shop called DotShop
DotShop has some good stuff, too bad their closing down...
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Old school fun
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I doubt they'd make an album for those reasons. You can't force people to do things like that over the internet with a few haphazard comments!
Really how old are you? Can you really be so dumb/naive/troll?
Facebook is full of stupid people doing stupid things if X people join this or that group, so people can actually be "forced" to do things because of a few haphazard comments.
Let's just hope that the GNOTR guys aren't stupid, I wouldn't want another full on album by an old school act...
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Now that I've listened to this release a couple of times I must say that I'm disappointed.
Mr S, Kamni and Piter 26 are good tracks because of their subtle melodic parts, but the rest of the tracks are forgettable darkpsy.
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Been a big fan of Trance for a good few years but was getting tired of the same old sounds over and over and was on the look out for something very different. Stumbled onto Solar Fields by chance a couple of days ago and have been listening to various tracks of theirs on-line and have been mighty impressed. Also been listening to tracks by Asura, H.U.V.A Network & Aes Dana and Im getting really excited about acquiring some new deep thought provoking music to usher in a new chapter in my life.
There are so many excellent releases in this genre.
We recently compiled our Top 10 Psytrance albums, of all time. That topic might be useful to you, but keep in mind that most people on this particular forum enjoy the stuff pre 2000. Most of the stuff in our top tens can no longer be purchased.
Here are some releases from the last six or so years that I find to be of high quality:
12 Moons - Solid State
Atmos - 2nd Brigade
Filteria - Sky Input
Freq - Strange Attractors
Son Kite - Colours
Haltya - Electric Help Elves
Human Blue - Electrolux
Talpa - The Art of Being Non
The Misted Muppet - From The Legend
CPC - Uber Den Angst
Derango - Tumult
Jaia - Fiction
Magnetrixx - Wired
Midi Miliz - Non Standards
Nystagmus - The Immaculate Perception
Ocelot - VectorSelector
Psykovsky - Debut
Filteria - Heliopolis
Triac - Mean Between
Vibrasphere - Archipelago
Zolod - Deja Vu Fabrique
Parahalu - Space Rock
Transwave - Backfire
Abakus - That Much Closer To The Sun
Adham Shaikh - Fusion
Bluetech - Elementary Particles
Evan Marc & Steve Hillage - Dreamtime Submersible
Hallucinogen - In Dub
Phutureprimitive - Subconscious
Pitch Black - Electronomicon
Shpongle- Are You Shpongled
Shpongle - Tales of the Inexpressible
If you manage to get through the above list you will find that psytrance is a very diverse genre, ranging from the utterly mad and intense to the mellow and laidback. Sometimes there are beautiful melodies, other times the melodies are more subtle and sometimes there are no melodies at all.
Try some of the above releases and tell us what you like and we can give you more specific recommendations.
If you visit Psyshop or Saiko Sounds you can preview and purchase some of the releases.
You can also visit Discogs to get an idea of labels, artist connections, previous releases etc.
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I want to like Tim Healey, but he's not really my cup of tea, too club oriented, but I think I would love his stuff live. Feeling a but ambivalent.
Here's another track of his that has gotten a lot of recognition, it's a Pete Martin (aka Slide) and Tim Healey collaboration:
It's a great anthem, if you like that kind of stuff.
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Wisp is indeed an excellent and very interesting artist.
His best albums are NRTHNDR and Honor Beats.
This is a great track from the Honor beats album:
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As for the reasons why the quality was better in the earlier times, I second the reasons Trolsk stated. Nowadays just about everybody can become a producer ... and while this is actually a cool thing, it's also part of the problem. The market is flooded with thousands of average tracks. And it has become easier to release the stuff aswell.
It's sort of a "democratization" of music making.
If close to anyone can become an artist the absolute amount of above average releases should increase because of the normal distribution of talent. The previous distribution curve of talent was biased towards high amounts of talent because of the need to invest in equipment etc (see my original post). When the threshold to make music is lowered the distribution curve of talent will get the shape of a typical normal distribution curve since talent is normal distributed. It means that the amount of good and bad releases should equal each other. Our experience is however that the amount of average and below averages releases has increased whereas the growth of above average releases has declined.
My theory is that psytrance is (more or less) dead and therefor the above average talents in general do not make psytrance. If you were to look at electronic music as a whole then you will find that the absolute amount of above average releases have increased. If you look at a particular genre of electronic music - like minimal techno - you will find that the amount of above average releases is higher than the amount of below average releases because this is the most inspiring sound at the moment, and that's where the talent is at the moment. The same could be said about IDM a few years back, and about psytrance pre 2000.
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2005 was a fantastic year for psy. despite my seemingly negative rant alot of my favorite albums were released that year.
I'm afraid that 2005 was the last good year of psychedelic trance, but I hope that 2010 will prove me wrong. :-)
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Compiling the definitive top ten really is impossible, because there are so many excellent albums, but I guess my list would look something like this:
1. Pleiadians - IFO
2. Hallucinogen - The Lone Deranger
3. Koxbox - Dragon Tales
4. X-dream - Radio
5. Ubar Tmar - Fusion
6. Process - One drop or two?
7. Dimension 5 - Transdimensional
8. The Delta - Send In Send Back
9. Blue Planet Corporation - Blue Planet
10. Psykovsky - Debut
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My thoughts:
1. Pre 2000 most artists used analog synths, now they use computer software and maybe a digital synth. You can't get the juno-106, tb-303 or sh-101 sound correctly emulated with digital software. The end product will be clean, precise and digital, as opposed to dirty, some what random and analog.
2. Since artists pre 2000 relied on physical hardware they had to spend a lot of money to be able to make music, so people that got into making music probably already knew they had some talent and were therefor prepared to spend money on equipment. Today you can be an "artist" if you own a decent computer.
3. To release an album back in the days must have been more expensive then it is today, I'm thinking that costs for mastering and manufacturing of cd's and lp's were higher. So labels had to release high quality music to cover their expenses. Today you can be an online label and release digitally created music, with no mastering and no manufacturing costs.
4. Pre 2000 the idea of what the psytrance sound is wasn't as clear as it is today. When artists today try to make psytrance they already have a clear vision: "I want to make music like Astral Projection". Back in the days I think (kind of nostalgic) that the aim was to make trippy music. Fewer rules tend to favor creativity.
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There used to be a lot of electronic music on Spotify a few months back, but almost all of it was removed, but it seems they add some electronic music now and then.
When I first signed up you could actually listen to that fake Hallucinogen album found on some p2p-networks, Astonis-something-or-whatever. So I guess they just downloaded as much as they could from the p2p-networks instead of ripping a billion out of print cd's. Some labels and distributors probably didn't like to find unreleased and fake albums on Spotify.
I use Spotify at work. It's ok, but it lacks features, and electronic music.
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You should all look for two EP's by Genecom:
It's not obscure, it's not goa/psy, but it's something you're almost guaranted to love: uplifting melodic high energy trance.
The tracks Silicon Dreams, Polyphonic Raid and Sunchase are the standout tracks.
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This is exciting news!
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I like your idea for this thread Abasio, I think of my music the same way
Psychedelic recommendations:
Abakus - That Much Closer To The Sun
Blue Planet Corporation - Blue Planet - Flying Rhino - 1999
Children of Paradise - Urban Alien - Velvet Inc - 1999
Dimension 5 - Transdimensional - Intastella - 1997
Green House Effect - Global Warming - HOM-Mega - 2001 (my number 1 psychedelic summer album)
Jaia - Fiction - Digital Structures - 2005
Magnetrixx - Wired - AP - 2005
Process - One Drop or Two - Creamcrop - 2000 (summer nights)
Saafi Brothers - Mystic Cigarettes
Shpongle - Tales of the Inexpressible - Twisted - 2001
Total Eclipse - All of their single tracks released 1995-1997
V.A. - 3rd Flight Slipstream - Flying Rhino - 1998 (summer nights)
V.A. - 4th Flight Velocity - Flying Rhino - 1999 (summer nights)
V.A. - Beyond Colour - TIP - 1998 (summer nights)
V.A. - Dementertainment - Twisted - 1998
V.A. - Made on Earth - 2CD - Blue Room Released - 1997
V.A. - Pulse 6 CD 1 (summer nights)
V.A. - Sunrise - Medium - 2002
V.A. - TIP's Yellow, Orange and Blue compilations
V.A. - Unusual Suspects - Twisted - 2002
V.A. - Vibration 2 - Com.Pact - 2000
V.A. - Vibration 3 - Medium - 2000
Vibrasphere - Archipelago - Digital Structures - 2006
X-Dream - Radio - Blue Room - 1998
Other recommendations:
Aril Brikha - Ex Machina - Soundscape - 2007
Beanfield - Seek - Compost - 2004
Bob Marley & The Wailers - Exodus - Island - 1977
Fila Brazillia - A Touch of Cloth - 2001
Jan Johansson - Jazz på svenska och Jazz på ryska
Koop - Koop Islands - Compost - 2006
Phoenix - United
SCSI-9 - The Line Of Nine - Kompakt - 2006
Stan Getz & João Gilberto - Getz / Gilberto (my number 1 other summer album)
The Field - From Here We Go To Sublime - Kompakt - 2007
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The movie is better than the book:
Silence of the Lambs
Fight Club
The casting of the characters in the movie versions are superb, and that's what makes the movies slightly better in the above cases.
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Maybe I've hyped him so much in my skull I've created a determination about his style to be extremely powerful and psychedelic. All of this because of one track I heard a sample of, of his 'Uber' album. And now, I want this album, have no idea about his music, but I know I want it. Strange.
You haven't hyped him. Über den angst is a great album, and it's pretty much one long track, ever shifting, and that's very uncommon these days.
I liked Double Bouble, but I haven't given Subliminal Messages a proper listen yet (listening to it right now).
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TIP, no question about it, they released Mystical Experiences, Feeling Weird and enough high quality single tracks for another two full length albums. If you haven't already tracked down all of TIP's single tracks, you should, it's amazing how many excellent tracks they have made.
Slinky Wizard, they shouldn't really be in competition, no album, a handful of good tracks (mainly thanks to Simon Posford).
TIP rules.
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I agree with what has already been mentioned, and would like to add:
The Padmasana album is Gio's (aka Makyo) best work and it's simply amazing, especially the second track. Mushroom music.
Varied and far from the generic standard psychill sound, and yet familiar vibes.
Digital Mystery Tour - Digital Mystery Tour
Total Eclipse magic
Evan Marc & Steve Hillage - Dreamtime Submersible
Bluetech vs System 7, one of the best coops I've ever heard
Beautiful and emotional melodic ambient
Worst samples ever?
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Probably all samples used by GMS.
All Matrix samples.