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best necro in a long time
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On 8/22/2021 at 2:21 PM, AstralSphinx said:
Does anyone have any snare/clap similar to the ones like MFG used in Overload Remix, and that Astral Projection often used? It sounds like a gated snare+clap combo kinda? Also found in the Miranda-Gnocchi Remix. It doesn't sound like the pure TR-909/TR-808 snare/claps. Could it be some Linn Drum or some other drum machine layered?
*Edit found some quite similar ones in Imbas sample pack.
tr-606 ?
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On 8/15/2021 at 3:45 AM, AstralSphinx said:
I’m having lot’s of fun with the latest AudioRealism Bassline update, very good selection of algos to combine between now.
Also the Arturia ARP-2600V3 is very nice for some Hallucinogenesque sounds.
Weird that Arturia hasn’t made a SH-101 emulation yet?
im definitely gonna try out the new Bassline update. Looks really amazing.
Im loving your musical research man, keep posting
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electric blue, and the nexus is for sure the best ones on there imho. There are some poor ones like Sticks and stones but its such a cool futuristic and more minimal approach and they really nailed it tbh. Techno Drome is also a killer track and infinite justice.
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these are great in that price range!
https://www.thomann.de/se/behringer_b2030a_truth_aktivmonitor.htm
aswell as these
https://www.thomann.de/se/jbl_lsr_305p_mkii.htm
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12 hours ago, AstralSphinx said:
Just stumbled upon this very extensive academical analysis/essay of the Goa Trance genre and song structure/production.
It features several bassline note charts from old school Goa Trance songs:
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/14924953.pdf
My bet it’s someone who is a member on psynews who wrote it.
Very interesting, and written by someone involved in the Finish Goa/Psy scene.
holy crap. A thesis on goa trance. Thanks for posting it. surely must read some time.
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im really interested in dimension 5 aswell. They have a really unique sound for their time period, almost like it doesnt fit in the time they released their music in, not sure how to describe it. Ive said before it almost sounds software like in a way (but not, at the same time), but looking at their studio, they had all the pieces everyone else had. So it must be the processing; and that would be really interesting to get insight into..
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20 hours ago, AstralSphinx said:
The brain unit :
Mac G3 266Mhz
PC Pentium 800Mhz
Korg 12/12 soundcard
Gina soundcard
Logic Audio Platinum
Mackie 32*8 bus mixing desk
Mackie HR824 monitorThe keyboards unit :
Kurzweil K2000
Korg MS20
Korg MS50
Roland SH101
Roland Juno106
ARP 2600
Oscar
Prophet 5The digital unit :
Akai S3200
Akai CD3000
Akai DR16
Fostex D-5
Tascam mx2424The effects unit :
TC M2000
Zoom
Behringer intelligate
Alesis Quadraverb
Drawmer Gate
Bel Flanger
Ensoniq DP/4
Eventide DSP4000
Eventide Harmonizer
AMS dm 2-80
TC Electronic
Smalltone Phase"great post i read all of it, very interesting. the ARP could be a source for his basslines definitely, as it has that raw organic flavor to it.
and the Eventide DSP4000 and the Eventide Harmonizer H3000 is definitely what made his tracks sound so damn good (on top of his skills ofc) aswell as that TC electronic Finalizer. Which Im not sure exactly what it does tbh, except making it sound even better. Maybe something like a Crystalizer/Vitalizer with compression/limiting?
Anyway this is hugely interesting and I love diving into the technicals of these legends, to perhaps gain some inside knowledge. Keep hunting
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22 hours ago, AstralSphinx said:
Wow nice!
I get some heavy deja vu from this child_kick.wav. What community was it, badboll.nu? I have like some really blurry memory of having used this kick in Reason around that time. No clue where I got the kick from back then though. Thanks!
yep it was badboll
i suppose that kick circulated around that place ^^
me and a friend made some tunes in reason back then, using this kick, good times.
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22 hours ago, AstralSphinx said:
Maybe this space ship was involved in bass duties?
And I would also love to know what phaser he used on those albums? I’m trying to replicate the phaser settings. But I don’t know how many stages his phaser had/was set to. Could he have used a smalltone phaser? Or perhaps a phaser effect is included in the Eventide Multi-FX chain?
The phasers I’m currently trying are on Output Portal and Output Thermal. They get kinda close. Certainly closer than Logic’s own phaser. If I would have been the person interviewing/filming the in the studio segment with Simon Posford. I would’ve asked one million questions.
nearly sure he used his very very expensive eventide multi-fx box (H3000?) for all of his FX. im sure ive seen a video somewhere of him going on about how great that is. but i couldve dreamed it.
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groom lake is my fav miranda track. i just checked its bpm, and if im not tapping all too off its 144.2. (after 200 taps)
https://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm
not sure what gear these guys used to make their kicks, but im sure you could remake them with kick 2. also you have to take into consideration the compression and eq that was applied; that very much could shape the sound alot
but this kick was given to me by miranda back in mid 2000s; she was on a community i was also on and we chatted a bit, im sure she gave this kick to quite few people.
https://www.aeap.se/tmp/child_kick.wav
the kick on groom lake seems similar as this, but slightly longer; with a more pronounced pitch decay. (so basically just pitched down)
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the distressor is nothing but a compressor; and you could accomplish that with any good compressor, i recommend Pro-C. But that wouldnt be enough. That would handle the compression bit, but not the color/sound of it. This require very creative use of distortions. A MB distortion plug with oversampling could probably add color to emulate the distressor (which is one of the best compressors there are)
the "bock" and knocky words he use are simply referreing to the attack and release. most people these days call it punch; to add more or less transient to a kickdrum.
but for the distortion he talks about referring to the distressor, im sure he means overdrive distortion which analog units handle great; in the box not so much. youd be better off using a distortion plugin for that; since pushing the gain over 0dbs isnt really overdrive in the box, its just clipping.
kick 2 i would recommend for any kick old school or not. (but any VA can work)
the things he has that cannot compete itb, is definitely the Eventide units to name a few, the FX those can produce are of much higher quality than what you find itb, and you really have to be very creative with your plugin chains to get close.
delay on the bass (or rather, echo) is definitely something thats missing in most new school stuff, for example in gamma goblins pt 2 there is a nice echo on the bassline (and pretty much everything) to create a certain space. same goes for much of his tracks. i think one reason people who work ITB dont use that is simply cause it doesnt sound as good off the bat; and it can be hard to recreate something that simply is a preset in an Eventide box.
This can also be demonstrated using the Eventide plugins based on their boxes - it sounds nothing like it and sounds just like any other plugin.
this is all just my opinion and nothing more
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15 hours ago, RTP said:
Thanks, I got the files, can't promise anything but we will try - or let's put it that way: I'll beg my mate that we will do something with it
Doesn't mean anything monumental unfortunately - I have another project that I wanna do where we have the files and yet there was nothing yet - but we will do, it's on the list...
cool. if i happen to create something new in the meantime ill post it here, maybe some melodies this time :p
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32 minutes ago, Psychedelic Superbeast said:
how can i use them? Sadly i just own FL Studio...what plug ins do you have?...what about if people send you just melodies/ideas on a piano roll or screenshot and you finish the track(use your great synths/mastering skills). it does not to be my stuff but if there is no one doing it...i meran comon we are lots of people loving it for years that music and understanding it! i think that it iss possible to do a cool track together
Also i promissed Suntrip Rec that they are allowed to use it in their new compilation...Joske was asking me months ago. I think it was somewhere on Nibiru in my Dream....we hat a nice drink together with Britney Spears <3
you could just import them if you like. either use them as is in your own projects, or take the kick or the hihat or whatever and use that.. or dont use it at all.
sure you could post midi files here of your melodies. ill be willing to attempt something with your melodies
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Yeah. Sorry to disappoint. Use the sounds i gave or dont use them, either way.
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12 hours ago, RTP said:
cool ... feel free to post whichever you can spare - wav would be brilliant - and I'll try to see if we can do something in the (new) Skeletone studio ... no promise though...
I have scheduled monthly sessions and it'll take one or two till we can come up with something - so it'll take a while, but if anything develops in the meantime, I'll follow this thread...
there were not many stems for these very tiny projects . let me know if something isnt right. each stem is 4 bars, in 48khz, at 32bit float.
https://www.aeap.se/tmp/psynews.zip
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@Jon Cocco nice unbiased, objective review! you really nailed it tbh.
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13 hours ago, RTP said:
Hey thanks for posting ... that is good, I prefer the second one but it's not that important. Whichever you can spare.
Do you have a project for these or only the wav?
i have the projects, and could send midis or waves from both of them.
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On 7/8/2021 at 10:47 PM, Psychedelic Superbeast said:
(However, you could try to influence it a little, maybe by providing good content.)
maybe not good content but some content..
https://www.aeap.se/tmp/psynews-1-16.wav
https://www.aeap.se/tmp/psynews-2-16.wav
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On 6/17/2021 at 1:31 PM, AstralSphinx said:
Classic Swedish stuff.
I also like how for a brief moment in time, there was an overlap between Goa Trance and this commercial Club sound. With some remix works between for example Miranda and Antiloop. And also with I Savastano, who was really a House/Club music guy anyhow, before and after his short forays into Goa Trance. The idea that club music could overlap rather seamlessly with the Goa Trance sound, is still rather fascinating. I'm not sure why something similar isn't happening today, except perhaps within full-on music.
yep, there was a common theme in swe between for example richi m, antiloop, miranda, earthbound, pinocchio. it was a cool time when the radio actually played this type of stuff.
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14 hours ago, staffan said:
I like when artists do something with their live sets. Sure it doesn't always work, but here I have no problem with it. =))
thats what i remember it sounding like. but i remember them being in a small booth, and really have no recollection of a third guy. but it sounded like that! tbh i dont think it sounds or fits very nicely. especially on let there be light ; its not even specifically on beat. and while i love a little shuffle and humanized patterns, it certainly dont work with a solid 4/4 trance beat, IMHO.
but thats whats great we all have different taste
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i mean necroing a thread after 12 years just to diss somebody is pretty damn cold. And hilarious