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    For people that buy music

    in General Psytrance

    Posted · Edited by unikos

    and the sound quality is another and even stronger reason I guess.... it just sounds better! so i basicly :wub: cds

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    well sound quality is not an issue really. you could be able to download the "exact same" track as on a cd, same quality, etc..

     

    mp3 -> disposable, intangible, easy to delete by accident, no real value for me, even if it's paid for

    CD -> a real thing, nice, small & durable

    Vinyl -> better looking, but wears with use & too big for my small shelves

     

    :)

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    well the music i play from my computer is "tangible". i can really hear it and appreciate it. just like the sound coming out from my cd player. its not like you touch a cd and you perceive its sound :rolleyes:

    is the sound coming from a live act less so than the one coming from a dj set?

     

    not trying to provoke any silly argument here.. hope its clear :)

     

    edit: not saying more, nemo you covered everything i wanted to say 100%

    There is only one problem with Psy-Trance today

    in General Psytrance

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    Here we need a VISA to have a Paypal account, and you only get VISA when you have a job/cashflow... Which is not the case for many youngsters

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    afaik, you can get a card for online buys from your bank without it being a "real" credit card. i.e. a card that you "charge" with money at your local branch and use to transfer this money to suntrip/other label.

    dont take this in the wrong way: do you have a problem against those of us who like to buy your products online? i dont get it.. (look at what gnome also said, i quote it below)

     

     

    I don't think that the psytrancers are lazy to go to the record shop. It's really a false argument, or it's because you have the famous syndrom of the greek "varemara" or laziness.  :lol: IMO, you simply don't want to spend money for cd's anymore or not for all, and especially when you have already to pay your monthly internet subscription... I understand it.  ;)

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    hardly.. maybe you have not realised all (physical) record shops are closing down one after the other??

    come on people, are you oblivious to what is happenning? even in london there is no proper psy-shop anymore. only one i know of is dmt and last time i was there it was reduced to a stall, not a shop, that sold some cd's left over unsold from the old days. their main trade is t-shirts, etc !

     

    But guys,we are talking about labels releasing CDs AND mp3's online.

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    exactly.

    it seems people think we're advocating the death of the cd.

    but all we are actually supporting is for labels/artists to go with the flow of things and have the digital option available....

    (i admit there is a new problem here.. if you have both ways of selling, it will be hard to print lets say 300 cds, because the price will be even hgher)

     

    as for downloading being more expensive than buying... not always true..

    i want music. and i want it now. i'm not that happy with ordering stuff online and waiting for it to arrive. (and sometimes get lost or broken)

    the other day i got the new koxbox for 15 euros from a physical shop. (which is 20km from where i live actually.)

    There is only one problem with Psy-Trance today

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    Most of the people I know listen to music on CD, whether it's purchased copies, copied from other people or burned MP3s.

     

    As for your other comment, I'll reply via PM.

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    colin you and your mates must be the exception... really!

    last time i met someone who exclusively listens to vinyls and cd's was someone whose home stereo is made of "lamps" and is worth 10,000 euros.. not your average psytrance enthusiast.

     

    even a mate who used to own a psy label (before realising that he cant afford to lose ALL his money) and owns a LOT of vinyls and cds, is predominantly using his laptop to play music, since its easy to find what you're looking for at any moment ;)

     

    personally, i really think the future is with online sales (i've opened at least one topic in this before).

    cds are more expensive and plain wasteful. we all like the artwork, but why not have the option to get it for cheaper, already encoded in high quality format, etc, etc

    i consider myself to be lucky enough to have enough money to spend on the "pursuit of happines". but if i were to buy everything i wanted (from releases) i would end up bankrupt. it doesnt make sense to spend lets say 100 euros a month on music. soooo, i end up not buying anything! (okay, almost anything)

     

    conclusion: labels and artists need to realise that psytrancers are exactly the way gnome describes them (for the most part). we are too laCy to go to the record shop and since all want to have a huge collection, we cant afford/dont want to spend all our money on music.

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