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    Psytrance RIP 2012?

    in General Psytrance

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    Well, if psytrance is dead for you, that's fine. However, that's not the case with everyone. I just don't get why you made the thread, if you had already made up your mind anyway. And why do you feel the need to tell people that their taste in music sucks?

     

    In fact I didn't say anyone's taste sucked and anyone can listen to anything he wants (including R&B ,pop and neofolk).I only said and emphasized "IMO" (twice!) Richpa's was the best tracks, that's all.

     

    I was expecting someone to prove me wrong and come up with an original album that would be to say "No psytrance isn't dead". Eg that happened in 2005 with Derango's Tumult. I hoped that would happen again but nah. I was expecting some interesting dark/forest/prog fusion (coincidence is I found about Merkaba today, whose music I found rather interesting)

     

    I also want to discuss the stagnation of genres in general, not only psytrance, and wonder why other genres that have been here for more than a decade can still be innovative while psytrance fails, as of lately.And it's not only stagnation ,it's degression as well. Heck,ambient(and I mean pure,beatless/drone ambient in the realms of Steve Roach, Vidna Obmana, Robert Rich, Biosphere ) has been the same since 80s but it's still the same quality,although still lacking innovation.Now,psytrance not only stagnated but the quality also fell dramatically.

     

    And when I say dead, I defined it in my last post. It's almost dead in the way I mentioned.

     

    I still DO listen to psytrancebut it's mostly stuff from 95 - 2005.In fact as of lately I listen like ~20 psytrance tracks per day, that's enough considering I do listen to other music as well.

     

    You know what? I think in a way what happened to psytrance is similar to what happened to punk.

     

    Punk started pretty dynamically in the 70s, then we had post-punk, then hardcore punk, from which NYHC was born and then Hardcore/metalcore etc, then we had post-hardcore,lately some fusions between post-hardcore and sludge/post-metal/screamo, and now... We mostly have all these things of the past just with modern production ;)

     

    Something rather equivalent happened to psytrance just with the names changing... psy/goa, dark psy, forest, suomi,prog,minimal... (in no particular order)

    Psytrance RIP 2012?

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    Procyon, not exclusively, any kind of psy.

     

    Well Richpa has the best taste so far IMO and Innerspace was the best track (IMO again,needless to say).

     

    All in all in these thread out of 9 tracks, *NONE* was innovative, only 2-3 were above average, 1-2 significantly above average and the rest range from awful to mediocre or decent at best, as expected.

     

    If we also take into account that psynews members generally have better taste than your average joe the Signal-to-Noise / Diamonds-To-Shit ratio of the psyscene nowadays is even lower.

    Brain Deflections - Horizontal-y

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    well, I have the cd, but I think it is mediocre... 2 good tracks, the rest is boring... it is not really bad, but there is no real line/story in the tracks imo

     

    I think it's mostly meant to be background trance or just the music to warmup a party or end it before the psychill takes place ;)

     

    It has some very nice danceable parts though

    Detroit Techno

    in Other Electronica

    Posted

    It's related to Techno for sure, not sure what detroit techno is about though.I Would say Richie is minimal techno and Plastikman is minimal ambient techno.

     

    Anyhow some technoid stuff I think pretty dope

     

    http://www.discogs.com/Orphx-Circuitbreaking/master/58471

     

    http://www.discogs.com/Orphx-Radiotherapy/release/2806144

     

    http://www.discogs.com/5F-X-Flight-Recorder-50/release/2530180

     

    =-=

     

    http://www.discogs.com/Monolake-Cinemascope/master/2327

    Carbon Based Lifeforms - Twentythree

    in 2011

    Posted

    Do me a favor please and tell me. I'm always glad for thematized recommendations. I hope it won't be something like Biosphere's Substrata or Klaus Schulze's Irrlicht.

     

    Why not? Biosphere is 10 levels above CBL. ;)

    And of course there's tons of better drone ambient out there. eg Steve Roach - Immersion: One

     

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