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wow, didn't see this one up to now. looking forward especially to the artha album and artifact303 ep.
that artha liveset has been playing in my car for weeks
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i did understand and agree with you, but was trying to funnily prove your point by mimicking the ingorant "obsessed with goa" guyI think you misunderstood me here. I don't have anything against Goa. Actually Goa is my all time favorite style. Always was, is and will be. But I don't agree with the obsession about Goa, you know that it's not Goa it's not good. Of course that's me. If someone likes only Goa and nothing more is ok, but from my point of view there's more than that. Including the real Goa evolution which I still search.
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it doesn't matter how much they sell. it matters how much it is played at parties. over here they play progressive until like 4 or 5 people arrive at the party, then they switch to darkpsy. no change in music until the sun begins to rise - then they play even harder darkpsy (honestly WTF?!?). if it's an indoor party the venue closes at 6:00 or 7:00 while there's still darkpsy running. if it's an outdoor party they change to cheesy fullon at 7:00 and then to progressive at something like 8:00. at festivals i don't want to dance in the night anymore.Way to miss the point. Darkpsy doesn't sell more. In fact if you actually look at psyshop's chart like Ormion suggested you'll find very little darkpsy. Quite how anybody can claim that a subgenre which makes up a tiny fraction of psytrance sales compared to, say, progressive is killing the scene is beyond me.
how does that not kill the scene if there's some people who don't like dark?
if it weren't for some good psychedelic progressive that's sometimes played instead of the housy stuff, i wouldn't bother going to festivals anymore.
maybe it's different where you live. at a local darkpsy party you find 30-50% of people with camouflage baggypants and baseball caps, whereas at a progressive party the people look just like on the photo you posted.My experience of the darkpsy scene is that it has a lot more in common with how people describe the early days of psytrance than any other scene at the moment. Have you ever been to a darkpsy festival? Look at this photo I took last year
also the darkpsy parties are the ones where bags and clothes are stolen. doesn't happen at the (few! ) other parties.
not if they whole psy scene from goa to progressive to darkpsy is only about 200 people where you liveThere is no scene, there are scenes now.
that example you have given is a weak one. that etnica track is rubbish compared to the marvellous pieces that are on Alien Protein or IFO.What utter rubbish. I don't know much about the history of psytrance, but it's nonetheless obvious to my ears that darkpsy has evolved continuously from old psytrance. Listen to this, by old-school favourites Etnica, and try telling me that doesn't sound like darkpsy. Listen to this by The Nommos and try telling me that you can't see how that's a natural progression from old-school psytrance.
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"Full On Basslines"
agreed
"Minimalism"
yes and no. i like some laid back minimal progressive at daytime when it's too hot to be dancing, but still it has gone too far.
"House, Progressive Techno, Tech House etc. influences
Why?"
agreed
"No melodies in Darkpsy"
agreed. there are some darkpsy tracks with nice melodies but i've never heard one of them at a party.
"Ethno-cliches in ambient
We have enough, don't you think? The same with all these dub stuff. Where's the spacey psybient? The trancey melodies? Why everything must sound so earthly today?"
yep. i don't like that ethno stuff. the dub stuff is nice though. the ideal combination is dub stuff with trancey spacey melodies like some ambient tracks from mwnn. i still like the non-dub stuff with spacey trancey stuff a lot.
"Extreme bpm's
150 is good, 160 is good, 200 not like. The same with 120 bpm dance tracks. No thanks!"
agreed. although i prefer 140-150. stomping is getting tiring with 160
"Obsession with Goa"
no fucking way! Goa>>Everything else
"Obsession with Simon"
i don't care. he's good but no that good
"Vocoding samples"
fully agreed. nothing worse than that. even darkpsy is better.
"No liquid sounds"
agreed
"People afraid of Trance"
agreed
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Afgin - Return to the Source
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Great mix, I throughly enjoyed that.
Edit: 2nd time listening and it only gets better!
+1
it does get better indeed.
made me want to listen to your other again and they got a lot of playing lately
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downloading right now. tracklist does indeed look quite intreiging (how do you spell that?)
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+1; there is no better.If you like sitars, Shakta vs Moonweed - Micronesia.
Pharagonescia - Pharatropic is also a (lesser known, but) very good track with a lot of eastern influences.
Shakta - Lepton Head (Deedrah Rmx), Crop Circles - Lunar Civilization and AP - Mahadeva also come to my mind, but i suspect you already know about those
for fullon i recommend: Electric Universe - the Prayer; solid track with wonderful sanskrit chanting
for darkpsy take: Psykovsky - Last Bus Madras
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actually i find that better than most darkpsy. is there something wrong with me?
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wooohooo!Ah, thanks for bringing this back into my attention... I will make a mix now, and upload the others
please don't take long. i can hardly wait
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same here. but living in a small flat turning up the volume and leaving the doors open is a viable option if i don't want to interrupt the flow100%
if possible i wait till the end of the track, and then pause it !!!
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And then there's me to uphold the stereotype.
you're not alone. but most people think i listen to metal when they see me
we need more people to uphold the stereotype!
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CDs and mp3 (320kbps if possible)
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i was the first one to vote for biocandy
close contenders were astral warrior, book of eden and eye am the i (in order of preference).
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I love Prana - Cyclone
and Pleiadians - I.F.O
Dimension 5 - Second Phaze
isn't bad either.
but the cover is Dragon Tales is even better than these.
so basicallly i like weird colorful art, preferably with fractals
it's true that a lot of covers are of bad quality. astral projection's for example...
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this Goa trance set wont dissapoint you old schoolers out there;)
i can tell that from the tracklist alone
downloading right now...
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what's insane about that?already 5 people with over 13 hours ... you must be insane, guys
24 hours -8 hours of sleeping -2 hours of cooking and eating makes 14 hours of music whenever i have the time. obviously less when university starts again.
i become insane when i cannot listen to good music for a day. i guess you could call me an addict
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pleiadians is very good music with well constructed melodies that flow into each other.
listening to the whole of IFO with headphones is a nice experience.
but D5 on the other side is much more than that. take Transdimensional, put on your headphones and turn the volume up: after one or two tracks everything becomes soft and the sounds take on a three-dimensional quality, a sharpness and precision that IFO cannot deliver. the music almost begins to sound like if you're on acid.
pleiadians may be nice to listen if you're on drugs, but with D5 you don't need drugs, the music itself gets you high.
(i tried it yesterday, even second phaze can put you in a psychedelic state just like transdimensional)
D5>Pleiadians!
(listening to alien protein right now )
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.rar -> having to use buggy third party tools
.zip -> native support by the os
for the codec i'd prefer apple lossless which of course isn't practicable here. i don't care if it's wav or flac. both lossless and and size difference is not that huge.
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Opus Iridium
Goasia - From Other Spaces
Dimension 5 - Transdimensional
Twist Dreams
Khetzal - Corolle
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Dimension 5 - Transdimensional
i always wonder why etnica/pleiandians get so much credit. it's really good music but to me it sounds a bit flat as if something was missing...
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i do know some of that. have some sets by ekeaze and loved that stuff back when i was really into freetekno. but people say they go to a "acid party" even when you hear maybe 3 or 4 tracks with a 303 in one evening or even worse when they play (303-less) hardcore for the entire night.
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as I thought the concept "true acid" is not international...
when people say "acid" over here they usually mean freetekno, which rarely even has a 303 in it . how fucked up is that?
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80% of the recommendations are not Acid...
what is acid then by your definition? acid house, acid trance, acid techno, acid tekno, acidcore?
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Xerox. why name your project after a company that makes photocopiers?
Crop Circles - Tetrahedron (DAT Records) *Etnica&Lotus Omega !*
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anyone who loves pleiadians will no doubt love this. it's good but not my style of goa trance.