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Asia 2001 ... Bootlegs?


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If you have EAC (with proper configuration) and some Asia 2001 CDs, please rip it (a couple of the separate tracks or CD image) just to get the CRCs from it. You should probably include the top of the log file so we know the settings are right.... It would be interesting to see if they match. I think it's the last thing a bootlegger would worry about faking, and then it wouldn't really matter any more. Recently my friend got Asia 2001 - Live CD and his CRC values were different from mine. (I don't completely trust his values though.) If you do this, please also say if you got your CD recently or had it for a long time.

 

Here is some of my results.

 

 

ASIA 2001 - LIVE (old cd)

TOC of the extracted CD

 

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector

---------------------------------------------------------

1 | 0:00.00 | 7:39.60 | 0 | 34484

2 | 7:39.60 | 8:20.05 | 34485 | 71989

3 | 15:59.65 | 10:18.33 | 71990 | 118372

4 | 26:18.23 | 8:29.37 | 118373 | 156584

5 | 34:47.60 | 8:12.68 | 156585 | 193552

6 | 43:00.53 | 7:36.40 | 193553 | 227792

7 | 50:37.18 | 8:48.37 | 227793 | 267429

8 | 59:25.55 | 10:51.05 | 267430 | 316259

 

 

Range status and errors

 

Selected range

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\CDImage.wav

 

Peak level 100.0 %

Test CRC C280D37A

Copy CRC C280D37A

Copy OK

 

No errors occurred

 

 

AccurateRip summary

 

Track 1 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [900A101C]

Track 2 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [FE69D373]

Track 3 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [A5265312]

Track 4 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [43545334]

Track 5 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [8CCC5191]

Track 6 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [56FF2286]

Track 7 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [20055397]

Track 8 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [25E114FA]

 

VA - GALACTIC NEBULA (new CD, got it on eBay, so I'm curious if it's a bootleg or not)

TOC of the extracted CD

 

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector

---------------------------------------------------------

1 | 0:00.00 | 10:51.20 | 0 | 48844

2 | 10:51.20 | 8:42.45 | 48845 | 88039

3 | 19:33.65 | 5:28.52 | 88040 | 112691

4 | 25:02.42 | 9:23.43 | 112692 | 154959

5 | 34:26.10 | 7:45.22 | 154960 | 189856

6 | 42:11.32 | 9:38.58 | 189857 | 233264

7 | 51:50.15 | 8:04.70 | 233265 | 269634

8 | 59:55.10 | 7:52.12 | 269635 | 305046

 

 

Track 1

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\01-MFG_-_Shape_The_Future.wav

 

Peak level 99.4 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC 03403839

Copy CRC 03403839

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 2

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\02-Red_Aum_-_Orion.wav

 

Peak level 99.4 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC 653B499A

Copy CRC 653B499A

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 3

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\03-Asia_2001_-_Planetarium.wav

 

Peak level 99.3 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC 3E43DF01

Copy CRC 3E43DF01

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 4

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\04-Komaklub_-_Komaklub.wav

 

Peak level 99.4 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC EA2B6667

Copy CRC EA2B6667

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 5

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\05-Asia_2001_-_Processor_5.wav

 

Peak level 99.3 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC AE361F3D

Copy CRC AE361F3D

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 6

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\06-Komaklub_-_Vertige.wav

 

Peak level 99.4 %

Track quality 99.9 %

Test CRC 5DC453A7

Copy CRC 5DC453A7

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 7

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\07-Asia_2001_-_Rakshas.wav

 

Peak level 99.3 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC 53309C3A

Copy CRC 53309C3A

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 8

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\08-Pushmataha_-_Diu.wav

 

Peak level 99.3 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC E5CA80EA

Copy CRC E5CA80EA

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

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Asia 2001 - Strange World (old cd, correct values)

TOC of the extracted CD

 

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector

---------------------------------------------------------

1 | 0:00.00 | 7:36.35 | 0 | 34234

2 | 7:36.35 | 7:57.30 | 34235 | 70039

3 | 15:33.65 | 6:14.23 | 70040 | 98112

4 | 21:48.13 | 7:42.35 | 98113 | 132797

5 | 29:30.48 | 8:53.12 | 132798 | 172784

6 | 38:23.60 | 7:11.35 | 172785 | 205144

7 | 45:35.20 | 6:36.03 | 205145 | 234847

8 | 52:11.23 | 7:04.47 | 234848 | 266694

 

 

Track 1

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\Asia 2001 - 1996 - Strange World (FLAC)\01-Asia_2001_-_Strange_World.wav

 

Peak level 95.0 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC 70C849CD

Copy CRC 70C849CD

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 2

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\Asia 2001 - 1996 - Strange World (FLAC)\02-Asia_2001_-_Lokâyatikas.wav

 

Peak level 99.9 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC B0050D98

Copy CRC B0050D98

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 3

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\Asia 2001 - 1996 - Strange World (FLAC)\03-Asia_2001_-_7ème_Symbol.wav

 

Peak level 98.1 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC A2A55513

Copy CRC A2A55513

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Asia 2001 - Ra (not my rip, but I've seen several people's that match)

TOC of the extracted CD

 

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector

---------------------------------------------------------

1 | 0:00.32 | 9:00.08 | 32 | 40539

2 | 9:00.40 | 7:32.52 | 40540 | 74491

3 | 16:33.17 | 6:57.73 | 74492 | 105839

4 | 23:31.15 | 6:37.70 | 105840 | 135684

5 | 30:09.10 | 6:18.50 | 135685 | 164084

6 | 36:27.60 | 6:21.52 | 164085 | 192711

7 | 42:49.37 | 9:10.70 | 192712 | 234031

8 | 52:00.32 | 8:29.28 | 234032 | 272234

9 | 60:29.60 | 7:09.65 | 272235 | 304474

10 | 67:39.50 | 2:39.55 | 304475 | 316454

 

 

Track 1

 

Filename C:\Users\pm\Desktop\asia2001\01-Asia_2001_-_Rotopod.wav

 

Peak level 87.5 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC A9D0B4F5

Copy CRC A9D0B4F5

Copy OK

 

Track 2

 

Filename C:\Users\pm\Desktop\asia2001\02-Asia_2001_-_Paradise_Island.wav

 

Peak level 75.8 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC AC5E1599

Copy CRC AC5E1599

Copy OK

 

Track 3

 

Filename C:\Users\pm\Desktop\asia2001\03-Asia_2001_-_Planetarium.wav

 

Peak level 77.1 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC 6906D808

Copy CRC 6906D808

Copy OK

VA - Psychedelic Transition - Andromede (newer CD)

TOC of the extracted CD

 

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector

---------------------------------------------------------

1 | 0:00.32 | 6:54.13 | 32 | 31094

2 | 6:54.45 | 7:03.47 | 31095 | 62866

3 | 13:58.17 | 6:06.70 | 62867 | 90386

4 | 20:05.12 | 8:38.25 | 90387 | 129261

5 | 28:43.37 | 6:36.35 | 129262 | 158996

6 | 35:19.72 | 5:59.53 | 158997 | 185974

7 | 41:19.50 | 8:01.62 | 185975 | 222111

8 | 49:21.37 | 7:18.15 | 222112 | 254976

9 | 56:39.52 | 7:20.15 | 254977 | 287991

 

 

Track 1

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Psychédélique Transition - Andromède (1996) (FLAC)\01-Martin_Cooper_-_Hallu_Practical.wav

 

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.32

 

Peak level 99.2 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC 9554B415

Copy CRC 9554B415

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 2

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Psychédélique Transition - Andromède (1996) (FLAC)\02-Phushmataha_-_Bloomer.wav

 

Pre-gap length 0:00:00.38

 

Peak level 87.0 %

Track quality 100.0 %

Test CRC FDA9A4DD

Copy CRC FDA9A4DD

Track not present in AccurateRip database

Copy OK

 

Track 3

 

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Psychédélique Transition - Andromède (1996) (FLAC)\03-Asia_2001_-_Mara-Djha.wav

 

Peak level 100.0 %

Track quality 99.9 %

Test CRC 436F4CED

Copy CRC 436F4CED

Track not present in AccurateRip database

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Goa-Head: please report to me instead of replying in threads. No wse can't he's using proxies.

 

 

bwhale: consider this page showing that 2 versions of Live exist (sure of it, I have the official, Anoebis has the promo) http://www.discogs.com/Asia-2001-Live/master/89566

Honnestly, I don't think there were many bootlegs of psytrance cds. Ok a few in the past years in Russia (3DVision cds were bootlegged there) or the balkans, but that's really marginal.

 

I think you can have a different TOC even if you repress a given CD without reusing the original glassmaster, or press in 2 different factories (because for example you distribute from 2 countries at the same time, like France via Transpact and Israel via Phonokol, and it's cheaper like that). I'm not expert in these things but that's likely to have happened then.

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I think he's too way much obsessed with EAC. It's not the first time he asked such questions (also on discogs) Before the millennium they produced thousand's of copies for all releases, not like today. So as Mars said before these slight EAC variations are just manufacturing differences from one batch/pressing plant to another.

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Well technically the Asia 2001 "promo" versions are the exact same as the originals, only they have slightly different artwork. But I don't have EAC or want to get it so I can't help here.

 

 

Not completely true. Listen to asia 2001 - live ( 2 two last tracks of the promo version are not mastered and ofcourse they sound like crap on the promo).

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