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  1. Psy trance is by definition a sub-set of predefined sounds and formulas that we collectively know (and identify or misidentify as psy trance). As it has been stated you have room to grow and experiment a bit within these confines, but if you go too far, then suddenly it is not psy anymore according to our definition. The artists that evolved the most (in what direction it is unimportant) are no longer psy, because they decided to stretch the line a bit farther. They crossed over to electro, or tech house, or horror trance or whatever. The sad truth is, once a sub-subculture is defined as such, once we identify the psy sound, or the 'goa' sound, it stops evolving, given those basic elements are now defined.

  2. careful now RTP, according to RA, Timo simply paid to put his name there (or something along those lines - kind of like raja ram) so the real kudos here is actually for santos.

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    eitherway Mr.Maas is supposed to have a gig here 20 or the 21st of the month. Same day as PanPot... this track just made it a lot easier to choose which way I roll that day

  3. Stop being smart-asses please. You want me to move it and ONLY have minimal releases or a mixture!?

    :lol:

     

    I have no idea, it is one of those rare genre-defining topics (i loved DP's picks ) and thus why it is fun. But it's up to you really, i have no qualms either-way.

  4. no comment

    Minilogue - Animals (Cocoon, 2008)

    Extrawelt - Schone Neue Extrawelt (Cocoon, 2008)

     

    complex, very musical

    Bruno Pronsato - Why Can't We Be Like Us (Hello Repeat, 2007)

    Stewart Walker - Concentricity (Persona, 2007)

    Robert Babicz - A Cheerful Temper (Systematic, 2007) (just see the list of equiptment he used)

     

    gentle, featured in many top ten's of 2007

    Efdemin - Efdemin (Dial, 2007)

    Pantha du Prince - This Bliss (Dial, 2007)

     

    trance from the point of view of minimal

    Aril Brikha - Ex Machina (Peacefrog, 2008)

     

    other awesomenesses

    Luke Solomon - The Difference Engine (REKIDS, 2008)

    John Tejada - Where (Palette, 2008)

    Ricardo Villalobos - Vasco (Perlon, 2008)

    Boris Brejcha - Mein Wahres Ich (Harthouse Mannheim, 2008)

    Gabriel Ananda - Bambusbeats (Karmarouge, 2007)

    Guy Gerber - Late bloomers (Cocoon, 2007)

    The Field - From Here We Go Sublime (Kompakt, 2007)

    VA - Balance 12 - Lee Burridge (EQ, 2007)

     

    That's subjective, of course, and not exactly 'minimal', rather a blend of techno, house, electronica, dub, trance and ambient with a mnml approach. I think they are all must-haves, some are better than the others, some just need time to get into. Happy digging =) ...and sorry for being a month late

     

    Thread could be moved to other electonica.

    That is an excelent list, we seem to be on similar wavelengths.If you are into Stewart Walker, be sure to check out "Grounded in Existence" which is a bit less dance and more melodic, but probably his best. Anyway, there's a lot I don't know here, so I'll take a look cheers!

     

     

    The new Perfect Stranger has some real slammers. The W, Free Cloud and Easy

    The new Ace Ventura remixes has some excellent material from what I've heard especially the Fiord (Antix) remix which is simply brilliant. And also "The Spark" is quite good.

    That's all I can think of right now :unsure:

    Agree, the new perfect stranger is good.

  5. you are right. it was most probably a dj set.

     

    i heard his set at coachella wasn't good either. maybe he tries to play more mainstream (mostly dnb) stuff in US :unsure:

    The coachella set (thought you were talking about that one) was sick... literally. He jammed in there everything from Run DMC to System of A Down, to ape-shit crazy DnB (current value) ... You can find a precarious recording of the set online... google it up.

     

     

    i don't understand why and how aphex twin, autechre, squarepusher, plaid,... are so popular here. they are all good (well, never liked squarepusher though) but all the people that i met here who like IDM are only familiar with The Warp Records artists. is it same in europe?

     

    e. maybe they don't know for example, the sending orbs since they are based in europe, but they should at least be familiar with bluetech!!! no? :unsure:

    1) how can you not like squarepusher? Try "Hard Normal Daddy", it's a classic, his most cohesive work as of yet, not counting a few loose tracks here and there. It sure as hell wasn't "just a souvenier" ... piece of junk, i'm still really, really disappointed with that. <_<

     

    2) Actually it wasn't until recently that i started checking out sending orbs, but "Mings Feaner" is already in my top 10 all times classic. Either way it's not really the same vibe as Warp, is it? Then again it was all about Warp about 8 to 10 years ago, because they were doing such different stuff, you know? The material they were releasing was simply breaking boundaries for good... not anymore, obviously... last time that happened it was probably with Luke Abbott and his Tuesday EP, in Border Community...

  6. some of his tracks are just mind blowing, but at the same time there some tracks that i don't like at all. i saw a live show of his US tour and it was terrible!!! well, he was playing drum n bass and i don't link dnb but even my friend who's crazy about aphex twin and drum n bass didn't like it.

     

    no doubt that he has an exceptional talent though...

    Are you sure it was a live? He does a lot DJ appearances, including Coachella, which is one of the big stops in the US.

     

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    I like his work, the richard d james album was a big for me at the time. Nevertheless, I always found AE a it more interesting, so while i don't hear any Aphex Twin constantly, a copy of Tri Repetae never leaves my ipod.

  7. Acid Techno is a brilliant genre of music of the stomping kind.

     

    I love Chris Liberator, Dave the Drummer, Roland the B*****d, Gizelle oh and so much more from the Liberator guys...

     

    Adam lab4 is playing in leeds next Saturday, i may have to go stomp some...

     

    Proteus recently played in leeds and rocked the joint.

    I fell in and out of that genre within a few semesters. In that time I did manage to go catch a few Lab4 events more than a few years ago now, they were insane... only thing i remember about them, though :rolleyes:

  8. First all, nice this place is back online, alright, it's like my day-surfing isn't complete without stopping here for a second even to read junk... and what in the world is up with all these god damn hackers? seriously? Who pissed them (him) off so bad? I mean, you got to have a real grudge (and a lot of free time) to go to those depths. How did it get to that point? I understand you will always find rowdy people and assholes, but learning to deal with these people is also part of the real world.

     

    Second, I don't know what is the connection with off-topic and it is clear there was a connection, yet i wanted to shed light on a couple of things you all know, but it never hurts to mention it again.

     

    Psynews is a music forum, but it is undeniable this is a community here that has evolved from the music aspect and has nested a little digital home. Some people stay for a while, get in to the music, share war stories, make acquaintances, fall out of the music and still remain here, or they simply leave. But it's still a community, it's more than place to come ask about music techniques and or latest albums. It's a place where you come and see what is up with 'what's his face' and 'that other crazy bastard' or just to see what is up in general with this place. Closing off topic -even though most of it's worthless in the traditional sense of the word- kills a lot of that group dynamic.

     

    lastly, I understand for everyone's sake and peace of mind, closing off-topic is the safest route to follow, but i just hope you al understand that is exactly what the bastard(s) that hacked this place wanted to do and you are letting them win. I also understand, a lot more is at stake here with other websites, including the Suntrip one, so it's a difficult call. Either way, thanks for keeping the spirits and the place up, hope it remains peaceful down there...

  9. If you are willing to look forward beyond dark psy, or just regular psy, you will find complexity and depth is applied to rhythms which is a big limiting factor for traditional dance music in mi opinion. Give a few of these ago, it might be more satisfying in the long run:

     

    http://www.discogs.com/release/971802 >Legiac - Mings Feaner

     

    www.discogs.com/release/970707 > Karsten Pflum - Fuck Music Easy

     

    But if that is not the case and you wish to remain in psy, the first thing that pops into my head is associated with complex is usually "Bus - Return of the Fist" .

  10. I thought this was funny...

     

    somnia now has its own download shop. you can purchases all titles in highest quality mp3 encoding (LAME encoder - insane setting) with print quality (300 dpi) artwork scans.

    we felt that giving huge percentages to the major download shops to provide inferior digital releases just wasn't going to work any more, so you can now find our releases directly at www.somniasound.com/digital

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    better luck to him, gonna get it after pay day tommorrow...

    :rolleyes:

  11. I tried this experiment backwards, as in what non-classical artists would sound good enough to interest a classical music buff, my father, the type of person that thinks cool jazz is just talking it too far. The result: Ame (Sonar Kollektiv Orchester RMX) - Rej , which is an already interesting dance track. But, this classical remix with the real pizzicato lines and the feel of a real orchestra is just mind blowing....

     

    best i can do to get a short sample, sorry > http://wsm.serpent.pl/sklep/albumik.php,al...EKTIV-ORCHESTER

     

    As for your question, i'm not a classical music buff, but i grew up listening to it and there's sure power in there... you just got to know where to look and have an open mind ;)

  12. I've also tried Squarepusher - Feed Me Weird Things and Amon Tobin - Bricolage both of them are great.

    From Squarepusher's - Hard Normal Daddy is an icon, do be sure to check it out if you haven't along "Music is Rotted Note", from that album "My Sound" was the soundtrack for my favorite acid trip of all time. And whatever you do, skip the latest album, it's bloody shame.

     

    I love Amon Tobin as well, "Adventures in Foam" under the moniker Cujo is really old, but definately one of his best. For an even hand of jazzy sounds and more convoluted ape-shit crazy drill and bass or whatever "Supermodified" is quite good.

  13. Dunno if Humate counts as 'powerful Goa' but it's certainly melodic and break-ish... Check "3.1 Bedrock Ambient Mix", it's old as hell, but really good.

     

    If you are just looking for something interesting without a beat, find "Subsonic Park", AFAIK "Inner City Codes" is the only album thing out there. Dubby, IDM-ish, trancey type of stuff, top notch.

  14. damn, you should go into politics dude, seriously ! :lol:

    I'm an advertisement copywriter, that's nearly the same these days B)

     

    but since you asked, i shall mention a few tunes i've found interesting in the minimal-something realm:

     

    Hillside - Anders Ilar (sworn)

    Espumante - Funzion (v/a - from sunflowers and papayas)

    The Gate - Sten

    Einmal Liebe Und Zuruck - Boris Brejcha

    Don't trust chief Wiggum - Hardfloor

    ... it's a work in progress...

  15. Along those i've found

     

    What are yours, RAH? :)

    Actually, i've got no idea, i'm still trying to define what would minimal be for the regular non psy-person. At work there's person who really likes minimal, but for the longest time MY personal idea of the whole genre has been really influenced by psy, so it's just now i'm taking a look and seeing what is in there... I could throw a few names, but i would like too keep looking a little deeper and make sure i can contribute something of value to this list before i do that. Thanks for the contributions though, they are definitely a step in the right direction.

  16. marketing comes from market... and in market you find buyers and in buyers you find people actually willing to spend money on it. I'm not saying there isn't a strong market of people world wide consuming the music and the culture very strongly, the thing is it is spread to thin. Hence very few people are actually making enough money to organize a massive communications strategy like the one big labels can (or at least could afford) since the something like Beatles.

    The psy trance effort is very underground even with big names on a world-wide basis and the effort remains viral (which on this day and age is just as just good as anything else, or probably better) the thing is it is taking longer to reach critical mass of widespread acceptance. In order to that, a cultural shift needs to happen. Psytrance needs to become as appealing to the masses... Think about the target audience, traditionally outcasts, hippies, ravers, the party people, the mind-expanders... this is core demographic by no means encompasses a majority of anything. Big bands and big names appeal to a lot of people, psychedelic trance does not, you need to like dance music, you need to like trance and you need to like 'special' trance , without forgetting you need to have some kind of fondness for the ideological roots of the culture that accompanies the music - psychedelia. That's an awful lot of segmentation, i'm afraid and it needs to permate the core of our cultural values slowly. If popular culture deems it an interesting experiment they can assimilate then it will become mainstream, if it doesn't, we'll remain underground.

     

    hope that made any sense, i'm not too sure myself.

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