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    Psynews Contest: Voting thread

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    votes

     

    1: Colin OOOD & Goa Travellers - 100 Billion Neurons

    2: Xenofish - Made Out Of Stars

    3: Fiery Dawn - Kundalini

    4: Mellow Sonic - Psychokinesis

    5: BlackStarrFinale - Siege Of Phobos

    6: One Arc Degree - The Tree Maiden (feat. Georgia Irakli)

    7: The Mule - Numinous

    8: Imba - Serbian 604 Revolution

    9: Phobium - Orbital Resonance

    10: Veasna - Termination Shock

    Psynews Contest: Voting thread

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    How fair is that if people just come to vote for their one favourite artist? If you ask me, voting and listening should take at least some effort.

    I agree about this. There is enough good stuff that even picking the best 10 among them is hard enough.

     

    Also, my honest vote could probably look like I'm trying to help my friends in this contest. I can assure in advance that I will try my best to give a vote reflecting my personal taste in music alone.

    Music like FLA without the screaming vocals

    in Other Electronica

    Posted

    This is exactly the kind of stuff I am constantly looking for. What I've found so far:

     

    Tonikom ... for sure heavily inspired by the FLA sideprojects.

     

    5F-X ... this is very alien and sometimes quite noisy but they have some of the finest breakbeat industrial you can get:

     

    Geomatic ... just check out this track, goosebumps:

     

    Mind.in.a.box ... I personally loved and will always love their "dreamweb" album. It has no growly vocals, but is very intelligent and futuristic, cliché-free synthpop that sure has a lot of FLA and Trance influences:

     

    Haujobb ... very similar to FLA, they have good and not so good tracks IMO but still worth checking:

     

    You might be familiar with this but there is also an excellent remix album by Aural Planet which is in parts really far into industrial territory:

     

    thats about all i got :)

    Recent attempts at fusionning Trance and Psytrance

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    Good suggestions!

     

    Here are 2 of my favorites. Fantastic depth and atmosphere, don't know how "recent". John 00 Fleming and The Digital Blonde are the ones I trust in:

     

     

    I only partially agree with you mars, these boundaries are not necessary, but its always good to have some points of reference when describing music you are looking for as specific as possible. But yeah, it can backfire when people take sticking to a sub-subgenre too seriously and forget to think outside the box. :)

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    Techno

    in Other Electronica

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    Glad you like! These audiowarp guys are amazing, I love anything they did, unfortunately they seem to have disappeared.

     

    The one you discovered is nice too!

     

    I kept looking for similar stuff myself, but there is not much. Really makes me wonder what happened to that old kind of mechanical techno. There is Schranz/Hardtechno but most of the time that is just too fast and too primitive for my taste, with the same rythm over and over and no atmosphere at all. And then on the other side there is the more minimal stuff at around 125BPM that we see a lot in this thread.

    I don't mean any offense saying this, this kind of techno is nice too, but it really is all over the place, any party you go, there are so few exceptions to that sound. I would really like to know what the hell happened to the 90s/early 00s kind of stuff with 140-150BPM. Excellent drive, good groove and still with some room for atmosphere. At some point, it seems to have gone forgotten.

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    Techno

    in Other Electronica

    Posted

    not bad, but not quite the style i'm looking for.

     

    but it still was a great tip. while looking for the track i found this dj set by him and the majority of the tracks exactly the right kind of techno for me (12:00, 18:20!, 35:40, 50:10, 1:01:00) :)

    now i'll only have to look for a tracklist.

     

    it's from 2000, so i slowly get the suspicion that i not only prefer oldschool goa to most newer psytrance, but also prefer oldschool techno to more modern variants ;)

    You got good taste :)

     

    Here is something you might like, one of my favorites... maximal and pumping :)

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    New Psynews Contest

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    Looks excellent! I guess I'll try my luck here. :)

    Considering to give my work-in-progress tracks some polish for this contest. It would probably make more sense to submit a Psybreaks or Psytrance track rather than a Psy-DnB track, right?

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    Creating a new track - how do you begin?

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    I completely see what you mean, I've been in that situation myself often enough, sometimes its just days, but it can also sometimes be weeks or months until I get something right, and my unfinished projects folder is huge. Sometimes it just takes that little spark of inspiration to actually sit through.

    What I was talking about, here's something I posted on a different forum a while ago but it's still what works best for my inspiration in detail:

     

    You'll have to make sure you have time and can be as undisturbed as possible. This means, don't start a track when you got a pressing deadline. I know sometimes making music can be a tempting distraction from stress, but you will feel much better and be much more focused if you get the work out of the way first. Then, a bit obvious but still important to mention: You should be sober when producing. I personally am not that experienced with substances, but some people need it to get some ideas they otherwise wouldn't get. I never produce when I had more than one beer, and I'm sure most of these producers don't produce under the influence but rather get sober before they start working on an actual track.

     

    I talk to myself a lot when producing! :) Might look a little embarassing to outsiders but it can help pretending to have someone to discuss about what to do next for each step. Even better, have some friends who can judge and appreciate what you're doing. If you know someone who is interested in your music, ideally a producer himself, feel free to annoy them with small incremental steps of progress, of course only as long as you're offering them the same in return. Getting positive and helpful feedback is always a good motivation boost to keep working and actually finishing something.

     

    Then I listen. A lot. To almost everything, of course with preferences, but I like to push myself to think outside the box. I have a large digital music collection, then there's youtube, soundcloud, beatport. I have music playing in every possible situation. I'll just admit it: A large part of the ideas I get is inspired by other music, from a wide variety of genres. This is not about theft, but rather about thinking about creative ways to make use of stuff from other genres. For example, a large part of the Hiphop/Jungle music output is based on sampling from other records. Obviously, there's the omnipresent amen break, and there is so much more. Watch this video, if you didn't see it yet. It captures perfectly what I'm talking about, just see how many external samples and ideas went into the creation of The Prodigy's banger "Smack My Bitch Up":

     

    Don't be afraid to listen to your own music, and especially the unfinished stuff. Take your unfinished tracks on the bus or when you go for a walk and listen to that over and over again until it hurts. Over time, I often get a feeling for whats good and whats not so good, and how to continue an unfinished piece, especially when it's about structuring and continuing tracks.

     

    Often when I find something I really like (a synth line, a bass sound, whatever), trying to recreate that certain sound or part is often the key to get creativity flowing. I then ask myself how that kind of sound would fit with another totally different sound. It can really help if you are out of ideas yourself, to just look for remix packs or contests and start with a remix when you can make use of certain predefined elements and just put them together your own way. More often than I want I end up with something completely different that has really nothing to do with the original, but who cares, it got me to producing and finishing something.

     

    And finally, it's all about realizing you're doing something right. This means not only getting positive responses from the people around you, but also appreciating your own accomplishments! Every track is a step upwards in knowledge, and if you learned how to make a certain bass sound for example, it is an amazing achievement! Listen to your older stuff and realize how your sound quality has improved over time, and you'll see it was worth all the effort.

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    Creating a new track - how do you begin?

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    I think you are maybe overanalyzing things. I've been in this situation often enough where I asked myself how to start something and was thinking about the ideal way to start a track.

    eventually I realized its all about inspiration - It starts with one idea, and you build your track around that idea. Then you expand that idea, it develops and grows.

    For example, I start with a bass sound I like, make a simple bassline and start building some patterns, add more and more layers. I could also start with a lead, and construct a climax loop as you called it and reverse-construct my buildup to this.

    The most important thing for me is not to always think three or five steps ahead. Focus on the next small task at hand, the first thing that comes to mind. Sometimes you need to get the dirty work out of the way, such as EQing a bassline, in order to make way for the next creative and more fun task, like sound design or sampling.

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