What stereo do you have?

[Radish6404]

What stereos do you have? My stereo is a Denon PNA 600 Ne with Canton GLE 90 speakers and a Creative Audigy FX soundcard. The sound is very good and detailled for any music. It is also very alive. The Canton GLE 90 are very loud on the Denon PNA 600 Ne, but unfortunatley the amp starts clipping, before the speakers start distording, so I can not listen in dsico volume. The volume is as high ass party volume with 55 percent of the amp power and it isv ery good. I feel the vibrations on my body and on my clothes a lot, the cupboard and the TV are vibrating a lot, also as the floor, but I would like to hear it on disco volume, which would be 80 to 90 percent of the amp. I would like to know what stereos you have.

[abasio]

I no longer have a stereo as I listen to everything on headphones.

I have a Sony ZX707 player, with the balanced output it is big enough to get the best out of decent headphones without the need for an amp.

On the go I usually use the Final Audio A6000 items and at home I recently got a pair of Sennheiser HD 560s open back headphones. I had never owned a pair of open backs before but I really like them for the spaciousness they have on the soundstage.

[Radish6404]

I owned many years ago a Sennheiser HD 500 headphone and was very dissapointed with the details. I sold it on the same day I got it. Even my Sennheiser MX 580 erarphones had more details. For outside I use my Sony Xperia 10 v Smartphone with Sony MDR E8418 earphones I got on ebay. The sound is very good and not much away from the sound of my Canto GLe 90 with my Creative Audigy FX.

[Radish6404]

https://jumpshare.com/s/ZlP7Rn19OncJuZS3vqru

 

Here you can see the abilities of this Denon PNA 600 NE amp. I write this because my speakers are capable of more amp power than this amp has without clipping. Inn this video it is on party volume. Tell me what you think about the sound when I am infront of the speakers? 

 

I would also like to see videos of your stereos at high volume. I spend a lot on my speakers and am very happy with them. Big b$w speakers probably would be better but still my speakers are very loud. I had the choise of KEF, but the seller recommended me the Canton. He sad the bass drivers of the KEF only where passive, don´t know what he meant, but I choose the Canton because of that of the seller. Maybe next year I will buy the next number of amp from Denon in order to be able to listen to my speakers at full volume.

[abasio]

That DENON is a great budget amp that can power those mid range speakers very well, great choices if you have a limited budget and honestly probably as much as you'll ever really need. Buuuuut....if you're really looking for clarity and detail, I wouldn't go for something so warm a pop sounding. For critical listening I prefer something more neutral. I like warm sounding equipment when I want to have fun with the music, but for proper listening sessions, I prefer and neutral headphones or speaker all the way.

[abasio]

7 hours ago, Radish6404 said:

I owned many years ago a Sennheiser HD 500 headphone and was very dissapointed with the details. I sold it on the same day I got it. Even my Sennheiser MX 580 erarphones had more details. For outside I use my Sony Xperia 10 v Smartphone with Sony MDR E8418 earphones I got on ebay. The sound is very good and not much away from the sound of my Canto GLe 90 with my Creative Audigy FX.

E8418? Ouch 😳 

I know they are great for a budget option, but still....if you really want to hear your music, you need something a little more audiophile range than a pair of earbuds that come free with your phone.

I did want to buy the Sony IER-Z1R IEMs but when listening to them, they were only a little better than the FInal Audio A6000s and more than triple the cost, so went with the option that was better for my wallet.

If you're on a bit of a budget but still want a really good sounding IEM for your buck, the Final Audio A5000 are excellent. They're only about 300 euros and they sound like much more expensive gear.

I'd recommend giving and headphones or earphones more than one day to give your ear some time to get used to the sound. It sounds like you've gotten in to gear that bleeds bass right in to you ear, so going to a more refined/detailed sound can be a bit of a shock and sound bad at first, but if you have a bit of patience then you can really get a lot out of some equipment you initially didn't like. 

[Radish6404]

the MDR e848 did not come with the phone, I bought them on ebay used because iwanted goodearphones for my smartphone.They werw expensive earlier and I can´t wear In-Ears, because they block oudside noise and have stepping-sounds. I once tried some In-Ears and it was unbearable for me. There are no normal earphones around nowadays.

[abasio]

They came free with a Sony player I bought in the 90s mate. Great for a freebie at the time, but in 2025 if this is your reference, then I cannot take anything you say about audio fidelity seriously. 

[abasio]

I just checked, they were released as a budget pair in 1995 😲 

They sometimes go for stupid money on eBay because they're so old and nostalgic. 

But they're not good to put in your ears mate. If you have a bit of money, please try something new.

[Radish6404]

Wel I know audio phidelity since i have acerative Audigy FX soundcard and Canton GLe 90 speakers, you should check reviews of the so you see that they are audiophil.

Also they are confortable  and bit enoughin my opinion. I can´t war in-ears that produce stepping noises and isolate completely from theenvironment.

[Radish6404]

12 hours ago, abasio said:

That DENON is a great budget amp that can power those mid range speakers very well, great choices if you have a limited budget and honestly probably as much as you'll ever really need. Buuuuut....if you're really looking for clarity and detail, I wouldn't go for something so warm a pop sounding. For critical listening I prefer something more neutral. I like warm sounding equipment when I want to have fun with the music, but for proper listening sessions, I prefer and neutral headphones or speaker all the way.

Well, for 320 € it should be a bit louder. It should not limitate at 55 percent, but go up to 80 percent without clipping, when the soundcard is at a volume of 50 percent.

[Radish6404]

And, also, abasio. you should never be against t e Sony MDR e848 earphones. Only the cheap Sony like the Sony MDR e828 and E829 do not sound very good, but the MDR e848, which were not very cheap at the time they were nw sound very good. They have a lot of detail and a very good Bass, which can be very deep, if the track has a very deep Bass. TI ebabled the DSEE Sound Enhancer on my phone and the Basss is very deep and hard, better than on my Canton GLe 90 speakers, which cost 1200 € the pair.

[abasio]

I'm afraid that doesn't sound like a great advert for the Canton Speakers. I will definitely not be looking further in to that company if they can't outdo a 30 year pair of cheap earphones. 

Try the Sony IER-Z1Rs if you really want to hear good bass and detail. Or the MDR-Z1Rs if you prefer headphones. On hearing these you will never be able to go back to something like the MDR- e848s

THen again, it's probably better advice NOT to try these. Honestly if you are happy with what you've got, there is no point paying tonnes of money for something else. But at the same time, don't go on forums claiming they are the best thing ever and not expect to get roasted 🔥 

[Radish6404]

Well, you don´t have to complain and fight here at all. I have great sound experience with having 2 stereos, one very expensive and one mid-class Panasonic stereo https://geizhals.de/panasonic-sc-pmx802-v70976.html in Bulgaria with great soundcards. I also have heart many speakers and I have not choosen the Canton speakers just because I wanted to spend a lot of money, but because Iheart many, many speakers, some more expensive, with less good quality like B&W. Also, you have not commented on the video. If you would watch it, you would see that theCanton have an extremly good quality. Well, and the Sony are a little bit better than them, very high quality earphonest. So you do not have to star a fight with me.

https://uploadnow.io/files/pYBCGMk

Here is another video and if you can´t hear the crystal clarity at a volume that makes the windows vibrate, I don´t know.

[abasio]

Not trying to start a fight, I am just curious about how well you regard the MDR- e848s

A decent budget earphones from 30 years ago.

Taste is subjective so I am really interested in why anyone would prefer these over higher end stuff.

[Radish6404]

Well, because they are enough for me. if they are better sounding as my Canton, which get Awards one after another https://www.fairaudio.de/test/canton-gle-90-standlautsprecher/ , and better sounding as my Panasonic

, which get also only 5 stars reviews, and as you can hear , sounds very good, too, than they are fine and alright to me. The problem sits somewhere else for me, and it is the DAC of my Sony smarphone, which is very good, but not as good as my Creative labs FX soundcard. When I have the money however, I will buy the Sony Xperia 1 VI smartphone, which probably has a much better DAC.

[abasio]

Try the Sony DAPs, bulky things but they have decent power to drive fairly demanding headphones without the need for an external amp so is still good for on the go music.

[Radish6404]

40 minutes ago, abasio said:

Not trying to start a fight, I am just curious about how well you regard the MDR- e848s

A decent budget earphones from 30 years ago.

Taste is subjective so I am really interested in why anyone would prefer these over higher end stuff.

And by the way, theehse earphones look superb and very expensive for me.