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Colin OOOD

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  1. Also i am trying to find out wich goa/psy track that first used the now classic "trance gate" effect wich for those who dont know what it is, is an effect that back then was made manually with a ghost midi track in cubase for example, programmed with notes and velocity that affected an audio track, often voices that get chopped up, similar to to the famous side chain effect but with more rhythmical effects, now a days its like the most commonly used effect ever and is available to anyone via presets on VST synths and also on real synthesizers and effect units. Anyone who have a suggestion on early track using this? The usage of the effect is mentioned in the flying rhino article i posted here in general forum to.

    The first trance track I remember hearing that effect on was Jam + Spoon's "Follow Me", back in 1993. It wasn't used on a vocal sample but on a long evolving synth line that provided the main lead in the track. I'm sure it was used in a trance track earlier than that though; it's a technique that has been around for as long as there have been noise gates. For example check out the 1988 William Orbit remix of Hard, by George Clinton's Well Red project.

     

    By the way your description of how this effect was/is achieved doesn't make sense :ph34r:

  2. there is a sound i want to sample but behind it there is an annoying pad....later there is the pad alone without any sounds...is there a way to remove the pad? like (sound + pad) - (only pad) = sound...is it possible?

    Yes, it's possible... you might never remove the whole thing but you can get a long long way with care.

     

    To do this I would use a combination of brutal EQ and Sound Forge with the Sonic Foundry Noise Removal plugin as an offline process, although you can also use other noise-removal plugins in whatever host you like. I use Sound Forge because it makes it easy to do repeated passes, as described below.

     

    Firstly EQ out the top and bottom frequency ranges of the sound. I would suggest Waves Q6 with all bands set to hi- or low-pass at exactly the same frequency. When all the bands are set the same you can just drag the control point on the frequency graph and it will move all the bands together. You can either use a spectrum analyser to identify the unneeded frequency ranges or move the EQ up (or down) until you hear it affecting the sound you want to keep, at which point you should back it off a bit.

     

    Next comes the removal of the pad itself. Use the plugin to take a noiseprint of the solo pad, then apply that noiseprint to both the sound you want to clean up, and the solo pad (I'm assuming you know what I mean here; if you don't you should read the help file that comes with the plugin). Use Mode 3 and switch 'keep residual output' on to hear the noise you're removing, and juggle the 'Noise Bias' and 'Reduce Noise by' sliders to make sure you're removing as much of the pad as possible without also removing the wanted sound - make sure you switch 'keep residual output' off before you apply the plugin though! Set attack and release to their highest settings to make sure the plugin reacts quickly to the audio. Don't worry if you only seem to be removing a little of the noise - once you've done this once, keep repeating the process on the newly cleaned audio, taking a new noise-print from the solo pad (which must also be processed with the noise removal plugin, otherwise the noise-prints won't match!) each time. Keep going until you can't remove any more noise without damaging the sound more than you want to. Some damage is inevitable but it can sound really interesting :)

     

    After you've removed as much noise as you can, you can then gate the wanted sound. Especially with vocal samples this can help clean up the gaps between words even more, and if you use Waves RVox for this you can also boost the level of the wanted sound at the same time. RVox works with all kinds of sounds, not just vocals, so experiment, but remember it's an expander not a true gate, and so works fairly gently in this regard. Its compressor is killer though. Other gates can also be used very effectively so if RVox doesn't do it for you, try another. Be careful not to remove too much of the start and end of the sound.

     

    As an example of this technique, if you have heard the title track on OOOD's album 'Free Range', listen for the vocal samples after the first main section. These originally had quite loud music behind them in a totally different key to the track we were writing, and you can still hear this a little bit when the voice is speaking, where - along with the inevitable noise reduction artifacts - it adds a wierd atmosphere to the samples that we quite liked.

     

    Hope this helps... good luck! :)

  3. Ehhhh....i recall you also have this project called voice of cod. nope. the one's never been booked overseas.... :rolleyes:

    I predict colin will have a solo project one of these days...I'm waiting.

    New York has been very good to us it's true - and thankyou so much! - but even so it's a pretty rare thing for any of the projects I'm involved in to travel to play.

     

    Solo project - I keep trying but what can I say, I'm a collaborative kinda guy. Watch this space though, you never know... mind you if I ever get round to it there's no guarantee whatosever it will by psytrance...

  4. I don't hate any artists but I do like one in particular a little less after he stole Ryo's hash when his back was turned, when we were sitting together backstage at a festival this summer. I got some of it back though.

  5. Just reading your signature, Colin, and do you think you've played enough festivals this year? Oh, to be a musician, always on the road, all the drugs, the women, music forever playing. What a life you must lead...

     

    P.S. Please don't ruin it by telling me it's hard work with little to no thanks and no drugs and no women, let me keep the illusion.

    It's hard work but mostly a lot of fun, and you do get thanked. It's not all roses though - there being 4 of us means we don't get as many bookings overseas (which means we can be fairly exclusive for those festivals that DO book us - Boom, are you listening? :clapping: ) and any fee has to be split 4 ways. As of right now I've just been paid from my job (only part-time), and after paying my rent I have literally the £7 in my pocket to my name.

     

    Don't follow my example if you need a high daily calorie intake to survive.

  6. OOOD - brittish-charming, very smart, good sense of humour, cool guys, .. and hot! Very nice guys, very sociable, they have been the center of the attention in the backstage area that night. If they have nothing to do, they just invent stuff, like various games during which they crack a lot of jokes and silly remarks that brings up good mood.

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    Moni & Ryo and Rama from OOOD, and a hackeysack :D We had Philipe (Sensifeel) playing with us too that weekend.

     

    If there was a thread about which cool psytrance fans artists had met, Moni would be somewhere at the top of my list.

  7. also, when I had a chat online with Ott and told him I did not enjoy his music, he got very aggro towards me... I think maybe he has the geo problem as well?

    Why did you chat to him online if you don't like his music? You don't know him personally so what the fuck is the point of seeking someone out on the internet just to tell them you don't like what they do? Do you do that to everyone who does something you don't like, or do you just do it to musicians, so you can get off on their reaction? Does doing that make you feel good? Does it give you a woody to know that you've ruined someone's day - and is your woody all the harder because you know you've ruined the day of someone that many people respect? I bet you feel like a real rebel when you do that - on the edge, uncontrollable, wild, "I can do anything!"

     

    May your wood turn to water. Leave this place.

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