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    Suntrip Records on Spotify.

    in General Psytrance

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    Yes, that's my only message. I don't want anyone - neither Suntrip or their fans - to leave Spotify, because indeed it's very convenient and likely a very good promotional tool. But you can't call yourself a serious supporter of the label and its artists if you only listen to their releases via Spotify, thinking that your monthly fee is an adequate compensation. It's just not.

     

    BTW, anyone have a writeup of how Spotify's reimbursements for labels / artists are calculated?

    I hear you. I'm myself sick and tired of all the hassel related to digital downloads. Encoding/downloading/unzipping/adding to library/syncing/ PLUS dealing with limited storage space AND shitty softwares. Also, as much as I like bandcamp, their streaming app is simply awful. A solution would be to buy an album from bandcamp (you own the album and you significantly support the people involved) but actually listen to it via a streaming service for conviniency and extra support. However, you ultimately support an exploitative system and ethically, this choice is hard to defend. That being said, you still are supporting TWICE (digital download + streaming) so yeah, hard choices. Point is, if you make that kind of accomodation and decide to support the likes of spotify, you can't just shit all over it. You have to recognize its benifits even though it's far from perfect.

    http://www.indigoboom.com/single-post/2016/06/28/What-Does-Spotify-Pay-Artists

    Suntrip Records on Spotify.

    in General Psytrance

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    That's all great in theory, but Suntrip is no Taylor Swift - Spotify wouldn't even notice them vanishing from there. Their "fans" however, would. If people claim to be so conscious about social issues, environment, etc. they should spend some time understanding how and if their money support the artists.

    "a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step"

     

    I guess what I'm saying is preach by exemple. If one wants change, first he must be that change. People won't cancel their subscription tomorrow noon because some indie label pulled off of spotify, we all know that. On the other hand, one can engage discussions (like this one) and sensitize people on the consequence of their actions. On the long term, THIS can make a difference. And I agree with you, people in general should be more aware as of where their money goes.

    Suntrip Records on Spotify.

    in General Psytrance

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    Our Spotify revenue is a joke. From my chair, I can hear the Spotify guys laughing at us all....

    Don't like their service? Just don't use it. People complain about being ripped off but they're first in line to bite the apple. I know the music industry (generally speaking) as it is today is unfair but unless labels stand up for what they believe in and stop feeding the beast, the situation will not get any better. Next step: ethical streaming services. We have a long way to go...

    Suntrip Records on Spotify.

    in General Psytrance

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    Is Suntrip getting any money from Spotify, though? Considering how many music there is, I'd expect Suntrip to - at best - get few cents per album / per listener, if that.[/quote}

     

    If they're on, they do. However, I'm guessing it's probably not much, but enough so they have a steady (but small) income from their catalogue.

     

     

    Why would anyone claiming to be supporting the label and its artist use Spotify to listen to their music? Unless they already bought the releases elsewhere, but prefer Spotify for convenience.

     

     

    Because they are right. They are supporting the label but not to the same extent as they would do on bandcamp. More and more I see electronic musicians recommending spotify to their fans in that it's apparently the best streaming platform when it comes to royalties to artists. Again, Bandcamp is, by far, the best way to support artists and fair trade music. I guess that's why many psytrance labels release their albums as timed exclusives on bandcamp. Once sales begins to decline (meaning when we, hardcore fans, have already paid the full price for the album), we usually see the albums ending up on major platforms. Why? Because it's the only way their releases can still be profitable on a "regular" basis. So yes, streamers still are supporting labels. Plus, as Penzoline pointed out, it's good visibility for the label.

    Ajja - Spira Mirabilis [TIP Records]

    in 2017

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    Tried to get into this release but simply could not. It no doubts sounds superb but aside from the floydian guitar licks on the last track (which I'm not a fan of in this context), I simply fail to recall anything from my 4+ listens.

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    The metal thread

    in Other Electronica

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    People who do not like depressive music or are prone to depression, please dont listen. The vocals sound like a dying dog dying while its vocal cords are being cut with a razor blade very slowly.

    Been listening to some dark underground shit for well over a decade. But this, this one is something else. I bought the cd when it came out on prophecy productions and I can testify what Themaniac said; the sheer negativity displayed here is simply unmatched.

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