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you're right..it could just be me and my skills/technique...but ive just finished a years worth of audio engineering school and everything i learned cant really be applied in reason..the compressors and eq units are junk, even the delay units could use a little quality control...so in the end i always have sit there and bounce every single individual track (rewire just bogs down my computer too much) and then import all the files into digital performer or something and apply eq and compression from there...i mean it works, i can't complain, but yeah....its not that i dont have other programs...i have cubase SX, ableton live, and digital performer, and even use pro tools when i can get my hands on a friend's m-box or the schools HD system, but for some reason theres one part of every program that isnt compatible with my soundcard (emagic soundcard, so no ASIO, so no cubase SX, etc....) but anyways, will be getting the MOTU 828MKII end of october so ill see if things change.... anyways, thanks for everyone's feedback, good to know i'm not the only one thats feels the way i do about reason...its a love - hate relationship... peace

the article on liam i read was on the propellerheads website, and of course, because it's reason's website, im sure they twisted a lot of what he said to make the interview another good advertising source for them...but anyways, it did make it clear that liam just got to the point where he had too much hardware gear and he didnt know where to start, so he looked for something at the opposite end of the spectrum, something much simpler, and he ended up with reason...but yeah, the arrangement and composition was then moved out of reason into protools for mixing and compression, etc... anyways ppl, reason in awsome program but i think a lot of u understand where im coming from...it just lacks energy...u know? every software program has its own "sound," and unfortunately reason just happens to have this dead sound...its fine if ure making IDM or some ambient stuff where energy and power isnt a factor, but for us psyheads u need the extra push... i have a bunch of tracks (hopefully get them online soon, in the process of making a webpage) and the mix is good, i like the sounds, but even when i play them on club PA systems with 18" subs, theres something missing...that analog punch...so what i usually have to do when i play live is add another layer of drums from my electribe, turn the tube gain up, and then ive got the sounds I want..unfortunately, reason on its own just doesnt cut it.. dont know, just my opinion tho, like i said, im still a fan of reason, just wish they could take one step forward on sound quality.. peace..

haha, cool, someone from switzerland!! um, the track had a lot of vocals..they werent just in a part of the song, the song was actually built around the vocals...and im sure i recognized the vocals from somewhere...its definately a 50s or 60s swing or blues song....mmm..shit...someone told me its GMS but for some reason i really dont think so...anyways, I heard the song on sunday morning at the 3 day party in Hitzkirch LU, where Psysex played live last year some time..although I live in thailand im originally from Zug... anyways, thanks, ill keep searching for the track...

Thanks for the response... I know reason is a great, stable program, and i use it all the time, at home and on stage..I was just wondering how far it'll get me. I mean when I tell people I've made my tracks in reason or actually open the files and show them my 6 mixers, 20 scream units, etc. they're like wow holy shit i didnt know u could do this in reason...i push my creativity to the max everyday to get sounds i like, im just want to know if paying hundreds of bucks for more software and plugins will amount to that much more thant what I already am doing. I have outboard gear (Korg Electribe MX, Korg Kaoss Pad, Roland V-Drums) which I'm beginning to incorporate into studio work rather than just on stage, and it makes a difference already...im just not sure about reason.. anyways i dont know why im so skeptical all of a sudden ive been using reason for the longest time and have never had any complaints...mm..maybe it'd just be reassuring to find out if any of the big acts..not huge but somewhat well known are using reason at all...it shouldnt make a difference, i mean software is like an instrument, if u get to know it well everything falls into place...but still...would be reassuring.. again, thanks, will try to make it over to your site and download some stuff...unfortunately im in thailand and faster connections, although in existance, are really not that much faster...so im stuck with a 56k which i dont even think runs at top speed....this means downloading a 4 mb file takes me sbout an hour..anyways will try my best.. peace

I've been making music for quite some time, been playing regular live sets, even a set in surround sound, all with music done in reason... reason is an amazing piece of software, but somehow i find the only way to get a big "fat" sound. and not the dead, flat sound that reason produces by default, is to export the individual tracks to digital performer or protools and then do the final mixdown in one of those software programs.. i was just wondering if any of you reason users have experienced similar problems and if u know of any professional psy trance produced with reason..i know a lot of people use vst's, but ive experimented enough with the subtractor and malstrom that i can get all the sounds i currently need out of them...i know people like gms and infected use a whole studio full of outboard gear, but other artists like yahel have actually downsized to smaller studios using a program like cubase and other plugins are their main music making source...however...im sure that other, less well known artists who dont have as much financial support have to rely on computers...im just wondering if reason is ever an option for them.. dont get me wrong, but ive heard lots of bad ass music made with reason, hip hop, trip hop, all kinds of stuff..even my own music sounds alright..im just scared that if i stick with reason my music will never go anywhere...has anyone felt the same way or does anyone have any advice?? thanks a lot, abn

hey whats up my fellow psyheads??? i'm a psy trance producer currently residing in bangkok, thailand.....mm..was going to introduce myself but never mind... a while back i was at a party, and u all know how it goes, was too messed to ask someone about it, but i heard this track and it just blew my mind...dont know if it was the actual track or the microdot i just took, but it was this funky, but still full on track with guitars and vocals. I recognized to be an old 60's song (i think) but all the vocal lines had been redone with mad effects and what not... i might just be talking nonsense but im pretty sure thats what i heard...if anyone knows what im talking about and if anyone knows who produced it, i'd be forever thankful.. if it helps at all, the song had a "fear and loathing" vibe to it..made me feel like putting on some crazy sunglasses, lighting a cig, and jumping around like a damn fool.. anyways, enuf said, thanks in advance