Bvan

Diana Krall: "When I Look Into Your Eyes" & "The Look Of Love" in my defence, i'd just like to say that...well....she's hot. that makes it o.k doesnt it?

traveller, yeah i love the 'in dub' album. infact ott's lsd remix is one of my all-time favourite tracks. but what i love about it is all but absent in the original: the sickest most melodic high-speed broken bass-line i've ever heard. has me playing air-guitar on my imaginary double-bass! b.

thanks for the replies. its given me a bit more insentive to perservere with both albums. i always find it helpfull and interesting to read what other people see in any particular album or song or even movie. reading reviews seems to let me see the work from a perspective that might otherwise have escaped my attention. i also find that expecting great things from a track or album that youve read lots of good things about helps, not so much because it sways opinion, but because you tend to then enter into the listning experience with more attention, and because of this this music will always move you more. if you know what i mean. and it does bother me if i feel i'm missing something, like i think it should if one couldnt access beethoven or pink floyd. not that every popular or critically aclaimed band needs neccessarily to be concidered 'good'. popular approval and artistic greatness are often mutually exclusive as we all know. and everyone being different, everyone should have different favourites. never the less, if one cant appreciate a particular artist, or particulary a genre of music, its seldom the case that its because there is no artistic merit in that genre, but more often and almost always the case that it is because of some childish stigma that we have against it. i mean childish in the sence that it is often resultant from a particular experience in early life that we no longer have a conscious awareness of. for example, i didnt eat brockolli till i was 18 years old, not because it was inherently unpleasent or that my constitution fundamantally changed on reaching majority, but rather that not enjoying it was a reaction against being forced to eat it when i was young. luckilly i grew out of that. my point in all this is just that i dont think any of us should stop at the relitively few artists or genres we think we like. not being able to expand our fields of interests is selling ourselves short of a lot in this life. while i will always dismiss some 'artists' out of hand, i'll persevere with hallucinogen and encourage others to persevere with beethoven. cheers b.

After reading yet another thread on Hallucinogen and starting to wonder if there might be something wrong with the way my brain is wired i thought i'd post to see if i'm the only one that doesnt really enjoy hallucinogen. I'm not trying to start a flame was or anything, i'm not saying its not great music, just that i cant access it. the strange thing is that i find shpongle devinely inspired. of my about 60 psytrance, 50 classical, 80 jazz and 400 rock albums i think any of the three shpongle albums would make my top 3 albums off all time. i dont understand how another project from the mind of the same man can leave me so underwhelmed. I admit i've never heard twisted or lone deranger while being, well, twisted, and maybe this is the problem. most of my music is more progressive psy as opposed to full-on, being the type of music i find better suited to quiter evening home listens on a good stereo. listning to lone deranger as i type and trying to give it another chance, i can say that there are many technically interesting bits to be found, but the music doesnt move me. it doesnt rock or make me want to dance. the bass doent have too much drive to it i find, and the melodies seem very dischordand and off-key, sometimes unpleasent. i know this is a desired effect sometimes and can be interesting in the right frame of mind. i'm wondering isf anyone else feels the same, or if peole who really enjoy the album could put it in words what they like about it. i'm genuinely wanting to get to enjoy it as much as most of you do. long live mr posford, b.

i might be alone in this, but i've been thinking of deleting about 80 albums i have ripped from friends at 320kb/s to make room on my hard drive for other things, without burning them to cd-r first. i have got to a stage where i dont listen to anything on mp3, only original cd or cd-r's burnt from AIFF or WAV at 1x speeds. you probably think i'm a loony audiophile, but to me the whole idea of compressed music has become totally anathema. apart from how poor any mp3 sounds on a good hifi, the idea of artists going to great lengths to produce a well recoreded and minimally compressed album only to have me though away 80% of the info on the disk seems almost disrespectfull. and if i'm going to sit down for 70 minutes to listen to and album that probably took a good year to make, i dont concider it undue effort to spend 15 seconds putting the cd into the player or the vinyl on the deck. thats just how i see it. maybe you cant hear the difference between 320kb/s mp3 and the original on your hifi/headphones, thats fine by me, but i think its good if some of us make a stand againt lossy compression formats. if all music was bought and stored in compressed formats, and then you make a compressed copy of your mates compressed copy, you can imagine what quality most music will end up being listened to at. and then there will be little incentive for artists like shpongle or IM to take the efford to make well recorded music in hte first place. if youre in any doubt that youre throwing away musical content that was carefully and deliberately put there by the artist, please do yourself a favour and go to a decent hifi shop with a copy of 'tales of the inexpressible' and see what you are missing. cheers b.

p.s whats a sample cd?

nice! actually i have a lot of those already (blumenkraft, lone deranger, headcleaner,koxbox, juno reactor, son kite) but that is about half of my collection. all very good music that, which i never bought for the sound quality at all. (though i must confess 'lone deranger' is one album i've never been able to get into ) i also rate shiva chandra audio(and music) wise. and haldolium which i'm listning to now i'm noticing that most of these are of the minimal/progressive bent? maybe i just dont buy enough of the full-on stuff, or maybe simpler the arangements the less tendency there is to compress the life out of it? off the topic, but do you know if there are any threads where members discuss what other (non electronic) music they are into? i'm going through one of those expanding-my-music-horizons type of phase, and the libraries here in denmark where i'm visiting at the moment have more music than hmv and virgin in tottenham court rd, combined. i kid you not. their psy trance catalogue is a bit underdeveloped admitedly, but at least they have some. cheers all. b.

ya, ek se. shot for the speedy replies, will get on it. keep em comming! b.

howzit. i'm looking for some recomendations for some good albums(musically speaking) that are also extremely well recorded. i'm kinda new to psy trance, well not really but i got a pretty small collection, so any old classics as well as new stuff will do. of the stuff i got i recon classical mushroom and the shpongle albums are impressive. as my hifi gets better i'm finding myself gravitating to the better recorded stuff which i dont know is a good thing? its a bit of a double-edged sword having a highly revealing system as it makes great albums like talpa's 'art of being non' get less play cheers for any input bevan