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    Pioneer CDJ-100 vs CDJ 200

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    Haha Basilisk is convincent, but on the other hand I only see CDJ-100's out on the streets... so I ask myself if anything better is really worth the money.

     

    All trance festivals only have 100's.

    Solaris, Full Moon, VooV... All top raves in Brazil..

     

    So I will change the focus on the topic:

     

    Should I spend extra on a GOOD mixer?

     

    Basilisk, I accept recommendations *anything below 300 USD in the US*

    Pioneer CDJ-100 vs CDJ 200

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    Alright.. I've decided I will go for the CDJ-100s.

    It's 200 bucks cheaper (100 on each deck).

     

    Do any of you guys have any recommendation on MIXERS?

     

    I'm looking for a 2-channel mixer, hopefully with beat counter.

    The counters aren't always precise, but I believe they can come in handy for a beginner.

     

    Opinions? Suggestions for a mixer?

     

    The DJM-300 are about 270 US-dollars.

    DJing

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    Pioneer CD decks are standard - don't fuck around with anything else. Get something with a good pitch resolution - anything but the 100 these days (they're being phased out).

     

    For a mixer, you can start with a cheapo 2-chan, just make sure there is some EQ to work with (low-mid-high). A cue knob is quite handy to learn as well. Essentially its where you can listen to two channels in the headphones, but have a knob to control how much of each.

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    So the 200's are worth it for the pitch resolution? You've played with them?

    Any cheap 2 chan mixers you recommend with a cue-knob?

    I'd appreciate being able to listen to 2 channels on the headphones. Perhaps could be a good tool to learn beat matching.

     

     

    LOL

    so true! Especially from Ego deejays, organisers that are wasted, club owners that forget to pay you and Kids on pills requesting skazi!

     

    :lol:

     

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    Man.. psytrance has started to grow now in Brazil - I mean, it's becoming POPULAR! - so DJs get requests to play Infected Mushroom's I WISH (Skazi rmx) every single party and probably many times..

     

    Daaaaaaaaaaamn!!!! :P

    Pioneer CDJ-100 vs CDJ 200

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    In about 4 hours I couldn't match beats properly (after opening both channels and letting them play together for a few seconds they start to overlap...)..

     

    I'm not saying I don't like quality. As you said. Pitch/Beat matching is a basic need for ANY DJ. No matter if he/she plays low-class psy or picks house or hip hop. It's a must.

    If you can't match.. you can't say you're a DJ.

     

    But I'm talking about the very beginning.

    Where I don't intend to do it perfectly.

     

    My goal is to mix well enough to play at small parties, enjoying myself and playing well enough so that the crowd won't miss a step on their dancing, and the non-pros won't tell I might have missed a kick.

     

    So basically I'm about learning the very basic so I can use the knowledge to motivate myself and dive in head first on mastering the technique the best possible way. Play like a real PRO.. But it should be hard to just practice and practice. So I want to be able to perform, feel the crowd and learn with my own mistakes.. see my failures and perfect them at home...

     

    But that takes practice, practice and a lot of experience. I would say at least 2-3 years of constant practice to become what my goal is.

    A GOOD DJ, even if just as a hobby.

     

    I believe I'll go for the CDJ 100 for now and then.. well.. "in the long term we'll be all dead" (Keynes)

    Pioneer CDJ-100 vs CDJ 200

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    Who the hell cares about mp3s anyway? Ignore that feature, I do.

     

    Any DJ worth hearing will surely recognize what good a greatly increased pitch resolution is. Need I explain why it is worth the money?

     

    The downsides... the CDJ-200 is actually not as well made as the 100. It isn't as sturdy. The pitch control is sticky in spots - a mark of low quality. You can be trying to get 0.72 and always end up at 0.70 or 0.74 until you hold it down and really force it to be in the middle there. That sucks. Everything feels cheap and plastic, especially the jog wheel. It may look pretty with those new blue lights but the 200 isn't the workhorse the 100 is. I've seen a 100 that accidentally caught fire still in use at parties, melted knobs and everything. I don't think the 200 would last five seconds.

     

    That being said I did sell my 100s and pick up 200s because I am making mixes at home, and 0.1% pitch resolution totally sucks. It's a trade-off.

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    So you're saying the only good thing about the 200's is the pitch resolution.

    I sort of agree on that, but I just TRIED to match a few tracks on a pair of CDJ-800 my brother owns.

     

    For a beginner with enough cash to buy any of them is the 100 extra-dollars on each deck actually worth it because of the MP3 feature (I'll be PRACTICING at home, few CDs, loads of tracks) and the pitch resolution?

     

    You must consider that I can sell them FAST and with PROFIT (at least 20% I'd say) in Brazil if I want to upgrade to other deck or simply buy the workaholic CDJ-100s.

    DJing

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    I don't like Pioneer mixers :( they're so expensive.

     

    I left my mixer in Cape Town so I'm going to get a Behringer for over here :)

     

    CDJ 100s are cool. They are like the SL 1200's of cd-players. Most clubs and parties I've played at have them.

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    You don't like them because they're expensive or because they're actually bad products?

    Which Beringher/Numark mixers are similar to the DJM-300s and are cheaper?

     

    DJM-300s costs 270 USD

    DJing

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    All the parties, raves and this one festival I've been to in Brazil.. All I have seen is Pioneer CDJ 100's..

     

    And I'm speaking of Raves for 3000-12000 people. Artists such as Infected Mushroom, Bizarre Contact, Ticon, Talamasca, GMS, Astrix, Sub6, Psysex..

     

    When you think about it you might think CDJ100's are old, etc, but I guess it suits the good artists as well even though they're quite old.

     

    I really want to buy my equipment, but prices in Brazil are too expensive.

    I need to import them from the US.

     

    I want to get a pair of Pioneer CDJs. Either the 100 or the 200.

    And for mixing A Pioneer DJM 300s.

    Headphones either the Sony MDR V700 or the Technics DJ1200.

     

    Suggestions? Opinions?

    This should add up to 1200 USD which I can afford now that I finally graduated.

    VOOV 2005

    in International Multi-Day Festivals

    Posted

    Hey peeps - hope you all make the most of it - we sold our Voov tickets on to others at Full Moon as the quagmire of mud at the end was quite hideous getting a 7 ton bus out of - and it was COLD - so see everyone at Sonica.

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    News on VooV?

     

    See you at Sonica, Squaffy ;)

    Sonica Fest (4aug-8aug 2005)

    in International Multi-Day Festivals

    Posted

    Hey sonica is the biggest this year so im sure it will be the best..im going...:)

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    I already decided.

    Check the other topic "Who's going to Sonica?".

     

    I'll be there.

    I really mean it.

    I WILL be there hahah you will fine me, the crazy dancer with a beer can in a hand and a Gudang Garam in the other!!!!

     

    PUTA QUE PARIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!

     

    B)

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