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Well, the discussion is interesting.
I was hoping to see more top5's than debate though.
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I don't create competition. I just do some calculations.what's wrong you you?
I guess whith that bitchy attitude of yours, it won't really motivate people to participate and express individual opinions.
I never spoke about getting high with drugs, I never said it was stupid to do it either and I never said people that do it are stupid .. I just made apoint about how a lame we are to folow the system and not create our own rules.
There is a BIG difference.
Nothing wrong with that, then why not make it : the cds you enjoyed the most instead of "The Top 5 whatever"... I guess you believe creating competition is good..I don't.
I can't believe I just read that.... But one again I disagree,...Psytrance is ALL about spiritualitty, trippng and going to party to share it....
All the "Best of....", "Top 10" and other non sens are from and for the pop start showbizz industry.
The psytrance scene was never about "top 10" and "I wanna be number #1" but freedom of the mind and counciousness through music.
Unfortunately for people like you... Yes, I do.
And...to quote you again "First thing to make everyone happy" would be to let them speak freely and respect their opinion and as you said it: there is suppose enough room for that.... Very contradicting sentence here where you first tell me that I should not be so exclusive and yet that people should be free to express their opinion. That is pure bull-shit, just like most of the psytrance scene nowdays with the star wannabe and top ten shit and formated music.
Beeing an economist is not an excuse...sorry. I think you narrow minded and your attitude is really not what I was expecting
Open mind, freedom and difference are values we do NOT share.I don't tell you what to do, what you should do, or how you should be. Read my post again, objectively.
I accept your opinnion even if i disaggree, but i have nothing more to add, i've made my point and it stands. Sorry.
I'd like to tell you just this: PSYNEWS is not the whole psychedelic culture and scene, PSYNEWS is basically a website. Websites contain information.
Oh, the "i'm an economist" thing was not an excuse, it was said on a humorous note. I'm quite proud of my profession.
If you check the results of the "Best of 2005" exercise, you will see that the chart has 2 columns of numbers: one is with SCORE (the sum of the 1,2,3,4,5 points resulted from the top5's), and 1 with VOTES (1 mention means 1 vote).If it was up to me, however, I would just collect people's unranked top 5 CDs, assigning 1 point each, and then only rank them in the final group collected list.
Pedro
I did it both ways, and i intent to keep both systems this year as well.
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Thanks, moni.
Is that that same friend you had way back when? I recall you had an artist friend some years ago.
Yeah, yeah
I forgot i told you about her already...!
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Nice
I should introduce you to my artist friend in Switzerland, you'd find her intersting for sure.
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The stats say that I haven't been on IRC in 4 months. Wow
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Topic has been moderated, 17 off topic posts have been deleted.
Please stick to reviewing the album.
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I remember being in a festival, dancing, drinking. I stopped to chat to somebody when a Benefactor track got played. I was like WOW, first familiar track in this party. And stopped chatting and went to dance. It was perfect.
Then last summer, at Ozora, i was laying in the grass, listening to a DJ spinning prog trance. At some point, she put a Tegma track, from the "Around the world in 80 mins" album. It didn't seem to fit with the previous track, and ruined the flow for me. But the Tegma track is good, i like the whole album.
Then Peter Didjital spinned and at some point he put Zen Mechanics - Environmental Porn, and i stopped dancing cause something was bugging me: I know this track but who's track is it? The name was sitting on the tip of my tongue, but couldn't quite say it. It was a bit annoying for a few seconds.
It's a bit tricky.
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... as we have all notice especially to this best of poll, there are many votes for some artists/psynews users..( jikkenteki, oood) and i wonder how valid can be this poll when the same time these guys have some good friends here ...i mean i don't have nothing against jikkenteki for example, (probably we will c him in top 3 cd's) but it has very interest to check and some other polls from other forums/sites if has the same success to votes as well. let's c.
My opinnion on this issue. It's very simple.
Jikkenteki and Colin OOOD's presence on this forum means more votes for them simply because of 3 (or maybe more) reasons:
1. Their music is probably good.
2. They have the chance of freely promoting their music here, nobody is stopping them. There are many cases of artists promoting their music here, offering live mixes for us to download, etc.
3. Artists interracting with listeners online means nothing but publicity for the artist, generally good publicity, especially when the artist is an interesting and honest person and he/she can get the forum members' attention and positive reactions, even in music listening, if it's good.
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My first experience of this was many years ago
I was sleeping whilst listening to some chillout CDs on a CD changer.
I remember having the most vivid psychedelic dreams, especially as I was close to waking. My mind took me to dimensions never before travelled. As I woke up my mind exploded into a thousand pieces then jigsawed itself back together. The track at that time was The Infinity Project - The Answer
Since then I have had the experience numerous times
most recently with
Ishq
Deviant Species
Carbon Based Lifeforms
&
Blue Planet Corporation
they find their way into the slepp dimension & work their magic
what does it for you?
Sadly, i can't sleep if i hear something. Meaning it has to be quiet for me to be able to fall asleep.
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1. oood - free range
2. va - acropolis avenue
3. salakavala - fractal fishing
4. va - lime light 2
5. voice of cod - we are free
Mike, VoC is from 2005, we had it in our chart last time.
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Wow.
Nice one, Moni. 
No, I'm pretty sure I've pissed off some people.
In my defence, I'd like to say that in real life i'm an economist.
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Ask yourself: what good does it do to the scene?
Top "whatever" have been created by the system to sale more.... no freedom, no pleasure, no meaning.... definitely a marketting/sale sh*t that has nothing to do in psychedelic culture in my opinion. ... I guess that's why people loose interest, they bored of beeing the system puppets. A top whatever in psychedelic culture is a joke as it creates difference, and instead of uniting people in 1 trip, it divides them in useless / non tripping debats; arguing for nothing instead of enjoying themself, music and the present moment...
We ALL make fun of the real top 50 , the crap and crooked system that uses it BUT we make our own, it sadely kind of shows how fuck up are the values in the trance scene
Once again, in my own opinion. But all the top whatever looks like they got very few participant this year, on most of the forums I visited. Maybe more people share my point of view after all
It's always sweet when people have feelings and a heart, and they find "freedom, pleasure, meaning" in music and in the "psychedelic culture", and nothing else matters except "tripping as 1" and living in a pink world. I'd like to tell you though that also many people listen to psytrance because they like the music, the melodic idea/line, the effects, the samples, the "chemistry", and it's unfair to unapprove people that don't feel the "spirituality" the way you do. But nevermind this, it's not the point.
We have a brain also for thinking, not just for tripping. Some people find it stimulating to see how the scene evolves, which are the best rated artists on various sites. Some people like to see which subgenres dominate the charts (maybe even the scene) every year, and which labels do well in their activities.
Some people like to get recommendations on what to listen/buy by using our tops (i know people that used the 2006 tops to buy CDs and thanked us). Some people like to EXPRESS what are good releases in their opinnion, and they like to see if their tastes in music are shared by others as well.
If we go by your "spiritual" mentality, then we shouldn't have REVIEWS either? Just like charts, reviews have the purpose of putting up or down a release, and it may even influence the number of its sales and the number of listeners.
Psychedelic scene may be an underground scene, but it is still a scene, and a big one may i add. This means there is TRADE, we trade products and services for money. We buy releases, tickets to parties, artists, labels, organisers offer us music, gigs, shows. These are all involving MONEY, and that cannot be denied. The basic rules of the psychedelic trance scene are the same as the ones of any commercial scene. No money means no psychedelic scene. My conclusion is that there is more to the existence of a scene (commercial or non-commercial) than just spirituality and tripping, and going to Goa to party.
I don't see how a "BEST OF 2007" thread can ... let me quote you... "create difference, and instead of uniting people in 1 trip, it divides them in useless / non tripping debats".
If you wanna get high on drugs and trip on psychedelic trance, nobody is stopping you. Nobody is trying to make you buy more, or less, or influence you in your musical taste. This chart is purely just an exercise, a conclusion of our members' activity in 2006. We mean no harm, no stress for anyone, we don't force people to post in this thread.
Do you have to be so exclusivist? There is enough room for both brain and heart on this forum, and we're trying to make everyone happy here.
Thanks for your support.
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So moni, when is the closing of voting and final announcement ?
Well, 1st February 2007 - closing of voting
Around 15th February - results
Sadly, this year we don't have so many participants. Maybe i'm wrong though. I hope so! There's still 9 days left!
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But they can't deny that an adult with the intelligence of a baby is stupid. Objectively. They can come up with however much shit they like about relative intelligence - it doesn't matter.
Oh god.
Cinos, you're hopeless.
How about this? An adult with the intelligence of a baby (Down syndrome) is normal for a person that suffers of Down syndrome.
Your warning stands strongly.
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For now I can suppose that they are still reviewing/listening CDs, until 1st of February.
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The thread got locked... I guess too many indians were posting in that thread?
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dear monica,you 're right TOOL is a rock band,i think it's the best rock band of our times,some ppl characterize them as the real sons of pink floyd and i agree 100%...So,to make things clear for you lovely monica,the best album of the year for me is not a psy-trance album and because you are a clever giRl u understand that it's "10.000 days" by TOOL...
if u listen to them carefully,u will understan that TOOL is much much much more psychedelic than any "psy-trance" project lately...
Lovely Agia!
I got your point, TOOL is your favourite band for 2006. Noted.
Trance and rock are 2 different music genres though.
Please post your TOP5 according to the instructions i gave in the beginning of this thread...!
Dear Agia...
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i will paste here some statements of mine from other threads which had the same or similar topic because everything i is said allready but ofcourse i will paste the posts in this thread as well.
Be careful what you paste. You might want to check that text for bad language first, and clean it up if necessary.
Try to avoid getting warnings.
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I like his subtlety (sp?)
I admire how he (for sure) spends hours preparing his reviews, carefully, not to miss any detail.
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Btw agia, the TOOL band i know is a rock band. Which TOOL is the one in your top5? Link?
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oh, my mistake
I change, Symphonix-music prostitute in place of that.
Loopus in fabula: Fat Ladies Bingo (fabula) 4
Manmademan The Legend Remixes(turbo trance) 3
Funland Boogies(Space Boogie) 3
Peace for the Wicked(tantrum) 3
Symphonix-Music Prostitute 2
The numbers are the points they get. I think thats what we are supposed to do totalling the point to 15
No, it's like i wrote in the beginning of this thread.
If i accept your type of chart, next we'll see a forum member giving 5 points to 3 of his favourite releases. That's not the principle of our thread.
Please go to the first post of the thread, which explains clearly how your TOP 5 has to be structured. Thanks!
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"Best of 2006" topic starts today, 1st of January 2007, and it will be on for the whole month!
Have fun! And...
Happy New Year!
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ETHEREAL INTERVIEW (psynews.org)
Artists: Ethereal (Fredrik Haglund & Carl Larsson)
Date: 04-12-06
By: Cosmogenesis
Q/Before to speak about music, can you give us some personal info of yourself in order to know you better? (Name, age, nationality, studies, hobbies or passion…)
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C:
Carl Larsson, age 28, residing in Gothenburg, Sweden, studying informatics. I spend a lot of time outdoors, but I'm also active in the pc demoscene (demowhat? Check www.scene.org for details) and do lots of 2d/3d graphics as well as music.
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Fredrik Haglund, age 29, lurking in Falun, Sweden, studying software development. Beside my interest in music, I also enjoy building scale models of WW2 armoured vehicles and that collection is steadily growing (although the pile of unbuilt ones is growing even faster... hrrrm)
Q/How and when did the Ethereal project really start producing? For which reasons did you originally choose to produce psychedelic trance music instead of another genre?
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F: It was in early 1999 that we started collaborating and created the project when I sent a very early version of the track Shai to Carl. Ha, I still have the IRC-log of our conversation about that test track! Let me check the date… the 4th of Mars, 1999! Ah, the memories! Before that, we’ve both been listening to and enjoying goa for quite some time so it was only natural that we choose that genre to compose in. I remember that Carl borrowed Cosmosis – Cosmology from me somewhere back in 96. I haven’t seen it since
C: What Fred said, except maybe the part on Cosmology. That album really sparked my goa interest, though
Q/ Your two first released tracks, “Fireflies (extended remix)” & “Accessing Infinity (remix)” were both released on the VA/Blissful Moments. How did happen, at that time, the contact with Tranceform records?
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Kalle contacting us was one of many things that happened after the original "Fireflies" became one of the winners in a competition hosted by psynews. The igniting spark for the album deal was the Forms of Energy party in Helsinki, where we met Kalle and shared a stage with Ra, Ypsilon5 and many others.
Q/We take there the opportunity to ask you, still in relation with the same subject, if you can tell us some fresh news about your label. It’s been a long time we didn’t hear something from it and from Kalle. The “Fluorotronik” compilation has been also postponed a couple of times since two years. What’s the current situation with Tranceform? Is the label still alive?
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Tranceform seem to be in a coma at the moment. Last we heard, the "Fluorotronik" CD's are pressed but that was some time ago. Let’s hope Kalle decide to release it soon since there really is no reason to delay it further. Other than that, we don’t know much about the current status of Tranceform.
Q/Let’s talk about your first and high quality album, “Anima mundi”, released back in 2003. It got a very positive reception and was much appreciated by the fans and the goa community. How do you explain yourself this success? How much time did you spend to produce it? And finally, something that remains a mystery for all of us: who did create this wonderful and well-inspired album cover?
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Perhaps people liked it because it offered an alternative to the common trance released at that time. Something more melodic and goaish sounding. The album was in production for a little more than a year, but several of the tracks include elements dating all the way back to 1999. The cover was created by our good friend Ako Zahir. Hopefully he will return to also do the cover for our next album
Q/What kind of equipment do you use for your productions?
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We have used a variety of hardware and software synthesizers, and the setup can change quite frequently. Over the years it has changed from a pretty large hardware only setup to a smaller scaled down studio which also include software synths – so now we use the best of both worlds!
The main workhorse in the making of "Anima Mundi" was the legendary Waldorf Q, but that one is now gone and has been replaced by several other different sound sources. Nowadays we use JV/JD-synths a lot, particularly for pad sounds. FabFilter Twin is a favourite amongst the softsynths. Not much equipment really, but gear is merely tools to help us realise our musical vision. The real composing takes place in the most important piece of equipment – our brains!Q/Some people consider you as the continuators of the “space goa trance” genre, started by projects like Dimension 5, RA or Chi-A.D., and labels like Blue Moon or Novatekk, to just give a few examples. Have you been influenced by any of them or not?
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Throughout the years we've had the opportunity to listen to lots and lots of great trance music, and there are probably many groups who have influenced us in some way but we have never deliberately tried to imitate a specific artist/group. However, similar to those groups, we also try to achieve a “spacey” feeling in the music but at the same time we have all chosen different methods and paths to do so.
Q/How do you describe and define yourself your style and your almost “scientific” approach of your music? In which genre do you classify them?
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Quoting yourself, "space goa trance" really has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? We try to explore more of the mystical side of the music instead of hammering away with pure energy tracks. Therefore, we rely more on several less intensive melodic lines woven together along with a carpet of heavy pad work and FX, all to create nice flowing tracks while still keeping it energetic enough for the dance floor. This is also where one of the main differences between goa and recent psychedelic music lies. With goa, you can actually listen to the tracks in your home and enjoy it as a musical piece in comparison with modern psychedelic music that is almost exclusively geared towards the dance floor.
Q/Concerning now your future projects, a question that your fans are burning to ask you: when is your second album approximately going to see the light? Did you already finish some tracks? What kind of genre will it be? Old /new-skool goatrance like Anima Mundi?
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The album is under way, and it will be finished. Since Ethereal is something of a hobby project, we can't really tell when though. Real life (school, family, work etc) tends to steal away most of our precious studio time. Also, our workflow is such that a track could take quite some time to finish. Some of the album content is already done, and we're really trying to bring the ethereal sound to new levels. More complexity, more melodies, more of mostly everything. If you want a sneak peak, check out the track “Stream of Life” on the compilation Pyramidal Trancendence. The album will go in a similar direction. At least parts of it….
Q/I heard about the existence of some parallel ambient projects you are also currently working on. Please, can you reveal us a bit more info about that?
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Yes, we both have several parallel projects going on, and there are some ambient projects among those. We're right now unsure if any of them will be finished before the Ethereal album. You'll have to wait and see. We don’t want to reveal anything about them until we have something finished to share. The projects span over several different subgenres of ambient so there will be plenty of material to go through, record, mix etc. They're also a great way to take a break from just composing goa and do something else for a while.
Q/ What are your favourite psychedelic trance groups or tracks? And why? Is there a particular artist you would like to collaborate with?
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C: To name a few favourites: Ra, Dimension5, Transwave, Chi-A.D., Jaïa, early Cosmosis and MFG. As for collaborating, this is hard. Very hard. Everyone has their own style of composing, and two good artists can't always create a good production.
F: N.D.M.A. (especially their track Vitan – pure magic!!), Astralasia, Blue Planet Corporation, Transwave and Dimension 5. I agree with Carl about collaboration. It would be very hard indeed to adjust the workflow for a collab. If I were to select an artist to cooperate with, it will most definitely be Astralasia. I’ve always loved their music and ability to mix genres and it would be great to work together with them.
Q/What other kind of electronic /non-electronic music do you like listening to? Any particular artists?
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F: Front Line Assembly, Front 242, Skinny Puppy etc. so mostly industrial music for me. I also enjoy music from the Cold Meat Industry label. Listening to just electronic music would drive me insane so I listen to a wide variety of other genres as well, for example various types of metal, goth rock, pop, country, jazz and more.
C: Lots of spacesynth (Protonic Storm, Laserdance etc) and ambient for me. I also have quite a collection of traditional music, irish in particular.
Q/What’s your feeling about the actual trance scene? Are you confident about the hypothetic goa resurrection?
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C: As far as I'm concerned, the goa trance scene never really died, it simply evolved into something else. I'm very confident that as long as there are listeners who enjoy the oldskool goa sound, there will be people producing this kind of music as well. However, since the number of active labels is not what it used to be, I have the feeling that most new goa tracks will be released on web labels or something similar.
F: Yes, it has certainly evolved but not in a particularly good direction. The original goa trance scene is pretty much dead so I do not believe a “resurrection” to restore the scene to its former glory is possible nowadays. It was good times indeed but those days are long gone. All we can do now is to continue producing and listening to the music we love and see where that leads us. As Carl said, there will always be some people that enjoy the music and some artists producing as well, just not as many as it used to be.
Q/At the same time, do you think personally that you can bring something new to this musical genre? What kind of evolution will happen, according to you, to the psychedelic music?
Perhaps we can bring something new to the genre… perhaps not. Our main goal will always be to compose music we like and if that brings something new to the genre, it’s just a nice side effect. All music is constantly evolving, and there's no telling where it might take us. Production techniques has been improved as well, with the exception of aggresive brickwall mastering which is far too popular not only in psychedelic music. Such mastering is a sure way to destroy a potentially good record.
Q/And last question, what would you like to tell to your fans?
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To enjoy the goa trance scene for what it is. While waiting for the new album, pick up some old goa records or explore the freeware music community. You might discover some real gems.
Thanks a lot for this interview and all those interesting answers. And, of course, good luck for your upcoming projects!
Here is a picture of their studio:
PSYNEWS'S: BEST OF 2006
in General Psytrance
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No, it's ok, i think i want the talk to stay here in this thread.