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    I want to move to cubase...

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

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    Well, I don´t think Cubase is soo hard also... I read the "Getting Started" pdf file from Cubase SX, and after that it´s only practice...

     

    I will give u my personal tips for begginers(once u are on the arrange, with no tracks):

     

    -With right button on mouse u open a dialog box. First the most important are "Add audio track" "Add midi track" "Add FX track"...

     

    -To load an audio file to the arrange: "Add audio track"... Then go to File->Import->Audio File. DONE!

     

    -To play some chords on some vst: first open the vst box(F11). There u can load any vst u have installed... Load for example the a-1 synth from Cubase. Then "Add midi track"... Go to chanel config(on your left) and on "out" conection, chose the a-1 synth. Then choose the pencil tool(u will see lots of tools, like pencil, rubber, scisors, etc) and draw an event. Double click on the event so u are at piano roll. Just draw the notes u want!

     

    -To view the mixer, F3. There u can load insert fx´s and use the send fx´s(I will explain later)...

     

    -To use the send fx: "Add fx track"... Load the fx u want. Go to the mixer, go to the chanell u want, press the "e" button on the chanell. So u have the full chanell config. On your left it´s the inserts fx. On your right u can use the send fx´s(fx track u loaded)

     

    -To view the "trasnport panel" where u can set the bpm track, press F2. NOTE: to change the bpm, u need to fix the bpm!

     

    -PAY ATTENTION:

    1)To move the boxes, check what´s the meaning of the box where u can chose from "Bar/Beat/Use Quantize"... For me it´s where Cubase is FAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR better than Logic.

    2)Press "j"... It´s the snap function. When it´s lit, the box will move according to the "Bar/Beat/Use Quantize" option. When not lit, u will fell that u can put the box wherever u want. I don´t use this function often!

     

    I think that it´s a good start! There´re a lot of things more to discover...

     

    Hope I helped!

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    Thanks a lot. :)

    My first Full-On psy trance :-)

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    Very nice production..

    Dont like the synth that kicks in at 1:58 and i agree with daze the synth at 3:53 is not my cup of tea, and at 4:35 its all goin out of control... :( ..

     

    the pad at 6:16 sounds like forced upon the track..

     

    i think u just need to work on the melodies, and the synths could be more psychedelic..

     

    all in all good production, keep it coming... !!! :D

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    Thanks for both of you. :)

     

    I'll will try to fix it.

    I want to move to cubase...

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

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    I never understood why people seem to think cubase and logic is so complicated.

    Maybe it's me who is ignorant because I grew up with using sequencers, and when notator and cubase came they seemed like a breeze to use compared with Dr T that I was using before that.

    The mixing and routing is now when audio is integrated is maybe the cumbersome part, but still a lot easier than patching up and using a hardware studio.

     

    Basically you have to find the matrix editor to edit your MIDI, move some blocks around to arrange and learn how to use inserts and busses to mix.

    I would think that it should not take more than a couple of days to get going and be able to make a track.

    Of course there is plenty of functions to explore, but thats extras and not needed for being able to make a tune.

     

    I did have a quick look at reason the other day, and I never tried a piece of software that seemed so hard to do even the most basic things in.

    And since it operates so differently than any other sequencer I would not recommend it to anyone as a stepping stone.

    And the sound did not seem better than fruity, rather the opposite.

     

    Fruity is also quite different in the way you use it and the beginners sequencer I think has the most intuitive interface is orion.

    Thats in most ways like a scaled down version of cubase or logic.

    But unfortunally the sound is as bad as in fruity and reason.

    But if the major sequencers seems daunting to start with and you just want to have a play around I would think orion is the best option.

     

    I would reccommend to focus on the basics.

    A very slow scedule would be:

    Day 1: Learn how to load an instrument and edit the MIDI notes and controllers.

    Day 2: Learn how to insert FX and use busses.

    Day 3: Learn how to move, cut and paste parts in the arrangement.

    Day 4: Learn how to record and use automation.

     

    Sure there is a lot more in a sequencer that can be useful to know in some circumstances, but that one can learn as one go along.

    They are really not that complex pieces of software and to get started should not take that long.

    Compared to Director or software like 3D MAX at least it's like learning how to use notepad I would think.

     

    But like I said...I might not have a clue since I can't remember learning how to use a sequencer myself, so sorry if I come off as ignorant.

    But hey...fake it til you make it.

    If you think it will be easy it will make it easier in reality as well :)

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    I wish it would be easy for me too soon. :\

    My first Full-On psy trance :-)

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    "Don't Wake Up" - http://stage.co.il/media/largefiles/amircohen477694.mp3

     

    It's finished. But I'm not closed about the sounds in the begining... But it's a minor...

     

    It's started as a test loop to try making something like "Full-On" and ended up working on a track close to 10 hours stright!

     

    This one is nothing like my previous work... They doesn't even come close to this track...

     

    Anyway, enjoy your listening and leave feedback... :-)

     

     

    Thanks,

    Carnage.

    I want to move to cubase...

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    u just started with cubase...

    so give it more time... there is no shortcut in music making, if u want the best sounding software u have to be ready to spend more time understanding it.. it's not like the user friendly fruity interface...

     

    so get a manual... it will help a lot, print it and start reading..

     

    then if u can get a friend to show u some stuff that would be great...

     

    and practice practice...

     

    when i went from reason to logic it also took me a while...

    but once u master the pgm trust me u will never go back...

     

    so stay with it and be patient... u will get it eventually :)

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    Thanks for the support. :)

     

    Fruity has spoilt me :(

    I want to move to cubase...

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

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    I don't know what you do...

     

    I have a very sensitive ear and I'm a perfectionist, so I can't work with a software that hasn't got the best quality in the market... I love Fruity Loops, but the quality sounds just isn't the best for me.

     

    Fruity is very friendly and easy to use. But I just want to move along. I know that if I'll stay there too long it would be much harder to move afterward.

     

    I have seen people play in cubase and the quality in there is much better. And I did some tests between cubase and fruity in some plugins and there are differents in the quality. I have talked to people who know and used all the sound softwares for years, and they all told me that cubase has the best quality compare to others.

     

    Now, I want to move to cubase but the interface is a killing... I can't manage anything. I'm too fruitylized.

     

    I need some suggestions how to manage cubase's interface. I have tried several tutorials but they all skip many things and jump right to the point, and I get stuck.

     

    Please help. I need your opinion. Stay or move? And if to move... Where to start in cubase?

     

    :\

     

    Sorry for the bad englih.

    Thanks,

    Carnage.

    A Finished Track... "Above the Sunrise".

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    The basslines is excellent, too bad the melody at 2.10 sounds really amateur, it sounds simple, try working more on sounds and melodies. As benf52 said the break is too long at 4. At 5.30 it sounds wrong indeed. On the whole it really sounds amateur and simple, like a track I could make with Rave Ejay 2. You have a lot a lot a lot of work to make it better. It's a pity, I really like the bassline, i think the track could be better if you'd focus on the basslines, and noises, but not too many melodies. But well, if it's not your taste...

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    Actually it's my taste... I don't know what I did this kind of melody.. :\

    But now I'm working only on psy, goa or full-on.

     

    But as I said... It's one of my old tracks, I just finished it without touching his melodies and such...

    Could I get some feedback on my music?

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

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    I used a custom made synth in FM7 for the bassline (close to a distorted sinwave), then I layer in some TS404 at 0:45ish, add another FM7 bassline meldoy layer at 1:09, then 3xOsc mimicking a TB-303 at 2:00.

     

    The other melodies are build ups of 2 more FM7 layers mixed with the original bassline FM7 layer (and later mixed with the TS404 and 3xosc) along with some Sytrus preset that I modified (starts at 2:12), a few more Sytrus layers added towards the climax (8:00), appregiations added to the Sytrus and later FM7 layers between 8 and 10 and towards the end. Then I had some TS404 with Spektral Delay for the high pitched "twinkles". Yeah, theres tons and tons of layers :)

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    Nice. Thanks.

    Psynews Contest

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    Just go and buy a spun release or something.

     

    To have the objective to please as many people as possible is a shit approach to music, and if thats your attitude you have no understanding for art nor a mind suited for creating art and you might as well quit IMO.

    Or start a boyband and at least please a lot more people than you could ever do with trance and earn a lot more money.

    But don't call yourself a musician.

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    Did you actually read my post?

     

    There's a different between creating music from your muse and from your art and etc to creating a track for a contest.

     

    I DO NOT create music for the audiance... I do it my own way. But it would be interesting to create a track for a contest that will have to challenge others producers. It's a different deal.

     

    For a contest you need to create for the audiance. And out of it you do it for your heart.

     

    Don't mess things up.

    Psynews Contest

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    There is no need for a contest in music...it never is and never have been.

    You cannot tell who is "the best" because music is about taste and how it speaks to you personally.

     

    Sure a competiton can be fun if you take it for what it is and don't have a lot of strict rules.

    And a more efficient way to get music heard and rated by many people, but it still will not tell you who is the best.

    Thats just a ridicolous concept.

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    The best for me for the contest... is the one who CAN make music that everyone will like. And not a personal for himself.

     

    Sure music is an expression tool, but in a contest, it's something else. The producer need to convice us to choose him. And it's a hard thing to do.

    Psynews Contest

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    But it seems extremly pointless to me. Music is not a competiton sport, it's about expression and in this case getting feedback from what you create.

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    So in that case everybody's a winner and who needs a contest anyway.

     

    If feedback is the purpose then there's no need for a contest. Any producer can just post his new track in the forum.

     

     

    Contest is about who's the best, and nothing else.

    Psynews Contest

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    There is a form.

    Make music, upload it and let the users of the forum decide.

    Come on, making rules like  'There must be a big climax with a decent going up before the end of the track...'

    Whats the point and who should decide what the rules is and what tracks fulfill them.

    Are you going to be the judge of what is progressive, housey or trancey?

     

    If this turns into a hip-hop contest it would be because most producers here make hip-hop or if one hip-hop tracks enter and win it's because the people in the forum like hip-hop best.

    I doubt that will be the case since after all this is PSY-news.

    But if it happened I don't see the problem for anyone.

     

    The only rules needed is that you made the track yourself and who gets the most votes win.

    Anything more is completly unneccessary, and I think most people agree on that.

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    Then all the votes will go just for the voter's taste! And not for the process.

    The best way to judge is to give some rules (not million) and the one who done it the best wins.

     

    let's say we have now a Psy trance, a metal, and a house.

    The person who likes house will choose for house,

    The peron who likes Psy trance will choose for psy trance,

    And the person who likes metal will choose metal.

     

    It's stupid. <_<

     

    But if we have now 4 psy trance and the one who listen don't like this genre.

    He will vote to the trance who sounds proportional best from the others.

     

    It's not that hard.

    Psynews Contest

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    you starting to think like an ordinary label  <_<

    no rules, make the music as it should be from your point of view, you are an individual show us that  B)

     

    ND.

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    Contest should be with specified rules... Because this is how you see who done the best job in the specified form...

     

    Without some rules people could even make hiphop :|

     

    We need a form to know who done it the best in these certin circumstances.

    Psynews Contest

    in Music Making and Production/Industry

    Posted

    All genres are accepted (House, Trance, Psy, Full-On)?

     

    Or just psy?

     

    And you need to set rules... Like max duration, bpm limit (example: from 140bpm to 148bpm), and etc... Try making it a little more interesting... For example... 'There must be a big climax with a decent going up before the end of the track...'

     

    And also give at least a month to complete the track...

     

    If you want my help to set the rules and the contest itself, I will be happy to help, and to participate.

     

    Good Luck,

    Carnage.

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