Guest J Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 The modern neo psychedelic trance seems to commonly have these real squeaky sort of high pitched crystal clear sounds. I wonder if you know what I mean? Absolum, Alien Project, Astrix, Sirius Isness, CPU, etc use these sounds often. I have been trying to recreate these types of sounds on my Nord Lead 3 for a while but am having much difficulty. I just cant manage to get those crisp sharp neo-psychedelic sounds. Do I just need to practice more with making sounds with synthesizers or is there some common sample cd or software, or instrument with these common neo sounds in the presets? I`m sure either way that in the end it involves hard work and practice, but apart from the nord lead 3, can anyone reccomend some other instruments or softwares I can experiment with to try and create these awesome crystal clear neo-psychedelic sounds? Or, should I just stick to working more with my Nord? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest God Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 WE DONT NEED MORE OF THOSE, So please, create something new. Thanks/God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest miKeLogic303 Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 As you have obviosuly not found out yet, all the goa/psy artists today use the Time & Space: Psychedellic Sounds for Dummies sample CD. This is why all the new releases sound the same.... On the other hand, you could try recording your nord and use some plugins on it. Try the Destroy FX ones, get them from kvrvst.com or search on google. peace out! mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ben Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 basically u need to practice more... i felt like u a couple of months ago, i thought i had the wrong synth (nord lead 2) but then i got a lot of other vst's and it didn't change anything. If u can't make those sounds with nord lead 3 then u won't make them with some vst's... i'd say work harder on your sounds... basically to make the sounds crystal clear like u said those artists u mentionned probably know how to Eq them right and how to use reverb and other fxs... try putting all the knobs down on your synth and then move one or two and see what it does, cause u don't need 10 modulations at the same time to make a good sound... hope that helped... ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest atman Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 true psy lines like astrix and alien project, and all that shaist is pritty old school, new album of total eclipse doesnt sound new, cuz they didnt change much, all thouse mono synth 101 lines are old, dont try to recreate em, try to make smth new like progressive psy like ticon, vibrasphere, atmos, ect. remember 1 thing when you produce! -> be proffessional from the beginning! and u'll get good results ;| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest miKeLogic303 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 there's a good tutorial on synth programming (if you actually don't understand how it works) available on: http://www.tweakheadz.com As Ben said, it is important to know the basics of synth programming at least. I have used various synths over the years, and to get very unique sounds I still run them through effects. But it's really knowing what to use and when to use it that's important. Hope you get there soon, mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ben Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 e-mail me if u want maybe i can help u more... benf52@yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J.K. Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 Thankyou everyone so very much for your helpful responses! Producing high quality always comes down to hard work and practice but good advice and tips always help. I hope this was of help to others too. Thanx again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J.K. Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I cant seem to find this Time & Space, Psychedelic Sounds for Dummies CD anywhere. Does anyone know where I can find it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest miKeLogic303 Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 sorry J.K. that was meant to be a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J.K. Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Thank god! I would have been real diappointed if there were really some sample cds out there with all these modern sounds in them. That would be too easy, boring, and really limiting. Peace Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NATURAL MIND Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 just try "reason" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ZX81 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Okay... Some sounds: Eeerwaeahoh (Talking)etc: Low pitch (C1-C2) sawtooth waveform (mebe 2 with ring mod) LF01 set to medium rate, Max range, Destination: Osc1 LF01 set to medium rate (different), Max range, Destination: Osc2 or Osc1&2 HP filter set about halfway BP filter (Serial - after) to move sound around Little reverb, lots of delay (delay at 6 for left, 8 for right, feeding left out back to right input and vice versa) Disolving Crysals: Med Pitch (C4-C5) sinewave osc1 Med Pitch (C4-C5) sinewave osc2 Ring modulation on LFO1 start high rate (Max) automate to low (Min) destination OSC1 pitch LFO2 start med rate (3/4) automate to low (Min) destination OSC2 pitch Ring modulation makes this one. Don't forget to put HP(high pass) filter on all effects, pad's etc so that they don't interfere with the bass (yes I know the sounds sound better with heaps of bass in the when you solo it, but overall it will get muddy). BTW: Motown EQ is a nice idea for Trance/Psy, as you basically choose the nicest frequency of each sound, top& tail the freqs (i.e. band pass or LP and HP it) and then make sure every sound that is playing at one time has it's own frequency range... Bla Bla, if these don't work for you, mebe I'm thinking of different sounds, if so, post a couple of track names and times in seconds and I will listen... BBye Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest psyhead Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 dude..., take a beer bottle..n a broken piece of metal.... scratch the bottle with the metal piece. i bet ya.., u'll surely get that sound . its so simple. y r u makin it complicated by usin nord lead 3. aha...! i got a better option..., y dn't u make that noise outta ur mouth ? lol! n one more thing...., dn't over use it in ur songs..cos ppl might think its a solo opera performance. bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Matt, Thankyou so much for your detailed explanations! This looks like some really good information. I will start experimenting!! Thanks again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HILLTOP82(When the shit h Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 One time I Kicked my litle brother really hard, he made a new squeaky psychedelic neo sound... I was really amazed and I did it again several times but this time with a microphone ducktaped to him... It turned out in to a CD that is now in the stores all over... Its called: "Psychedelic Sounds for Dummies CD 1" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Matt, Thanks again for your detailed discription. I tried wat you said and bingo, I got some sounds I was looking for. This has also now allowed me to move on to create my own sounds through what I learned by playing with these settings you suggested. Your advice on the high-pass filter was also absolutly essential! Thanks so much for your time! Peace Out, J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfgeister Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 you find those sounds in the virus and in the yamaha cs6r..but: i planned to integrate those sounds into my production, but then, after a weekend, listening to brandnew isratrance productions, this sounds really make me sick.. nearly everybody seems to use the same sounds, effects, etc..(except infected mushroom) i think it`s time for a new revolution, like atmos caused in 1998 with "klein aber doctor" because neo full oun isn´t new anymore.. now you can call it just standard full on 2004.. greetinx thorsten(klopfgeister) --->klopfgeister.com FREE unreleased mp3 downloads!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgranber Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 ...squeeky squeek squeak.. made this sound with reason's subtractor the other day, but it can be applied to most subtractive synths. turned out pretty well even though it's become a cliche like anything else in the full-on sound these days... first, init patch. then turn the modulation envelope amount to about 90 and use the mod env decay to get the pitch right. set it to 54 and use C0 on your keyboard to trigger the sound. adjust the default filter envelope velocity amount to 0. Set filter 1 to bandpass then open it up even more by pushing it to 90 and add some resonance (about 30). now, to get some movement set lfo 1 to modulate the filter frequency and set the rate to about 50 and amount to 40. amp envelope values: attack: 0, decay: medium, sustain: 0, release: fast. play with the filter envelopes to sculpt the sound even more.. now add some pingpong delay fx for the final touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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