Guest snusnu Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hello there!! Just wondering... I'm pretty new to the world of music making and the first idea that I had when reading reviews of softsynths was that Reaktor beat them all, hands down, yet I get the feeling that a LOT more people use Reason, NOT Reaktor.... So can anyone explain why Reaktor gets all the spotlights then? SMI²LE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slidingtrancer Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Reaktor is mainly a developers tool(correct me when I'm wrong) and its brilliant in its purpose... but very complex in structure if you haven't been familiar with synthesis from birth on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Psylent Buddhi Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Uhhm, yeah, forget about Reaktor if you're new to producing. Using Reason for a start is a good idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thesoul Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 reaktor is a sound synthesis tool; using which you can create endless haunting soundscapes; as for reason; it's a self contained music production system; and it's easy to get into; therefore; for producing music; get reason; and if you want to create sounds; get reaktor. for a newbie; reason is tops though; :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DeeperNETWERK Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Yeah, reaktor is a pretty extensive program that is definitly not for the beginner. You basically build your own synths, which is pretty cool. Which means you gott sit there for a long time and build one (or two, or three, etc...) before you can use it. If that looks kinda intimidating.... Look into Dynamo. It's reaktor with 30 or so... pre built synths. it's half the price, but once you get used to it... You can't build your own. That's when you gotta upgrade to Reaktor. I'd disregard Reason... and start with Cubase (if you have a PC) or Logic (if you have a mac). Skip the bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snusnu Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 but but.. I thought Cubase and Logic were supposed to work WITH Reason and Reaktor, not replace them... Now I'm confused... can anyone explain further?? SMI²LE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest squirl magnet Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Reason is for making music, Reaktor is for making sounds Cubase/Logic is for mixing the above 2 and many other programs along with recorded audio to make a final track. Cubase/Logic is also used to control real physical synthesizers and tell them what notes to play and when to play them. Cubase/Logic can help your prerecorded sounds and beef them up for the final mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kits Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Reaktor isn't for "making sounds" , it is for: 1) creating synths, samplers effects, midi aps etc 2) using factory machines or ones you create as VSTs inside any Sequencer Reaktor is a great program by a great company. I don't find it that complicated either. It is just very flexibale useful both for the beginner (just using preset stuff , doing a bit of ur own wiring) and the expert (modeling synths etc). You are way better of opening reaktor ensembles even in fruity loops than using Reason wich I find annoyingly graphical and way over hyped. Cheers Kits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest psyn Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Oooo you got the quickest response i've seen in thiz board yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E.T. Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 I'd disregard Reason... and start with Cubase (if you have a PC) or Logic (if you have a mac). Skip the bullshit. -------- This sentence has a bullshit value. If you're a beginner, DO NOT start with "fully equipped" studio, start with simplest tool. Move to the better ones ONLY when you feel you're ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DeeperNETWERK Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Well, whatever you say E.T., but Cubase or Logic is not a fully equipped studio. Maybe if i told you to sit down in front of a full blown protools setup, and say, learn this. Start with this. That'd be a different story, but, It's juts as beginner as Reason, but sounds better and won't be limited to the cheap sounding effects and tools they give you. Instead of have the learning curve, just start somewhere better, that's all i'm saying. I dont know how you can disagree with that. You'll have better results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E.T. Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 I dont know how you can disagree with that. -------- Haha, very easly! Primitive and simple tool is not only for easy music making for beginner, but cheap sounding and raw environment also toughens the novice musician's talent and skills. When one feels one can't get any better with that, when one notices one've reached to the limits of the tool, one knows it's time for something more advanced. Not earlier, not later. Or else you will get another shitty musician, who is overwhelmed by his tools, who cannot get through it all, and his creations are deformed, half-baked, with usage of irrelevant sounds, etc. It's just like asking the wanna-be body-builder to rise up the 200kg weight... Cubase itself IS owerwhelming for novice. And you want him to use Cubase only? With what? General Midi??? Using Cubase you need also some softsynths or hardsynths (but I'm sure you know that...), so it results with (almost) full music studio anyway. Snusnu, don't listen to anybody - use FastTracker2 It's free, it's raw, it's a good choise for somebody who cannot be even sure if music making do not bores him after some time (no matter how horny you're right now). Don't think you'll get good music after one year of composing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kits Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 E.T. i cant beleive that in 2002 you are telling someone to use tracker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DeeperNETWERK Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Snusnu, if this guy is saying "dont listen to anyone", and then recommends Fasttracker2. Ya gotta know something is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coriolis Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 my synopsis: reason = very beginner producer toy, no other software needed to make tracks, but the possibilities are very limited especially due to the super-simplified sequencer. the sampler, rex player, and full routing capabilities are particularly powerful for such a small and integrated program. reaktor = very powerful and deep synthesis tool, requires external sequencer to operate. used in conjunction with cubase or logic you can do a vast array of things. and you don't need to know how to program it on a deeper level - you can just use the pre-built ensembles and get a hell of a range of sounds. i do not recommend considering reason as your workhorse for producing trance. it is okay as a starting tool for someone who hasn't made any electronic music but beyond that it isn't much. if you buy reason, know that you will have to get better software once you want to start making more mind-warping trance music. don't get me wrong - reason can make interesting music. but hell, ANYTHING can make interesting music, including the pots and pans in your kitchen, but that doesn't mean you're gonna go producing killer trance with them. coriolis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scalar Posted October 15, 2002 Share Posted October 15, 2002 just to really screw it all up, you could get hold of a program very similar to reaktor and build your own sequencer... effects, synths, so why bother buying more than one piece of software? INFINTY!!!!!!!!!! and enough of this sequencers versus software studios crap - it is getting fairly tedious. If you think you can write killer trance in a software studio, fine go and do it. If you think you need a sequencer than go and do that. Why the hell is everyone obsessed with getting one over on someone elses opinion? grow up! As for reaktor vs. reason. My personal preference is for reaktor, but others may well (and indeed have) said the exact opposite! My advice is that there is no right or wrong, merely personal preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest krazi monce Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 you still the songs from licvid bamba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AMP Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Reason isnt a proper program for you to do real quality professional music. Reaktor is probably one of the greatest software ive seen for music, trying combining it with Logic for sequence purposes and you are on the right way Plur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BrainStorm Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 hell sure Reason check this: www.mp3.com/whoracle its all made with reason only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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