Need help creating a psytrance setup

[Guest erik]

I would like to start making psytrance, but I'm not sure about what equipment to get. I have a copy of cubasis and sound forge 4.5 on my (PC) computer and I'd like to work in digital, to keep things cheaper. If someone can explain what other hardware and software things (like sound modules and keyboards) I might need, and what purpose they serve, that would be great.

 

Thanks

[Guest Mike D]

Reason

Rebirth

A good sampler

a lote of spare time preferably no chick to hassle you to come out and socialise hehe.

[Guest reece]

hmmm, steer well clear of rebirth my friend!, nothing original to be made with that peice of software.

try fruity loops or perhaps reason to learn the basics of sequencing and track construction, then take it from their.

:-)

[Guest Mindbender]

My suggestion is Orion Pro. It is a very intuitive program (no need for manual, if you've used windows for years), that can do most things that are relevant to psytrance. Cubase and Logic do have more possibilities, yes, but most are stuff you don't need in psy anyway. So if you want to produce rock-bands or so, the audio tracks in Logic/Cubase come in handy.

 

But Orion Pro is more fun and if you're just starting, I think it is better to start with somthing that is fun and easy, but can still make very wicked stuff. Most finnish psy is made with Orion Pro.

 

Then you need loads of plugins. That is, VST effects and instruments and DX effects. Sound Forge is quite good for audio editing. Wavelab is the other common choice.

 

You will want a midi controller keyboard and knobs to control your soft. Good computer, good sound card and monitor (speakers).

 

Lauri

[Guest Eshanti Brahman]

Mike .....you're right about chicks!!!!! After going steady ,I hardly find time to sit and create psy....... Only fluffy cheesy piano-rolls hahaha

[Guest Jeto]

a good setup..

 

Software :

 

Cubase 5.1, Nuendo or Logic

Reason

Fruity Loops

 

Editing :

 

Wave Lab 3.4

 

Soft Synths :

 

Reaktor

AbSynth

Pro 52

 

Hardware :

 

Nord Lead or Virus

 

Cheers...

[Guest eXpulse]

all you need is Kaazaa

then you go there and download everything you need

i think the guy above me described it all

 

and don't waste your time on rebirth

 

start with reason , use it for like a month or to

then get Cubase and download all the plug-ins

 

and there you go! and read the manuals

 

 

oh almost forgot , you gonna need some talent as well

 

Good Luck!

[Guest erik]

Hey, thanks a lot. I guess I forgot to mention that, I have played around with the sonic foundry's acid for awhile. It really doesn't help you learn how to create stuff, but it does teach you a bit about arrangement. Also, I have been playing and composing stuff on the piano for about 4 years.

[Guest Ancientz]

Reason (rewire),logic/cubase or nuendo Sequencer

all the vst's and vsti's that YOU like vst's

Analog synth(ms-2000?) or a cheap midi keyboard synth

good audio soundcard (delta 66) + DSP card (luna II cheap) soundcard

athlon over 1 gigahertz,1024 sdram,40 gig scsi HD, pc

Studio monitors , some cheap ones are: behringer truth, monitors

alesis mk one,tannoy reveal,studiophile, or u can get some mackies,

Dynaudio or Genelecs right away.

 

External MultiFX processors: FX Lexicon,Behringer,Alesis

 

External Analog compressor(tube)

Go to your local Pro auido store and get a demonstration

Same goes for the Studio monitors and soundcards Compressor

[Guest no one]

get a sequencer and plug ur home stereo to ur pc....then try to make as much as u can.....

[Guest Boppity]

As you can see there are many opinions on how to set up a studio. The only thing I would say is simply learn as much as you can about different synths (both soft or hardware) and find out which ones create sounds and effects that you really like. But don't rely too heavily on gear...it's the mind of the person that makes the music and since you have a background in theory and composition work with that knowledge. Remember...no amount of fancy gear and gadgets know how to write a good track; the human mind does.

 

Here's the set-up I'm putting together right now for myself, if it helps at all...but realize I just started putting this all together this year and have a few more items to get:

 

I run a PC studio and Sonar 2.0 is my main sequencing software package.

(as well as using Recycle 2.0 and SoundForge 5.0 for editing)

 

Softsynths:

Reason

Symsynth (the stand alone soft-synth...not the one in Fruity Loops)

 

Hardware synths:

Korg Prophecy

(eventually I would like to end up with a Triton with a Z1 OS card, Yamaha AN1-X and an Access Virus...but those all have to wait til next year's budget)

 

I don't have any outboard effects yet...but plan on grabbing at least one, multi-effect processor to better control sounds off my mixer (Behringer 1604: I know, I know...but I can't afford the Mackie I really want until next year either).

 

Soundcard:

Midiman's "Audiophile" (built-in MIDI interface which is nice) Sufficient enough for my desired studio set up.

 

Controller:

Oxygen8 (granted I can use the Korg to control the midi commands, but I like the options on the Oxygen8 better and I plan on using this for controlling all MIDI data to Reason)

 

If your hard drive is large enough I really don't see the need for buying an outboard/stand-alone sampler. Just use your HD and the sampler in Reason.

 

I will also be buying an Audio Technica microphone before the year's over for recording vocal samples (moreso for ambient and noise projects...but it never hurts to have a good mic regardless of style).

 

That's all I've got going for me at this point. Hope it helps!

 

Best wishes and good luck,

 

Jim

[Guest Ancientz]

no amount of fancy gear and gadgets know how to write a good track; the human mind does u say, but u need the right equipment to make your ideas possible, and for good sound u also need the right equipment, u contradictin yaself, your buyin LOTS of hardware too, your not helpin this guy

[Guest KS]

this is what i use....

sequencer:

cubase, fruity loops (when i am feeling lazy)

Editing:

sound forge, wave lab

Soft Synth:

Reaktor, Absynth (god i love native instruments)

Synth:

Roland JP 9000 (beautiful analog sounds)

soundcard:

gina

PC: P 4.. 1.4 gz...

couple of drives to store data,,,

pair of good professional monitors... i have some obscure japanese brand..

 

and just fill up cubase with as many vst plugins as you can find...

[Guest Boppity]

I'm buying the minimum gear I need to be able to connect my PC to the few synths that I personally WANT. I don't need them. You give a musician a tin can, rubberband and a cigar box and he'll still make music from it. Musicians don't need to rely on gear to do the work for them. There are plenty of artists who use minimal set-ups and create great music (not just psy-artists too).

 

I'm not contradicting myself. My aim has been to put together a working studio for under $1,000US and I'm doing it. If I want to expand later I will, but I don't need 800 synths or racks of processors to write music. I agree some equipment helps improve the sound quality of your music and I would consider that a positive investment...but you don't need to go overboard either.

 

Love & Light,

 

Jim

[Guest Nick Vertigo]

DONT LISTEN MIKE DEE IS A FUCKEN TRANCER LISTEN THE ONLY THINK THAT YOU NEED IS A GOOD SYNTH A GOOD KEYBORD AND KAZAA TO DOWNLOAD SOME SOFTWARE

[Guest eXpulse]

Nick Vertigo

AGREE 100%

those above are the most useless advises i've ever heard

the guy want's to try some producing and ppl advise him to invest thousands in gear

 

just go to Kazaa get reason or get cubase and bunch of softsynth and plug ins

if you like what you make and you like the process just buy a nice sound card and a pair of monitors

and then if you wanna advance you 'll know what you need without asking anyone

 

good luck

[Guest thesoul]

reason + fruityloops 3.5[it becomes an vst instrument!!! can be loaded into cubase]

reaktor or for a beginner, something less comlicated like fm7.

as you say you already have cubasis, and soundforge.

get a good soundcard.

on a budget, nothing beats a soundblaster audigy.

or try a midiman delta.

you can do without a midid controller right now if you're really tight on your budget.

also there's one more thing you need.

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[Guest thesoul]

time.