zerg Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 i was using fl studio for 2 years ... and now i thing it's time to get some serious software so can u help me to decide ???? Cubase or Abelton ??? which is better and why ??? (i 'm making psy-trance on my pc ... :posford: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikkenteki Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I own and use both and would say for all intents and purposes they are pretty even in creative potential. My preference for creating music is Cubase, but Live is more than up to the task as well. For ME (and only me) some very general good and bad points might be... Live: + Generally easy to use. Only two major screens Warp feaures for audio easy to use Excellent for both live and studio use Midi mapping to controllers very easy Includes a small but usable drum sampler (good for new guys who haven't bought something else yet) No dongle so easy to use on the road - Monitoring on the mixer is difficult for knowing exact levels Automation is easy to record, but I find it difficult to precisely edit, especially with bpms and such Older versions had some audio quality issues, but they've been cleaned up in the last couple versions Manual isn't the clearest on some various points so some features can be a bit tricky to figure out at first Generally solid, but a few vst's have made it crash on me, usually with the program just suddenly and completely disappearing Need to buy more synths and effects as the included bunch is a mixed bag Cubase: + Depth, can do just about anything with it Offline effects processing Exactly level monitoring and adjustments on the mixer are simple and easy Automation and be edited exactly very easily Very flexible On my computer, my purchased copy is very stable, but your mileage will vary depending on your setup and the "source" of your copy - Depth, it can overwhelm a new user quickly Dongle, fine for studio use, but not something I like to take on the road. Need to buy more synths and effects as the included bunch is a mixed bag No drum sampler included Has a number of different windows you need to get used to. Midi mapping can be difficult for controllers. There are more that other people will surely add more and disagree with everything I've said so keep in mind that a lot of this is very individual. Many people say that Switching to Cubase is difficult, but I think this mostly an issue for people who haven't used any audio sequencer to any real level of depth knowledge-wise. Like you I used Fruity for a number of years and generally knew it inside out. Because of that I found the transition to Cubase actually extremely easy. Live was pretty easy for me to use straight out of the box as well, but I did have to fight with it and manual on a few obvious points that I found weren't so clearly documented at first. For me the generally imprecise monitoring on Ableton Live is kind of the deal breaker for me in making it my "main" production sequencer, although I use it on the road for that often and then usually rewire or import the parts into Cubase to finish it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerg Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 hmmm ... tnX m8 !!! i tried live and with some video tut. i know it a little and it's not so hard but cubase seems to me wery hard i don;t know why >>> maybe because his serious and cold interface ??? so any way i need to study each one for some time ... that;s why i'm interested to know shud i give my time to one or another ... peace :drama: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 For me the generally imprecise monitoring on Ableton Live is kind of the deal breaker for me in making it my "main" production sequencer, although I use it on the road for that often and then usually rewire or import the parts into Cubase to finish it up. This might be interesting for you then... Live 6 Session View: grab the horizontal dividing line just above the faders and drag it upwards. Then, with audio tracks, if they are at their minimum width, make them wider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikkenteki Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 This might be interesting for you then... Live 6 Session View: grab the horizontal dividing line just above the faders and drag it upwards. Then, with audio tracks, if they are at their minimum width, make them wider. Sweet, thanks! I was aware of the audio track widening thing, but I never thought to drag the fader channel longer. You learn something new everyday. And to think I've been using Live since version 2 (hangs head in shame). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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