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    Heading to Goa

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    i started travelling and my final goal is to be in Goa, India. Anyone here has been there and could recommend places and stuff to do. I have no idea what can be found there nowadays, i hope i won't be disappointed even though i have no big expectations :/

    Downtempo recommendations and Trusting in Trance

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    hi, i created this post because i need musical advice and also to read what other people think.

    this last 2 years i've been throwing parties with 2 friends of mine who also dj. they play progressive house so parties usually go from 120 to 123 in the first 5 hours to 140+ the last 2.

    at first it was mostly for our friends, and they are well aware that i play psy, so i don't feel pressured about mistakes or playing something too aggressive or complex for nonpsy listeners. the parties were totally free and they went from 10 people to 80 with almost no advertisement. this las time i did a downtempo set in order to achieve cohesion throuhgout the night. people were astonished about the party we threw totally free. some came to me telling me that i should charge for all that and that became evident the day after when i had to clean the entire house. so i decided to make a profit out of this and rented a place. a friend of mine works in illumination and is vjing and i already own the equipments and sound system.... the only thing i need now is more downtempo music!

    i went to the downtempo folder which is quite short and varied in styles and bpm and it was really difficult to get a set out of it so i had to look into IM and shpongle discography. used many tracks from them and a few from my folder in my last set so now . i saw a few friends of mine who knew the lyrics of what i was playing. i need something not so well known, trancey, preferably to warm progressive house but thats asking too much.

     

    bonus topic: in these parties i usually go last because of bpm progression but it happens that  it goes from 124 to 140 in 5 minutes. there was one were i totally killed the little vibe that was in the room. and it is there, it is noticeable. people started to leave. i usually tell myself that i gotta 'trust in trance' and fuck the rest because. i have received positive feedback and some even started to go exclusively for my sets but sometimes i cannnot stop noticing some peoples terrified faces when they realize the whole set will be like that. 

    Whats the 1st Track You Show Someone?

    in General Psytrance

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    On 10/11/2018 at 3:45 PM, psychedelic chipmunk said:

    I am firmly rooted in the 90's goa trance. Don't bring out the big guns right away. Koxbox is definitely too strong, too bassheavy, too technical. Be gentle, give em something like Jaia - Mai Mai :)

    nice

    it is difficult to pick just one. it depends. when someone is interested i give them some tracks that show how little are psy limitations and how wide its spectrum.

    for example, i wouldn't say that highlight tribe - free tibet (vini vici remix) (ORIGINAL MIX) is psytrance, though it shows my point very well. same as etnoscope - odin's kraft. if i think in of a more agressive psy the pick would be talpa - letter from vienna. it is simple, it screams for attention and, incredibly, it is easy to follow.

    so far we have full on, tribal trance/psy. 

    some goa is needed of course. Jaia - Mai Mai is a really good choice. for a more complex goa i would say Kox Box - Life Is.

    to exemplify a more wicked psy it could be anything from Morphic Resonance, also The Misted Puppet

    bonus: a track that never seems to fail among non-psy public is ppk - resurrection. and i always put some hi-tech just to see their frightened faces

    it depends of course in how much interested the person is in all this, if it is just one track to satisfy curiosity something by Astrix or Infected

     

    Am i being too critic?

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    On 6/22/2018 at 5:09 AM, thanosp81 said:

    I would say this is how things are. It very easy to find music that is of high quality, good mastering, crisp sounds, following the pattern of each genre, having all the ingredients etc etc. 

    But that's not what makes good music. Good music is whatever moves you an0sthat you have to find on your own. Because it is so easy  cheap to produce electronic music these days, feeling is what they lack IMO.

     

    On 6/22/2018 at 6:07 AM, recursion loop said:

    Well, it's simple. It all comes down to one thing - does the track move me or not? I can listen to a track and somehow enjoy it but I always ask myself - would I want to listen to this exact track (not just a random track in similar style with similar elements) again? More often than not the answer is "no". There is so much music already released to date in the genres that potentially interest me, life is to short to spend your time on "nice but nothing special" stuff :)

    The track you posted is just that imo, ncie but nothing special. Good atmosphere but it lacks some memorable melodies or sounds, or some other things that would make it stand out.

    I also agree with this. Well, actually producing a professionally sounding track having all the genre-defining elements is not easy at all. But, the complexity of the production, the efforts needed to make your music fitting the current trends, which again mostly comes down to the production aspects, can easily kill all the creativity, i think this is why there is so much of prefectly produced but totally unmemorable music.

     

    as both of you said, sometimes i find perfect production for a completely formulaic artist. it makes me revalue the track because so much effort and knowledge can't be 'wasted' in such tracks, but most of the times is just that: unmemorable music. i found many excellent old goa tracks despite the lousy production. but i can recognize a good idea even if its underproduced. it stands out by itself. 

     

    On 6/22/2018 at 7:31 AM, Manuser said:

    394 tracks is still a lot. As far as I am concerned, I think this is normal to be that picky. I listen to a lot of music, and probably really like 5% of it, at best.  

    The Aquasphere track is in these 5% by the way :)

    almost 400 tracks is a good number. the thing is that, in order to understand goa and psy, i did some kind of extensive listening (ignoring almost anything between 2005-2018)

    and the result is 400 tracks of the most varied nature, so mixing is quite complicated. sometimes this clash between cristal clear production and amateurish production makes mixes sound horrible so not only do i have to find tracks that match, but also tracks with similar key, bpm, and production quality which narrows the posibilities A LOT.

    OTHER THING: you know how a track can grow in you? how a track that you thought forgettable becomes better and better as you listen to it repetedly? well, that's another worry of mine. what if i missing a gem because of the '1-time-listen' caused by the infinite ammount of material available. 

    On 6/22/2018 at 6:29 PM, Redo said:

    Nothing wrong with being picky, why listen to mediocre music when you have ~400 amazing songs?

    If you're bored of listening to the same songs and want to expand your library, try listening to different genres, whether that's sub-genres of psytrance that you rarely listen to, or different genres altogether. You can try going through Ektoplazm and listen to random extremely highly rated albums.

    Also try these websites:

    https://musicmap.info/

    http://everynoise.com/engenremap.html

    When it comes to worthiness, I usually look at whether a song is too repetitive, whether it uses key changes (I really hate them, they always sound awkward and distracting), whether it's structured properly (a lot of psytrance sounds amateurish), and finally whether it uses annoying samples. If it passes those tests then chances are I will like it.

    i hate annoying samples, i hate repetitiveness that leads to nowhere. i hate banging psy just for the sake of banging. and most of nowadays psy sounds the same to me. 

    i opened to other subgenres: goa is great but i would like to see someone succesfully bring goa to 2018 (no, neogoa is not the answer imo), darkpsy is not for me (yet?), same goes for hitech. nithzonot and nithzogoa gives me an awkward feeling. zenoneque is really cool but i grow tired rapidly. any other suggestiop is welcomed. 

    thanks for the random ektoplazm advice. will do.

     

    On 6/23/2018 at 11:18 AM, Manuser said:

    I wish there was more key changes :) It is either a way to support a melody nicely, or surprise the listener.

    Tromesa (Nowina) surprised me big time the first time I heard it: 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a13V6z3my_Q

    Nowina is an excellent track. also loved owig weg - tromesa. more technoish but still awesome. one half of tromesa produced under the name of bigwigs. again, more technoish and kinda industrial (would love to find more industrial psy like this) 

     

    Am i being too critic?

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    i've been steadily listening psy for 3 years more or less and my music folder isn't really long. i have 394 "playable" tracks + 54 that i wont ever play but wanna have. it wouldn't be a problem if it was just for my amusent but i'm thinking of making this mroe seriously and the growing ratio of my folder is low. i don't know if my standards are too high after having my mind blown away so many times or if this is a common thing. sometimes happens that the track is a solid GOOD but something is missing there for me to download it. 

    i listened to this some minutes ago and really couldn't decide if it was worth it. it is well produced, it is coherent, it is somehow pleasent but i lacks something (IMO)

    do you guys have a worthiness proof method or somthing? 

    Thanks

     

     

     

    What happened to Badajalash ?

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    i'm from argentina and never heard of him. i'm listening to his "new universo" EP and it's really good. this thread shouln't die, what happened to this guy?

    progressive, groovy, always changing and still fresh

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT6J5YgbFlw

    TRANCE WITH A HOUSE SOUND

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    On 21/10/2017 at 7:42 PM, technosomy said:

    you either liked it or hated it

    back when was released didn't get it, being such a jaia fan back in the brainstorm/blue and yellow

    then one day out of nowhere......bang!

    love it, pure bliss for me, really shows of his talents and diversity

    check out the remixed album to

    also recommend vertex

    nice recommendation, i knew that album but forget about it. will relisten.

    Jaia produced mai mai which is one of my favourites goa tracks, and i think it also have that housey feeling with a psy touch though

    are you THE technossomy by any chance?

    22 hours ago, Mozza said:

     

    good track, it filled the description smoothly. didn't know the artist so will be listening to it in the future. thanks 

    TRANCE WITH A HOUSE SOUND

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    i'm not looking specifically for old tracks, im looking for those which have  that housey feeling. of course it is easier to find it in oldskool because the boundaries where not so marked then so it is easier to grasp the direct influences. i will post more as i remind said tracks.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    TRANCE WITH A HOUSE SOUND

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    so i have a few oldskool tracks which give me a housey feeling, and an automatic dancing mood. i found some excellent tracks on platipus and i'm currently checking seismic records for some progressive trance with house sounds but this tracks seem rather hard to find. even more those which aged well and aren't the typicall 90's progressive trance. so i was hoping if you guys could recommend me some producers or labels related to this kind of sound. bonus points for psy influences but its not the priority. thanks in advance.

    Gear question

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    What do you already have?

     

    Do you have an Access Virus? Those were all over tracks in the late 90s and early 2000s.

     

    hey man, thanks for replying. i have 2 cdjs and a 2 channel mixer. so, guy above is right, i was looking for some dj tools but im gonna do some research on this acces virus anyways. 

    Gear question

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    in a few days i'm going to the country next to mine, where tech stuff are a lot cheaper and i've been

    thinking of buying something that allowed me to give a more personal touch to my sets.

    what would you recommend?

     

    thanks in advance

    LOOKING FOR EXPERIENCED ADVISE

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    kind of depends on the venue and your monitors, accoustics etc doesn't it??

    if you have mp3 cranked, as apposed to wav, no where near as much distortion

    but you gotta keep it the same, if you mixing mp3 with wav, depending on your encoding, you gonna have issues

     

    good headphones

     

    and yes practice practice

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    and no full on!!!!!

    why no full on? there are some excellent full on tracks.

    LOOKING FOR EXPERIENCED ADVISE

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    the question about sound quality was just something that occurred to me but i dont want to start a hearing-war (?)

    i am more interested in what experienced dj's can advise me about mixing, though practice a lot seems to be the only

    important advice.

     

    Your post is likely to raise 2 or 3 fights alone!

     

    First, I assume you're unwilling to play in CDR, which, IMO is a good idea nowadays. Most CDJ's have USB sockets and you create much less waste like that.

     

    IMO practically noone is able to make a difference between a wav and a mp3 encoded with Lame -V 0 or in 320 kbps.

    Many people here won't agree despite very serious studies, and I accept that, and I will let them argue over who has the most perfect ears...

    I will agree though it's a destructive encoding (removes some frequencies that don't fall into the human's psychoacoustic model). In any case please don't play mp3s that aren't encoded with Lame, or that are <= 192kbps.

     

    Another solution is to encode in FLAC. You save 1/3 of the space. Now your CDJ's might not be able to play them.

     

    Yet, the best solution is just to keep Wavs on a couple of 128 or 256GB USB drives. One minute of music in wav takes 44100*2*2*60 = 10.584.000 bytes = 10 MB.

    You can fit 12.094 minutes of wav music on a 128GB drive. ~160+ albums, or ~1450 tracks.

    Anoebis on this very forum still plays CDs, and he wanders from party to party with a suitcase full of them. That must be close to 100 CDs. And he plays three different styles.

     

    So, can't you make your choice for a DJ set over 1450 tracks, or can't you afford two times $30 ?

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_hi_5?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A541966%2Cn%3A1292110011%2Cn%3A3151491%2Cp_n_size_browse-bin%3A10285018011%2Ck%3A128gb+usb+3.0+flash+drive&keywords=128gb+usb+3.0+flash+drive&ie=UTF8&qid=1481903757

     

     

    The only thing you can complement your CDJs with right now is a very good set of headphones. Apart from that what's important at your stage is to focus on your technique.

    So the best piece of advice I can give is: practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice...

    ...and be patient! The reward will come.

    thanks man, i'm feeling quite discouraged after my first mixing sessions. but i will endure the quest for my very own psysound

    LOOKING FOR EXPERIENCED ADVISE

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    finally, after a long wait, my brand new cdjs arrived and i spent the whole day mixing and having fun and some questions arised. i've been listening and downloading goa and psy and have my little and evergrowing collection. the only problem is that all the files i own are .mp3, whichh is not a problem in itself, but i know that mp3 have a much lower quality than .wav.

    so my question is, which is the most used method to carry music, because, even with a 32gb pen drive, you dont have much space if you use .wavs (and carrying two 1tb hard drive seems unpractical and expensive)

    another question: can the regular raver really differenciate quality sound btw mp3 and wav? does it really matter?

    another question: which is in your opinion the best way to complement a 2 cdjs + mixer eg: launchpad, effect machine (not english speaker and dk how it is called), etc.

    any mixingwise recommendation for someone whose first real encounter with mixing was yesterday?

    people here seems to be really experienced both in mixing and in psyknowledge so im all ears:D

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