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  1. I think the best dub is the old dub, back when the songs already existed as a reggae ones and were dubbed afterwards. Don't like most of the "digi-dub" stuff anymore.

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    the new dub is more melodic and a bit more childisch...

     

    not that 'jungle feeling anymore' imo... I understand you....

  2. what like phish? less than jake, rancid? nah man... not the same imo

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    I'm just saying ska didnt envolve into ska punk...

     

    ska on his own still exist...

     

    I have documentaries of ska bands from 50 years agoo (damn the name, don't remember)...

  3. actually ska was nothing like it is today. Funny fact when the skinheads got started their music of prefference was ska, which still came from the  large population of afro-caribbeans, before they switched to punk...

     

    i do agree... dub is way more psychedelic than most clubbing music nowadays  ;)

    get the mad professor a go... i love burning spear :)

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    wooooooooow wooooooow

     

    the original ska from 50 years agoo still exist and is alive !

     

    just another genre came up called ska - punk....

  4. Well...if ska came before reggae, I think it is worth mentioning Mento music. Just got back today from Jamaica and am happy to report it is still being played today (although it is hard to find. it has taken me 14 trips before I ran into somebody playing it live).

     

    Mento is the grandfather of Jamaican music (before we start going back to the old African music) and was critical to the development of Ska, rock steady, reggae et al. Although its beginnings go back to the 19th century, its heyday was back in the 1950s. It seems that it is largely forgotten (but not completely), and it did not help that even at its apex it was often mis-labeled as being a type of Calypso (which comes from T & T), even though it does sound quite different.

     

    Enough history.

     

    If I were to recommend one piece of dub/reggae it would be Lee Scratch Perry's compilation Arkology. It is 3 CDs brimful of good music (plus you get a nice booklet). In fact, everybody should own this.

     

    I also confess to have a strong weakness for Tapper Zukie's In Dub compilation. But it is a less urgent purchase.

     

    Finally, it is worth mentioning that dub is used by many in techno; for example, it famously featured quite prominently in much of the Chain Reaction label output, and by the Basic Channel /Rhythm and Sound duo (Maurizio and Ernestus).

    Pedro

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    cool to read I'm a big ska fan :)
  5. well my way of looking to the goa evolution is differnent...

     

    no problem with yours mate well done my friend ;)

     

    I bet this will score on your CV :D (kidding)

     

    no serious

     

    in my big imo goatrance isn't a subgenre of psychedelic trance...

     

    goatrance was before psychedelic trance entered...

     

    when I started going out and was very young I remember the older ones complaining back in 1998 that everything was to psychedelic trance instead of goatrance...

     

    so... but still... I would not put 'psychedelic trance' but just 'goa' in the middle...

     

    psychedelic trance had a very short upcoming in 1999 too 2002 but in that period progressive raised like hell + 2003 fullon was breathing hot en steamy at the front door...

     

    in my imo there isn't much psytrance released, if I look in my collection from 1992 to 2005 the years 2000 - 2002 are the tinnest + lot's of it is progressive....

     

    everything that was released and melodic in the psytrance period was just called sometimes fullon or melodic psytrance that's it...

    I remember infected mushroom was the only white cloud in that dark period of progressive basslines and non melodic psychychdelic trance :D

  6. my understanding is that ragga is reggae with electronics

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    euhm yés your statement is correct but ragga is more then that, it's more then reggea with elektronics...

     

    heavey basslines, tuff lyrics, but the problem is reggae is reggae but ragga is not ragga...

     

    you have also dance hall raggga and more directions so well I can hear the difference buth explaning them is like always difficult :blink:

     

    dub music is more trippy & psychedelic than nowdays psy-trance...it's a fact  B)

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    I have to experience for a music style like dub that exist for such a long time there's isn't much envolving and new waves comping up... you can actually notice it all are a bunch of blowers gathering :D , if you hear new dub sometimes it sounds like from 20 years agoo... :rolleyes:
  7. my experience with collecting dub many years is that compilations are the best...

     

    dub from the same artist can get boring very fast...

     

    but I have some really nice compilations with lot's of varation in...

     

    go for the compilations... my advice :unsure:

     

    Totally agreed :) My parents are very big fans of all the genres, and I have been brought up with the music in the 70s :)

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    ska rules... THE SKATALITES are like woooooooow...saw them live super :)
  8. Actually, dub came before Reggae, but thats besides the point. Basically it comes from when so called jamaican artists made recordings, and instead of recording everything at once, they 'dubbed' the recordings. But the story is very long, and it could go on for many many pages of discussions/argumentation (Because there are people that say that dub came much later than reggae).

     

    Anyways, have a listen to some of Linton Kwesi Johnson's stuff in your favourite shop, its good quality dub/dub poetry from Ingland :)

     

    have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dub_music

     

    it totally contradicts what I have written, but it will give you a little bit of an overview.

     

    Sorry that i am not going too deep into this, but as I said before, its a discussion that needs time, and it needs a lot of history explaining, which I dont have time for at the moment :)

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    yés dub is the bassline and the beginning of all... the rest just envolved into other directions...

     

    ska is even older then dub you know, but that's also a long story...

     

    yes indeed i know

    the difference is that dub is kinda electronic music .. or im not right .. :unsure:

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    yés it's a combinatin of djémbes and stuff and electronic sounds like the typical echoos are off course electronic...

    but you should know how many reggea and ragga artist use little electronic sounds to keep the atmosphere up... more then you think... :)

  9. Its like reggae  :)

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    mmmmm I'm a reggea, ragga, dub, ska, fan and I understand your opinion but for a huge fan and listener the difference is like huge...

     

    it's the same atmosphere but that's it... totally different approach of creating sounds and effect to the listener :unsure:

  10. I want some good dub names.. been mostly listenign to only psy dub and the dubbish chillout to date, but would be interested in venturing further into the original dubsound :)

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    mmmmm psy dub... that a nice name of course...

     

    well it is psychedelic dub imo... so...

     

    I'll post some names tomorrow ;)

  11. I've only heard 1200 mics' Heroes of the Imagination album and thought it sounded more full-on that goa or psy trance. I didn't like it.

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    well that's not the good one... you can hear the typical gms sound too much

     

    but it is fullon indeed, one of the main creators of the new fullon wave we experience...

     

    but I have to say the first 1200 mics blasted me away when it was released...

     

    every song has got a different bassline

    every track has got an unique sound

    every track has got an original intro

     

    was there goa spirit ??? well there was certainly a tribe indian feeling toward the whole cd, and a lot of drugs :rolleyes: ...

     

    I think they were one of the last who used that indian tribe concept like that with the ayahuaysca stuff and all...

    they tried to tell a story by using trance what I really appreciate...

     

    I have never seen an album with so much varations in my life...

     

    don't listen to it at all anymore, had it but still respect it a lot...

     

    it's impossible to create another album like that by the same artist...

     

    it's like infected with his classical mushroom... reached the top imo :unsure:

  12. well I'm dub freak and can tell you hallucinogen in dub has nothing to do with dub at all...

     

    still nice cd...

     

    what is dub ???

     

    it has the fast slow pumping basslines like reggea, ragga but no singing or maybe sometimes...

    it's rather minimal but you have full dub too...

    to put it into perspective it's in the reggea, ragga, ska atmosphere...

     

    the treble sound they use are always very slow and they use a lot of echos...

    that's the main mark of dub... the wooooooooooonooooooooooowooooong :D

     

    but dub can very uplifting too for example zion train is dub sytle with upliftting basslines...

     

    I have a huge collection of dub but it's winter, dub is for in the summer....

     

    and to connect it with drugs it's like THE music for blowers...

    very floathing, slow, hard bassline, not annoying, very predictible...

     

    if you want some good dub names ???

     

    shoot ! ;)

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