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    Individual Digital Psytrance Tracks

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    We all know of Beatport by now. However, where can I pick from a large selection of psytrance tracks? Beatport's selection sucks for teh psy, and Psyshop does not offer that service...

     

    I can't be buying these albums with 1-2 good tracks and filler for the rest! $15 for 2 tracks is robbery IMO. I would pay $2.50 each no problem...

    Individual Digital Psytrance Tracks

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    We all know of Beatport by now. However, where can I pick from a large selection of psytrance tracks? Beatport's selection sucks for teh psy, and Psyshop does not offer that service...

     

    I can't be buying these albums with 1-2 good tracks and filler for the rest! $15 for 2 tracks is robbery IMO. I would pay $2.50 each no problem...

    most cheesy psytrance

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    the other day i was listening to this unreleased remix of vibe tribe to space cat's The Purist and I thought; man how bad can things get?

     

    within the latest 3-4 years there is an immense drop in inventiveness and we see the same boring structures return all the time in psytrance.

     

    artists who score good points in cheesiness:

     

    G.M.S.(they still have the odd hit once and again though)

    Freaked Frequency

    Onyx

    Time Lock

    X-Noize

    vibe tribe

    ananda shake

    sesto sento

    bizzare contact

     

    ...

     

    will continue this list

     

    please use this thread to highlights the most cheesiest of psytrance songs you come across, a good warner to you all :lol:

     

    never heard of any of them <_<

     

    :huh: probably all of them are the same guy

    Would you buy a resonably-priced CD version of a free/independent release you liked?

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    this can be done as a cooperative

     

    1. gather some netlabels and graphic artists to produce cd packaging for the albums up for pressing

    2. use existing duplication technology that has as good quality as replication

    3. expenses will be less through the cooperative's collective load.

    4. use a fed-ex or ups etc mail-to-order system or go to #6

    5. automate the process like how newegg.com does it by giving shipment tracking numbers etc

    6. get some distribution deals with a major record label *

    7. combine with online distribution (aka like kompakt does for small minimal techno labels)

    8. done deal

     

    the pay for albums can be done by splitting the gross income - tax, management labor, etc

    what's left (and should be streamlined with some good ol' fashioned negotiating with all the label reps on msn or something :lol: )

    then a split of percentages according to quantity pressed (which will be controlled by a vote by the co-op on each album up for release)

     

     

    for example:

    3 netlabels gather

    5 albums will be pressed

    co-op (one vote per label & 1 for co-op manager) votes on how many of each are pressed

    5 album presses will offset the 1000 minimum requirements no problem

    the 5 albums

    a. 400, b. 300 c, d, e. 100 e/a

     

    album "a." gets 40% of the collected moneyetc

     

    and all 3 netlabels get what they wanted: low quantity distribution and a small profit to justify the effort

     

    to pay the artists (each netlabel can take it on with them by cutting a %deal with them on the album they designed for)

    example:

    album "a." gives graphic artist a 20% cut of whatever the album sells for

    in this (very small case) that 20% of 400 albums pressed is the mechanical royalty of 80 albums.

    if this co-op thing can be streamlined, one could make up to $3-4 (or maybe more i dont know for sure) per album even after costs so that could be a good deal for the graphic artist involved.

     

    so for this example, lets just say that on a first try $2 is made per album after all expenses. well thats $800 for album "a." which the graphic artist (20%) gets $160

     

    and not much work was put into it

     

     

    * having a distribution deal is NOT the same as them producing your record or collecting your publishing royalties (of which your label should go register at the local ASCAP or BMI office). what you do is have them use their already working distribution channels and putting out your cds out everywhere. their take is earning some through the product distribution of a medium scale co-op, and if there are enough labels and product, and a reasonable profit margin they will do it. **

     

    ** large record labels are fighting for profit. fighting them vs. working with (not "for") them...which will you choose?

     

     

    i hope that was helpful

    this is how I would do it anyway. the more people think like this or improve on it the better :)

     

     

    if i messed up the numbers, i hope you get what i mean with this comment instead of just nitpicking on some typo :posford:

     

     

    btw, if any of you are up for this...PM me because i sure will be going in this direction in the near future (for physical media) ;)

    DJ'ing with MP3's.

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    yea, thats as logical as the douchebag rock guitar player who thinks electronic music isn't music because your not really playing an instrument.

     

    software doesnt fucking mix the tracks for you. big deal to anyone who spent years learning to beat match. guess what, you dont fucking have to. so why not do something creative with new technology instead of bitching about like an old lady.

    software does indeed mix the tracks for you if you want it to. People just want to see that you are doing something and not just dancing around the booth with a premade track list you did the night before. there is nothing wrong with not being able to beatmatch...since that takes a lot of effort I notice that most new DJs bypass that completely and do the software thing. older DJs transitioning to software bring in their traditional skills and learn the new stuff too.

     

    mixing with vinyl is damn sexy :) it just looks cooler than any other way. Its a pain in the ass to carry though.

     

    the future might not even be taking hardrives to the party.

     

    the future is computers doing it all and maxed out with sensors on peoples brainwaves etc etc. then laptop guys will be bitching why virtual dj 2012 gets all the gigs.

    new younger brother album

    in Artist News and Labels announcements

    Posted

    definitely pre-order

    We can't just think of this on the fan's scale.

    Simon and Benji are probably thinking about changing the world... as they should, with their vision and popularity. So they decided to use Younger Brother as a tool to join in on the Rock Band circuits. They love all sorts of different music, so Simon will do his electronic stuff with Shpongle and Hallucinogen and Benji with Prometheus. I imagine there will also still be quite a bit of electronic music from Younger Brother, too.

    But they have a responsibility. Armageddon, the end of the Dark Ages, eternal salvation, blah blah blah.

    So they're contacting a larger audience so as to bring them into the Psy scene, and hopefully get turned on to Taoism.

     

    Or something like that...

    like infected mushroom bringing in linkin park fans?

    DJ'ing with MP3's.

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    Everyones on drugs these days, who's there to notice the difference (jus kiddin :P). The dj's playing, it's not like they're gonna feel for the 1% of the people that can actually hear the difference when you play mp3s on loudspeakers. Besides, you would really need hear the sound from top quality speakers, something worth a fortune to hear that difference + you need to have good hearing. I don't think playing mp3s hurts anyone, it's not like you go out on a party and be sad because you can't hear that 115.325246246 hz frequency sound like u do on your pricey home speaker system.

     

    Don't tell me you go out on a psy/goa/whatever party and actually analyze what you can and can't hear. It's about having fun, enjoying yourself and enjoying the music that plays. Forget about the format, it's a hardly noticable thing, it would be like complaining that the temperature is 1 degree more than you're used to or the wind blowing a tad harded then u want it to. ^_^

    i like your attitude man! im torn somewhere between what you said and being a snob about music quality etc :lol:

    Hardstyle listening friends....

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    if they dont want to hear it then bring them over to your place and play it on good speakers since its your place and you have control over what music is played

     

    thats how i do it.

     

    many of my friends i have introduced things gently. like boiling a frog, but starting with cold water

    DJ'ing with MP3's.

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    Ahahaah, maybe I shouldn't have posted this but in your thread it seemed that a lot of people were bashing MP3/laptop DJ's (sounded more or less because they were turntable fanboys) and I think it's wrong. These things need to be thought of critically! Expand your mind! Also, really, no one has to read, or reply to this thread ^ ^... it's just me getting my opinions and feelings across.

     

    expand your mind. 128 and 320 and .WAV is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. underestimating and stupefying the crowd into accepting your low quality standards will go around and come around to bite you in the ass.

     

    from personal experience. There are many times that people in the crowd are more knowledgeable than you are at what you do. and lets just say that this forum is your crowd since you started the topic. most people around here aren't bashing laptops. they are bashing snotty kids playing stolen 128k mp3s.

     

    if you are gonna steal something and nobody can stop you at least steal some good shit so that you don't sound like you have no idea what you are talking about.

     

    besides, you still haven't even mentioned that you pay for your music... <_<

    DJ'ing with MP3's.

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    im taking this as you are an mp3 DJ?

     

     

    honestly, its bad enough im spinning other people's music. Worse even that I would contemplate spinning anything under 256k. You see, DJs need to use turntables or CD players to legitimize what they do. otherwise it isn't art if all you do is categorize them make a string and poof there it is. My little sister can do that. Im not paying good money to go to a club that plays a human jukebox.

     

    i don't mind mp3 DJs. what I have a problem with is snotty little brats with money doing gigs for free so they can play their kazaa folder and then me having to get a real job because DJing doesn't pay around here. I put a lot of work into mixing and to be usurped by one of these brats who just downloads some other DJ playlist and plays it word for word makes me want to never mix for parties.

     

    DEVOLUTION

     

    and people say that about me too! vinyl guys get all pissy because I use CDs. so there you go. its a matter of talent and taste over technique and medium

    Have you ever met a Psytrance artist?

    in General Psytrance

    Posted

    Here's the story: I recently bought the new Twisted DVD and it included interviews, one of them from Simon Posford.

     

    Like I said many times I'm not a big fan of his music and for some reason I always thought he has this celebrity kind of attitude. But after I watched him on this DVD I realize that this guy is one of the coolest in the face of the earth!

    He was smiled all the time, he was funny and he looked kind of shy too.

     

    I haven't met any artist in person (just some local DJs) but here are some artists I've heard they're really cool.

     

    Astral Projection (always smile, always talk to fans etc.)

    Shift (a guy that met him, told me he's a very kind person)

    KinDzaDza (freak of nature :) )

     

    Post the ones you met Good and bad!

     

    I had a gig opening for Astral Projection years ago. The vibe of those guys changed my life. I met a couple others, but nobody as truly spiritually friendly as them. Before I feared that psy trance acts of the AP caliber were unreachable but they were so friendly. Let me put it his way. One of them brought their father to the gig (in MIAMI) and he made an effort to speak broken yet understandable Spanish with me :)

     

    The Infected Mushroom dudes were cool too. I asked Erez why he was selling out with the new sounds (circa 2006) and his smile disarmed me. I guesss I was missing the point.

     

    Aside from that I have met local and American psy DJs. Cool people in general, with a couple douche bags sprinkled around, of course.

     

    I also met myself and think i am a completely full of shit superstar DJ who touches nothing except $1500 mixers. (kidding)

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