Snapinho
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oh shut up. if you haven't been to a party in 3 years, how do you know they suck? to me it seems that it's more of a personal problem, than a problem with the so-called scene...ok.. I really didn't mean to offend but I just remeber the early parties in Oz where some really bad shit went down due to it being run by rich kids who thought it was oo cool to play goa trance... at least back then I bothered to go to parties because the music was good and my friends were good... now they all ended up fucked on drugs and those that got involved in the scene all think they are Tiesto or something... I haven't been to apparty in like 3 years... they just suck now-a-days...
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The "let's all take some mescaline" is a good example of what I hate about 1200 mics. they're just CORNY!!
But then again, I do like the guitar riff that follows it.
I also agree on abasio's Deer Park, but then some lady starts singing after the intro and I immediately wanna skip the song. Just quit that. Please. We've heard it all before, yeah?
btw: all of nick inzomniac's examples are just right. very deep, but not too obviously spiritual.. indeed what psychedelic is: it makes you use your fantasy, imagination and is very subjectively interpretable.
That's an awesome sample! Is that from Derango?“You have to wake up, there's-- What is it? What's wrong? There's something here. Do you see anything? You're probably just dreaming or some…Whoa! There is-- there is something! What the hell is that? What do you see? It's a square. It's just floating. Now there's two - it's multiplying! Maybe that's what a four-dimensional object looks like?…I hate it. It sounds wrong… It's stunning! The math of it - it's a perfect quadrangular oscillation!”
Other good example: on Capsula's Synthesis of Reality, there's a song called 'I know that I know' in which the sample is something like: "[...] but eh certainly to know that you're there you need an echo, you need an echo... there was a young man who said though, it seems that i know that i know, what i would like to see is the i that knows me when i know that i know that i know."
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hehehe, exactly my point! good examples, nick. And that LSD one is from 'the Beyond Within' which is a movie about acid, but the sample works wonders nonetheless!
I forgot one of the most important subjects that artists other than Eat Static shouldn't touch: Aliens!!
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Weird voices (non pitched) that say random, normal stuff, can be highly psychedelic to me. Good [non-trance] examples are the Orb and FSOL. "ok, everybody online, looking good" The way that it's said, man, that's trippy. And what about the song 'Among Ourselves': "I think I'm a little bit afraid... fraid... fraid... "
Brilliant!On the other hand, samples that too obviously refer to either drugs, shiva, trance or a combination of these are corny as hell. Yes, it's wonderful that people take drugs and that Shiva is the indian lord of destruction and wow, people do a trance-dance. Yippee-kayay motha fucka. Same goes for Leary, McKenna and the such samples. Agreed, Shpongle has some nice examples for they can be used in a good way, but man... I think the rule is: if you understand immediately what they mean, the fun is gone. And it's not nearly as psychedelic as can be.
Now I remember an example (of a Cosmosis song? Dunno...) which says; "take it as far as you can!" Multi-interpretable and thus a good choice for me.
And since I'm on this rant anyway, let's give it up for ladies singing some mysterious shit. Quit it! STFU Pleeeeeeeeeeeease! Well, I do know that it's personal, but it all sounds the same. Since lyrics are only one part of the music (and it's not the main focus which it is in most popsongs), don't make em as important. Make 'm background or don't put em in at all! There are exceptions to the rule of course, but I really can't stand any more of that Shanti Shanti shit.
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Horrible sample. Don't know the song, but don't like the sample: way too obvious. Too easy. (but this is offtopic... ok, ima open a new thread on this one)"...To capture moments of Joy and sculpture them into a new Reality, Trance is a State of Mind and a coincidence of Nature, Making Trance today is like tasting several dishes without feeling satisfied, only sampling it all...There is another world beyond this planet..."
--->Har-el prussky (California sunshine-Adrenalin drum)
But yes, not much psy trance will survive time. That's why I named Shpongle and Ott. Hell, Shpongle's a classic already. I think maybe Hallucinogen and IM will survive, cause they've been such renewing pioneers.
Others might've made great and original albums for sure, but I doubt that's the quality that will make albums a classic.
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Damn. It's been over a month since I ordered (and they urged me to order really fast too) and I still haven't received anything. I've had three gigs in the last two weekends and to be honest, I had expected the ceedees to arrive before the first one.
Last friday or saturday I emailed them and I heard that Haris was in the hospital, but that he had sent the package already. Then why the hell does it take forever? Another thing: since I ordered, I've been on their mailing list and I keep receiving emails with even better offers. :S Then why did they rush me so much? The money's been written off my creditcard already, too.
When I get my cd's finally, this'll be the last time I order there online, I think - despite the good prices. I've never ever had to wait so long! And Greece is even in the EU, FFS!! How long does it take for a package to get from Greece to Holland? Over a month? Should think so, unless they're personally bringing it by bike...
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^ok, agreed that its all matter of subjectivity.
But on the other side: you can't deny that certain albums (in general) can be labeled 'classic', objectively, in the sense that they had a certain impact then and are still remembered for that same reason. Somehow I'm thinking of the Beatles' Sergeant Pepper, Nirvana's Nevermind, Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, just to name a few that everybody knows.
In the psy-genre (I'm very much not into goa, so I can't really say anything about that) there are a few examples... Hallucinogen's Twisted, Kox Box's Dragon Tales, Infected Mushroom's Classical Mushroom etc... Hehehe
I know I just named some pretty goa-ish albums, but I think I made my point. People certainly named a few good albums, but all in all, I think that very few of those will survive the cruel hands of time... IMO! -
I'm pretty sure that Ott's albums as well as the first two Shpongles will go into history. Hell, they already are classics. How many people know this music? You don't even wanna know, they're very influential, no matter how you feel about them. Not many albums have that quality.
Matter of fact, I doubt that most of the albums mentioned before me, are actually classics. What defines a classic? It has to be something completely new, it's got to be groundbreakingly good or very influential.
Name some of the old albums that are classics nowadays and try to figure out why it is... You'll see, most of the before-named trance-albums aren't that special when you put it in perspective. It's not about what you like, it's about what will be remembered. And those two aren't always the same, you know...
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wicked!
thought I heard some oldschool infected mushroom in there as well..
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Well... they are kinda slow... I've bought a whole bunch of albums the 4th of june I think and still haven't received it. They did tell me they sent it last week, and I do trust em, but I've had faster shipments from Saikosounds, I can tell ya...
Offers were great though - I must admit - plus they replied me very fast each time I had a question.
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I've always thought Finland has the best and most open-minded scene, although I've never been there. Most online, free available albums posted by the artists themselves are Finnish. I'm thinking Electro Fluoro Punx and Troll Scientists, can't think of another name right now... Same goes for the music; wild, innovative, original, freaky and out-of-the-box. I love it!Here in Finland we have fantastic scene!
The music is the best that comes out these days and people are just packed with helpful and positive spirit!
I organised a party and not a single performer asked for a dime. We do it because we love the music, love to styge. The experience of playing/performing is fulfilling enough itself.
Also the place we used was free of charge. It did burn few days later though
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I really like it, except for the big dj-head on the front... That's indeed a little too clubby for my taste. Backside is awesome, very subtle, professional and tight-produced looking.
Plus I like the Smiley Tribe-font
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Moni; I just thought it sounded degrading to call musicmaking a hobby, when most people would simply make music all the way, if they could live off it... It's not a career in the money-making-sense but I guess it is on a spiritual level (smt like that).
Maybe we should make a list of underestimated artists
and everbody that agrees that the situation is fucked up, should at least book on of them once... Another safecard (imo) is putting a so-called "live act" on the flyer. It sounds like a bigger party when you have a live act in the line up... even though the majority of the times the acts aren't really live.
Could anyone explain what is the cause of not being booked. Whee, i'm having a big deja vu here, think i asked it before...
But seriously: other than people playing the safe side.Why don't you get booked? Don't people know your name well enough? Don't you suck up to enough people? Or is it really because most party organizers only want 'big' names?
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I love it. It's insane, absurd and psychedelic. I can see why other people wouldn't like it though. But I love it.
Btw: if The Cloud Foundation lacks creativity, what about
still one of the best and trippiest albums ever made.. but it's not a standout cover, now is it? -
Capsula - Syntheses of Reality
muy psicodelico! trippy chillout, like this album a lot!
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Yeah, I don't agree with Moni either.
It's especially because you can't live off making music that you have to have a 'real' job. Don't degrade it and call it a hobby (cause that's what you're doing. I think that if people could earn a living with it, they wouldn't need that other job... right?)
And on another note: I do understand where both EP and Colin are coming from. Some people are just dicks and can't see beyond their own testicles. All they care about is big names, being succesful, making some money and a name for themselves. I guess that's why you always see the same big names on most festivals.
Spinning chillout, I got somewhat of a similar 'problem', but I knew that beforehand. I still don't care (yet) as long as I get some respect and the chance to play my music before a crowd that appreciates it. But I guess that in the end it'll get frustrating, which is why I get Colin and Kris's point.
After such a long time you'd like to get some form of respect for what you've been doing... And indeed, it's not about the money, but when people don't pay you, it is a certain form of disrespect.
And to rant a little myself: I don't get why people see a difference between dj's that buy music to play on a dancefloor and dj's that buy music to spin on an alternative floor or in the chillout. To me the latter is an essential part of a good party, but most people (even organisers of big festivals like voov or fullmoon or soulclipse!!
) seem to view it as a necessity to keep the crowds happy. But they don't really have a heart for it. Maybe the same goes for EP; since he was rebooked as a chillout-act the organisers thought he didn't deserve to get paid anymore...
Bleh, sorry for this whole offtopic-rant, but I wanted to give these more-underground-than-others artists some credit as well. And maybe it's time to book em on our next party, hehehe
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Track 2: oooh wow, it's a flute! Now that's a very underlighted instrument, could we hear some more of these mystical tones? I'm a so emotionally touched I want to cry. Sigh... It's not only Shulmans fault, it's a general lack of creativity to me. Stop using ethnic vocals and flutes, PLEASE! The track does break down in a sweet little guitar melody with an evenly cute beat under it.
I put on ' Consciousness Revoked' and feel that if he'd put some kind of dubby beat (or any other kind of rhythm to create constancy), it might have been a great song. But when it stays like this, I can't feel too compassionate about it. Hmmm, it gets better towards the end, the metallic-ish idm-ish inspired ticks sound cool, but still..
Now what I don't like about track 6: the vocals are just enormously annoying, I've heard those a thousand times in slightly different versions and they all manage to irritate the shit out of me. Try something new, pleeeaaaze! Other than that it really sounds a lot like Shpongle, which isnt a bad thing, but well... It still sounds too much like a 'thought up' connection of sounds without the organic touch to it, without ... well ... I'ma go say it again: emotion, feeling. Where is it? Shulman sure knows his way round his computer, his synths and touchpads, but ... it lacks melody.
Finally Instability: vocals sound pretty good, atmospheric layers also work well, other sounds keep sounding random from time to time but this is more coherent than the rest of his album. Even the chanting monks (originality, helloooooooo) don't sound that bad. Yeah, I guess this song is the best on the album: it's got emotion and all that. It's idmbient-ish. And it might even be considered a little trippy, which I like.
Plus I think Charlie rightfully considered this the climax of the album and it does indeed very much climaxic. Right on!
Ok, I know keep saying "it's not bad" instead of "this is wonderful" but you have to understand where I came from.
And you know what it is... It is very well produced, he's created some really trippy sounds, but overall it just sounds like a well put together dadaistic collage of layers of sounds. It's too random to be coherent.
Another point is: I wouldnt play this in the chillout and that is one kind of criterium for me. Another is whether I could put this on when tripping. And I wouldnt: for listening music I'd still prefer FSOL, the Orb, Boards of Canada, Solar Fields, Higher Intelligence Agency etc. etc.
But I'm still glad some people like it, he definitely didn't waste his efforts, hehehe.
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Check!
Albums in the mail today! Nothing beats waking up and seeing a little package in front of your door.
faze is the man, once again, and now I'll stop saying it or I'll look like a suck-up. 
But hey: listening to Androcell right now, hell yeah! I think it's gonna be either Atmos-Spheres or Dub Crickets, but who knows what it'll be...By the way, the artwork in the booklet inside the digipack rocks ass as well, verrrry nice! Woohoo, this is one happy Snaap right here!
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^ Yeah man, I agree. Especially the chillout tuesday afternoon, starting @ 15:00 o'clock. wicked stuff for sure
Kuba - Inside Out
in 2006
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Huh, you thought track 2 was boring and yet at your favorites it says: 2!!
Have had a few listens and wasnt too impressed either. Sounded like I'd heard it all before. a bit Abakus like and other than that pretty much LSD-sounding. I wouldn't recommend it, I guess, but I might give it another try. The first track is my favorite, I think. BUt that's after just 3 listens.