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..................... on my wiener...............in my bed.
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I wonder why? Maybe they also thought it wasn't worth releasing.There were problems from the beginning and when Chill Tribe almost gave up...
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Well my MAIN concerns are actually this:
1. There should be no CD2, since the unreleased tracks not good.
2. If there was a CD2, it should contain the 3 bonus unreleased tracks as well rather than 3 remastered well available tracks.
And you know already that I think re-releasing music is lame, not so important whether it was on vinyls or CDs originally. So it's clear why I would speak negatively about this release.
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The only beatless ambient I've ever enjoyed was the stuff made by Moksha, who later made goa trance. They have a ton of variation in their ambient music and most of it very beautiful and unique.
For more like chillout ambient, I really enjoyed:
Darshan Ambient - Autumn's Apple
woob - woob1194 (the second woob album is crap btw)
Genuine - Nu Ambient Grooves
Synaesthesia
I haven't heard very much ambient, but most of them I found boring and forgettable.
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Nice catch with that melody. I still like the CS track regardless but it's a bit fishy.
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I'm not here to learn, I'm here to teach.
u sound like an old man who has lost the ability to learn... seriously if u really think u know all this then u shouldn't even bother anymore!OK, jokes aside, what's wrong with my claim? Why shouldn't I know that? I'm not old and I'm nowhere near done learning but I already see a large number of convictions beneath me.
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Biggest Criminals: etnica, sampling without permission in Intense Visitation.
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I just watched Eyes Wide Shut and now this picture makes me think of some sex cult.<img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3540/3407687637_a7f678da02.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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Oh yea? I'm only making obvious troll posts since I know I'm gonna get banned anyways. There's actually not any reason why I should always get banned in the first place, and mars already knows I'll just make a new account whenever I want to, but he'll ban me anyways as soon as he finds out my identity lol.
By the way I want to tell you something. My username on10 is a play on on9 which means stupid, so it's only fitting that I should act stupid at times while clearly I am very witty.
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I agree with frozen dream on this being a rather mediocre release and hardly an essential.
The 3 goa tracks here, also by far the best tracks here, are already well released and well known. They are not necessary on this release at all, it's more like filler to have them here yet again, remastered or not (the old mastering was NOT bad...).
Most of the tracks are more like classic trance which is fine since I still like that style. Most of CD1 is actually very good, only track 8, Hemo Static+Overbloody Flood, is extremely crappy and noisy hard trance and requires being skipped over. Unfortunately this kills the mood for the last 2 tracks.
A lot of the tracks on CD2 are just decent or even not good at all, up until the 3 goa classics at the end of course. The unreleased tracks here were not released 10-15 years ago for a reason: they were not good enough to warrant being released.
Things to question:
- Those dumb intro tracks.
- Putting shitty unreleased tracks that should have stayed that way on disc 2 and ending with 3 well known and well available classics.
- A "limited" version with 3 download tracks that should have gone on the CDs at the end of CD2 to start with! I hope someone leaks these tracks for free soon, though judging from the other unreleased stuff there's a good chance they probably suck the worst.
- No info about it put onto the DAT records website??
- The motive? Quite clearly to suck some last drops of money out of BPC, since there was not really any unreleased tracks that needed to be heard here, it was mostly false hype.
Basically you need only buy this if you want to hear the first 3 BPC vinyls and don't already have access to them. Those are mostly good tracks but very preliminary goa trance and more like classic/hard trance. I think CD1 will get the most play by far. I recommend pirating this instead. Why support a release like this by buying it? You won't be missing anything by not having the rather silly artwork. Having this release has nothing to do with survival either, though it think it was a good title to use for marketing.
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We could swap lossless rips if you like.Hehe, the burning* replies of psynews
:lol:(*and ironic replies from onten)
btw,
Is it possible to buy the X-3 track somewhere, maybe?
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Elysium for Orion and Zodiac Youth remixes?
Man With No Name for Storm, Zodiac Youth, and many others (but they aren't all good..).
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I'm curious what you think makes one spiritual.How can I challenge something that isn't there? Everyone can write that he understands the world.
Also, do you think you understand the world? Because I never made that claim but I'm curious if you would.
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I didn't care for this at all. The C.J. Catalizer album was 10x better and the Chronos album was 100x better.
Something tells me the OP is here to promote it for reasons other than it being genuinely good music.
Note also that all the people who rated it 5/5 on discogs so far are uses I've never heard of before. -
Well I try to think of health in a broader scope than just physical health.
Anyways I think I may have been wrong anyways... I wonder how strong the link is between psytrance listening and fast food eating.
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I've been a Christian. And a Buddhist for a much shorter time frame=. I understand both religions and why they existed, for what purpose, and why I don't want to be a part of either of them. I've also been an atheist for an even shorter amount of time. I understand science, I even get my bachelors in it very soon. I understand society and why democracy is a joke and why it came about. I understand what morality is, what truth is, etc. I've gone to the depths of nihilism. I may ascend out of it alive, we'll see.The spiritual content of your posts is the same as sugar in coke light. So why should I believe you?
It's hard living in a world that one views as a joke and surrounded by vastly inferior intellect and/or consciousness. What grounds do you have to challenge my spirituality on?
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Why did people like goa trance music? And do people like psytrance for the same reason?
If the answer is to dance to, then maybe. If the answer is because of their spirituality (something related to intelligence and consciousness) and finding popular music superficial, then maybe not.
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This is a joke, one must only look at your "essentials" list and the type of music you release and promote to see that you are not truly very passionate about the old school style at all.I think there is good and bad music from all time periods. I remain passionate about the old school style even as I enjoy some of the new ideas that are emerging these days.
Greater movement eh? Just like the greater movement of people at rock parties, and people who follow the latest celebrity news, and people who sit in taverns every day drinking? Wake up: this is no cultural movement. These are just ordinary people living ordinary lives (quite often in the lowest echelons of society) who are using music to console themselves. I'm not denying that there might have been a movement in the past, or may still be in remoter areas, but psytrance is much too commercialized now.Pretend otherwise if you like but it just makes you look like more of a fool. As for dance and culture--what I'm saying is that this music is part of a greater social movement that you don't seem to be a part of.
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"he praises this modern music and thinks older goa trance sucks"
He never said old goa trance sucks and why should he think it's shit? I think he has more knowledge about goa trance than you.
"I am a very spiritual person"
Your elitism doesn't reflect that.
Let's just say that from my perspective to yours is somewhat like from your perspective to that of an avid Christian. I have experienced all of these perspectives, you've probably only experienced your own and perhaps that of an avid religious person. I hope you can understand my analogy and admit that there can be things you don't understand.
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They have the right to some privacy but obviously they are choosing not to exercise it. Does this make you angry? Does the attention that others give them make you angry?No, I don't see why they shouldn't have the right to some privacy. It has nothing to do with jealousy.
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Oh, so you're only jealous of the attention but not the girl....Hahaha... no, it's fine for Mr. Barker, but I wonder why anyone else should care
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At least people eating fast food usually do so to save time in their busy schedule. Listening to psytrance is like a drug. It's an activity that thousands of lowlifes around the world participate in in place of accomplishing something useful.Ehm... Why?
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Maybe you misunderstood me?Hence the statement about you not getting it, nor maybe even having the capacity.
On some levels, in some circles, the whole scene doesn't get it anymore
which so heavily indicated by the loads of unlistenable drivel being produced
and the massive amount of festivals parties and clubs dedicated to playing it.
The very fact that you can't embrace the idea that music transcends dance and culture
and the power of the mind and spiritualism and myriad other things shows that you truly
do not get the whole psy music mentality or lifestyle. There is so much more to the music than the obvious.
But it appears you really just don't get it and want to argue and bicker and make noise.
In fact I am calling out Basilisk on these exact grounds: he praises this modern music and thinks older goa trance sucks. He is the one that is assessing the music in terms of dance and culture. My comment that the last 2 didn't fit in was in regards to the modern psy scene and the unlistenable drivel that he so loves.From my understanding most of the scene today doesn't get this any more (= they are not spiritual people). I am a very spiritual person, and hence detest this scene and the modern psytrance music that it forms around.
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Any music can be danced too. The fact that people started calling it "electronic dance music" doesn't make it any more dancing or less non-dancing music.Haha. We're talking about electronic dance music here, don't you realize?
I don't see what the last 2 (probing the human psyche and toying with the secrets of the universe) have to do with it. In fact those are more spiritual activities that may have existed previously in the culture of hippies and goa trance, but hardly exist nowadays in modern psytrance parties, which are mostly devoid of spirituality and closer to rock concerts.Look, psychedelic trance is (and has always been) a cultural movement dedicated to bringing people together to dance, laugh, have fun, probe at the depths of the human psyche, and toy with the secrets of the universe.
Actually the fact that this music has a high BPM and most people dance to it isn't relevant in the least. There is a LOT more to the music than the high BMP and bassline, something that you fail to understand. You fail to see the artistry behind the music and thus mistake goa trance for outdated garbage and think uncreative releases with better production quality and a louder kick are "essentials".If you ever spent some time going to the events that form the basis of this culture then you at least have an understanding of why the music is the way it is and how it works in the context for which it is designed.
I mean considering the people that go to psytrance parties these days, and considering the musical quality of modern psytrance (=not good), that the COP track is played along with Astrix & Eskimo or whatever else doesn't lend it any credibility. I know a lot of people that go to psytrance parties and most of them think goa trance sucks and listen to Lady Gaga all day.Really, now: hearing dance music on a dance floor somehow invalidates its quality? I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.
Sienna Miller's new boyfriend is a psy trance DJ
in General Psytrance
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on10: I sense much anger in him... like his father, Basilisk.
on10: Beware of the dark side my young one. Jealousy, anger, flaming, ; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in posting. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.
Penzoline: on10... Is the dark side stronger?
on10: No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive, but always weaker and envious of the light side.
Penzoline: But how am I to know the good side from the bad?
on10: You will know... when one is calm, at peace, passive. An internet Jedi uses the Force for lulz, never for serious business.