FungalGrowth
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There's a trick i've learnt and been using a bit. I have the kick and the bassline output routed to an EQ to cut out the bass frequencies of the rest of the track when the kick or bassline is playing. This gives the kick and bass it's own room to do it's thing when sounds are flying all over the place, but allows the rest of the mix to have full sounding bass when the kick and bassline arn't playing.
This seperates the kick and the bass from the rest of the track nicely... but I still need alot of work seperating sounds from one another.
Does anyone else do anything like this or have any other tricks? I'll have to have a look at Andi Vaxs vids when I get a chance. Any other good resources? I'm just getting back into trying to produce seriously and the production forums.
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Another possibility is the Behringer BCD2000 or BCD3000. It's one of those DJ midi controllers that has basically all the controlls of 2 dj decks and a mixer. I just bought a BCD2000 off ebay for $200 Australian. It's really cheap so for the price I don't think you can go wrong! Check it out.
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Good morning forum!
I can't remember if I've ever posted a track to these forums before. If I have it would have been quite a while ago. I had a huge setback recently when my computers hard-drive crashed and I lost my entire lifetimes worth of art, music and such... It's taken me a while to get back on my feet and get some tunes out.
This is one I was up all last night working on. It's 3:22 and still very much unfinished. I would love to get some feedback on it. Some praise would be nice to motivate me to continue working on it. And of course lots of constructive criticism so I can make this track as good as possible! Some of the sounds are only placeholder sounds and a couple of sections are a bit... crap. But on the whole I'm fairly happy with how this is shaping up.
For the moment I've dubbed it "Dance of the Elven Machines", but I am am open to any suggestions for a more fitting title! Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to listen to my track, and enjoy
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I'm sure if the artist is popular enough, then the company who owned the rights to the sample would certainly want to extort the artist for an obscene amount of money for permission to use something that essentially isn't worth much... Luckily though I think all psytrance would fly under the radar. I remember Infected Mushroom use to use movie samples in their songs, but don't anymore. Do you think they could get away with it these days with their popularity?but, what i heard can get you in real big trouble is using samples from hollywood movies, those fuckers will hunt you down
But arn't there laws regarding using small amounts of other artists material legally? The law's probably different here in Australia too, but I've never really been entirely sure what it is. Doesn't seem too unfair that if someone appropriates very small amounts of other peoples work for remixes or whatnot, that it should be fair use. But obviously not stealing entire songs with a few minor changes... Laws preventing any use of other peoples work to create something new sounds pretty stifling to artists and music as an artform. Especially these days with electronic music as big as it is, and growing...
Anyone heard of Negativland? They're an awesome sound collage artist that make brilliant music from essentially all samples. But they couldn't be able to exist with such harsh laws... although I think they do anyway, but not without legal problems. Like when they used samples from a U2 song, and they were sued by the record company (without consulting the actual band, of course). Which in itself is pretty sad.
But is using any amount of someone elses work legal? Or is it just enough you can get away with without having the samples recognised?
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So is that $600 budget in australian or US dollars? I'm from Sydney myself
Either way I recommend the M-Audio Axiom. It comes in 29, 49 or 61 key variants and has 8 360* rotary knobs, 9 sliders, 8 drum pads and pitch and modulation wheels. It's sexy black with a blue LCD. I don't have one but I plan to buy one or receive one as a birthday/christmas present
It has a pretty generous amount of controls for a fair price IMO, Here's the product page http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Axiom49-main.htmlThey're selling them locally at Venue Music (Sydney music store) for $649 for the 49 key variety or $749 for the 61 key version. I plan to buy mine off ebay though since it will cost about $430 AUD. However you won't get the warranty. So buy locally if you want to play it safe. Here's venue music's page http://www.venuemusic.com.au/SearchResults.asp
Hope I've been of some help!
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DiscoDSP Discovery is a great synth. It's modelled after a Nord Lead, and sounds great! Use the red skin to make it look like a Nord too!
http://www.discodsp.com/discovery/
Linplug Albino 3. Another one of the most popular softsynths in psy. It sounds great! I hear Derango uses it extensively. That's good enough for me
http://www.linplug.com/Products/Albino_3/albino_3.htm
Hope I've been of help
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Oh yeah! I've got a couple more to add.
Ka-Sol - Waspnest
Delivers what it promises
Ka-Sol - Flying Carpet
There is something arabic and flying carpety about this song
Ka-Sol - Whalebacktrack
Sounds like a whale
Come to think of it, Ka-Sol is quite good at making songs that sound like their name
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I've listened to the album and that track millions of times (probably more times than you have
), and I don't find it tiresome at all! It doesn't last all that long. And the whole album isn't riddled with samples like this unlike a certain album from Nystagmus which does get on my nerves a bit. If you want to hear overuse of a sample listen to Tommy is Dead. It has a very similiar speech in it. Only it comes back again and again throughout the whole track. 
I think it can be screwed up, OR used to great effect! Ever heard the intro to The Poisonous Square by Derango? Best intro and sample ever!
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Am I the only one that likes the vocals on People are Animals!? I think they're trippy, set a nice mental image and perfectly set up the tone of the track! The effects on the voice are awesomely mindbending!
And the vocal samples on Trust No Goblin make the track
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Check out the mother of all basslines thread at isratrance. Has stacks of info on basslines.
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/...c/56391/forum/2
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Talpa - Trust No Goblin
I sure wouldn't listen trust any goblins after listening to this!
Can't think of any more... Maybe later.
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Hello everyone!
This is not yet another thread asking which is better for music production.
I'm curious to know just how many people use PC or Macs for their music production, and how they feel about their platform, and the advantages and disadvantages they see of both PCs and Macs.I'm curious because a friend of mine is trying to tell me how much Macs are better than PC's. He states that Macs are better for music production than PCs because the hardware is better integrated with software. And says "Walk into any major recording studio and you'll see they use Mac's". I don't know what truth there is to this. Thus my question. I'd like some information so I can make a successfull argument as to why PCs are just as good as Macs for music production
Anyway, discuss
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Ok, I found a short 11 second clip of Derango and Horror Place performing live.
Lazers!
Someone please find a liveset of Derango for me! I'll be forever in your debt
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You lucky, lucky bastard! That must have been so awesome!
I don't think I'll ever get the oppurtunity to see them live
Anyone have any liveset vids of Derango!?!?
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Hey! This stuff is pretty good from what i've heard of the samples! I agree with your description of this album perfectly. Some of the melodies are very Infected Mushroom sounding. And I'm digging the kind of medieval vibe. There needs to be more medieval psytrance! Though this isn't psytrance at all. Not sure what the genre is actually...
I'll have to look into this one furthur. May end up buying the CD too! Since I've been impressed with the samples thus far. That's always a good sign!
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I wasn't actually directing that comment at you! There's a few people I've heard say the same thing about Talpa, except generally in a much more negative fashion. I understand what you mean about the groove/trance. I actually love very busy psytrance, as it means I always have something to listen to and focus on. Generally repetitive psytrance bores me, and just becomes background sound. Whereas with busy psytrance I can actively listen to everything that's happening OR just tune out and get into the trance if I choose. Whereas if there's too little going on, I get bored trying to actively listen to it. All the insanity is also very good for PsychadelicsI didn't intend my comment to be negative. I actually like his music, but in very small doses because there's just so much activity in it and I don't like having to pay THAT much attention to music for any length of time. I'd say the most negative thing I can say about his album is that it never actually gets into a groove (a trance), but then again it seems most psytrance these days is made to overwhelm and astound with wall-to-wall, wacked-out sound rather than entrance with a solid groove and some catchy melodies like it was in the beginning (goa).
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Definately check it out if you're even the least bit intrigued. Talpa's first album has risen to become one of my favourite psytrance albums of all time. And one of my favourite psytrance artists of all time. He is definately extremely skilled and talented in making music. Noone can accuse him of following other people's formula's, or lacking uniqueness and ingenuity. In a genre where many people are complaining about a lack of originality and the repitiveness and formulaic qualities of most psytrance, there's too little psytrance around like this to afford to miss out.
Like some people mentioned earlier, Talpa's music is very psychedelic with lots of sounds flying all over the joint. Some people don't like how intensely psychedelic it is. I got into psychedelic trance because it's supposed to be psychedelic. Most psytrance is dismal in the psychedelic department. I yearn for more psychedelic trance that is actually psychedelic and not just trance.
You owe it to yourself to at least download a couple of tracks. Like for example "Trust No Goblin" or "Flybeereligion". And if you like it, buy the album
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Based on the samples and how much I love the previous album, there is no way in hell that I wouldn't get this album as soon as it's released.
Detectives on the Run: A nice groovy bassline. Great percussion as usual. The voice/siren thing is rather trippy I like the clarinet-type instrument that seems to float about mischievously through the track. The melodies have definately improved and matured a lot! Something about this song definately reminds me of Detectives. Kind of like a Pink Panther vibe or something. I like it!
When the Somberness Become a Game: Something a bit faster now! Nice trippy sounds flying about. Awesome choir sounds and other synths give this track a nice epic feel and a sense of urgency! I recognise one of the trippy voices from Four Leaved Clovers, but it's ok, because it's such a cool sound!
So essentially, I am very pleased with these samples and the direction this new album appears to be taking! The style has definately changed since the first album, and become more refined. These two tracks plus Four Leaved Clovers seem to have a very strong style, as opposed to The Art of Being Non, where most of the tracks were very different (which I loved). The melodies have changed alot from the first one. Instead of the simpler, repeated melodies, their are more complex melodic arrangements. Making it sound more like regular music (like classical) instead of psytrance, which is great! The use or more regular instruments rather than synths contributes to this aswell.
Hopefully there'll also be some more twisted and psychedelic tracks on this album like Trust No Goblin. I hope that even though the style has become more focussed, that there will be a good variety of different styles like the last album too. I cannot wait to get my hands on it!
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Savage Scream, or Horror Place
Edit: Oh yeah, how could I forget. It's not "evil", but it is dark and hard: Derango!
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You know, in many cases when there's a live set announced here and the project is just one person then you just got a personal appearance from the artist, most sounds coming from a pre-mastered CD or laptop set and one or two layers played live on a synth, a few knobs twisted and that is it. Or they screw the playing of the two layers and focus on arranging (which is mostly just pretentiousness, because it's pre-arranged ... but whatever). But that is it. When you're just one person you are pretty limited in this way anyway.
Out of curiosity, what other stuff would you like to see a single person perform live?
Just curious in case I ever get to that point
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I don't think this could be any more true! I've done it myself before when I've been composing. I'll just make a really cool melody, and later on while listening to some music I'd realise - to my horror - that I'd inadvertently made a melody very similiar to one already done before. Sometimes I've really like the melody too, so it's a toss-up to decide whether it's too close to the original, or whether it's different enough that you won't be accused of ripping the original artist off.But it's easy to copy someone else without wanting to. Many artists use the same sample CD's (boring) or the same presets on the vsti synths and even original melodies can sound un-original and "ripped off" because subconsious you have melodies playing in your head that you heard in the past.
So I don't think it's unlikely that professional psytrance producers would do the exact same thing. They may not even realise that they've done it. I guess it depends exactly how similiar the melodies are. If they're almost completely identical and use a similiar, if not exact same synth sound, then they're likely a ripoff. Especially if the rest of their style doesn't seem to be very unique either. But if the melody only sounds similiar, or just resembles the original melody, it's likely that they did it by accident. In which case you shouldn't judge the artist too harshly, as it's possible they don't even know they've accidently made a similiar melody to one used already. You really have to decide yourself just how similiar they are, and whether the rest of the track's originality can make up for it.
In regards to Nystagmus, I must be an idiot. I cannot hear these similarities everyone keeps mentioning at all! I listened to Consciousness followed by the Shen and didn't hear anything similiar! I don't think Nystagmus is very similiar to Infected Mushroom at all. So it's pretty likely it was unintentional... Of course I'd take Infected Mushroom over Nystagmus any day.
And yeah, most music rips off other music. Making something completely unique and original almost never happens. It's the same with art, or anything really. There's only a finite amount of different notes and scales to use. Society is built on taking what's already been done and improving on it. My art teacher at school use to always say "You don't have to re-invent the wheel," and it's very true. You have to use the knowledge of what people have done before you, if you want to make good music.
That's why you shouldn't pick out bits of music and decide how similiar it is to something else. A song can include lots of elements from other music, yet still the whole song overall can be very unique! It's the big picture you need to look at, and not the individual elements that make it up!
Shadow Moses - Demo 1
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A compilation of my last 5 years of electronic music production! Entirely experimental electronic. It drifts into varying electronic genres; Psytrance, Orchestral, IDM, Folk, Breakcore etc. I am trying to evolve through and beyond Psy into other Electronic and non-electronic genres. Those who enjoy the more eclectic types of Psytrance should find something to like
I know there's alot of tracks! I recommend clicking about until something grabs you. The tracks vary in style and level of completion.
Tracklist:
1. Anonymous Title Music - 2:01 (2010) - Orchestral Psytrance
2. Now Entering the Cyberscape - 1:58 (2010) - Psytrance
3. Anybody Up There? - 3:58 (2007) - Psytrance
4. Neon Samurai - 3:40 (2007) - Asian / Psytrance
5. Foke Dope - 2:53 (2010) - Folk Psytrance
6. Melty Painting Waltz - 1:02 (2010) - Orchestral Instrumental
7. Draculas Castle - 1:32 (2010) - Orchestral Psytrance
8. Dark Medieval Times - 4:31 (2009) - Dark Psytrance
9. Conjurer of Cheap Tricks - 5:05 (2009) - Industrial / IDM
10. Ommpa Hummpa - 8:56 (2009) - Folk Psytrance
11. Make Kids Wish They Was Never Born - 4:09 (2009) - Industrial
12. Zombie Crunch Breakfast Cereal - 2:58 (2010) - Metal / Electronic
13. Keeping the Patient Alive - 3:16 (2009) - IDM / Breakcore
14. God of Death - 5:31 (2008) - Dark Psytrance
15. Sits Around all Day Babbling - 5:00 (2009) - Dark Psytrance
16. You Want to Be - 4:00 (2010) - Psychill
17. Don't Listen to this Man, My Lord - 4:57 (2009) - Dark Psytrance
18. Noone can tell Me - 3:36 (2009) - Psytrance
19. All Your Base - 1:34 (2010) - Breakbeat
20. Evil Imps (Lost Forever) - 4:12 (2006) - Psytrance
21. Dance of the Elven Machines - 3:22 (2007) - Psytrance
Enjoy! Please leave any comments; like/dislike/critique. All very welcome!