buzzman Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Then you need to buy a better Hifi-set +1 I put on headphones if it's past 10 pm(to spare my nabours from my psychotic taste in music Otherwise it's the hi-fi that is my choice... You can hear all the sounds on the headphones, but it's like the space between the basstones and the rest gets too big compared to my lovely soundsystem.. Nothing beats when the whole room gets light up in sounds instead of the direct in-ear experience you get from headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideffect... Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I have no neighbors so I'm a noisemaker :posford: , it more depends on the music I'm playing, progressive mostly on speakers, euphoric or melodic trance on speakers or headphones, (so fullon, morning trance, goatrance) ambient always on speakers the rest like rock, reggea on speakers unless it's a super album I know by head... listening music using headphones is like 100% brain activity to the music, it's more crystal clear and easier to get the concept... each evening I have a headphone session, listening to some track that I know and guarantee satisfaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I have big ears & live alone so I go for speakers. If I fancy really loud music late at night though I will don my headphones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damagedone Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I have some really good Bose noise reduction over-ear headphones and I've been listening to music almost exclusively with them since I got them. However, I have recently unpacked my Sony 5.2 system and I will be blasting out the music as soon as I get the house to myself. I do like to be fully immersed in the music so it either has to be in my ear (preferably with noise reduction) or up loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorn726 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 i would prefer speakers any day... you cant ever get enough sub out of headphones, but i do LOVE my wireless(of course wireless=even less bass oh well) headphones for after hours. sucks living in a thin walled building but my neighbors are pretty cool so at least i can bump it Up during regular hours. main reason i prefer speakers over headphones is the four speaker effect of being surrounded (not using surround sound) even if i cant always crank it all the way up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 You could buy one of these nemo: http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimateears/...description.php They're custom made to fit your ears, and with the price of only $1150.00 they will make sure your wallet goes on a very long diet. The company got bought by logitech a while ago tho.. Save yourself 500$ and get the triple.fi's instead, it's the same thing sans the custom fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Save yourself 500$ and get the triple.fi's instead, it's the same thing sans the custom fit.Actually I'm not that rich to buy any of that stuff. Only got a 20 in the pocket, and a fat minus in the bank. Mmmm.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 meh psytrance isn't psytrance if you don't listen to it on speakers IMO... part of the listening experience is the bone-rattling bassline (especially with new stuff... anyone say dark psy? lol). If you don't turn that volume up and feel the bass then you are definetly missing something IMO. I only use headphones when speaker-listening is out of the question (too late at night, girlfriend is taking a nap, guests at home etc...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniël Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 headphones & speakers both have their unique functions, i really can't choose, it's like asking if i like icecream with strawberry or banana... mmmhhh, banana icecream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needle ninja Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 I prefer speakers. The closed headphones I use get hot after a while and I like to move around too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 meh psytrance isn't psytrance if you don't listen to it on speakers IMO... part of the listening experience is the bone-rattling bassline (especially with new stuff... anyone say dark psy? lol). If you don't turn that volume up and feel the bass then you are definetly missing something IMO. I only use headphones when speaker-listening is out of the question (too late at night, girlfriend is taking a nap, guests at home etc...) I actually can enjoy Darkpsy without the bass vibrations. After all I was never a bass addict, and especially in Drakpsy if the bass is too loud you miss a lot of the details that you can enjoy with headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melancholyman Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 tell me when you found a pair of earphones that you can lay on the side on without being bugged, cause I prefer the same, but I can not lay on my back all the time... Same here, that's the problem since it's very hard to fall asleep on you're back...grrr I totally agree that certainly psytrance or many ambient releases for that matter is really ment for a speaker setup. The bass has a function, and you can never get the same feeling even with very expensive headphones. And speakers can be just as revealing as headphones, you only nee to spend ALOT more money for it but the experience is many times greater aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryll Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 home listening.. ? well.. i have only my headphone i use for mixing it has tiny fitting ear-cups, so doesn't have good accoustics on the low freq's my speakers are still in reparation (troubles with the wiring or servo's it seems) for home listening: i'd prefer a headphone with large ear-cups, a massive sennheiser for example, with a very long wire but some music just doesn't work on headphones... a good stereo setup widens up the sound, giving it more space to move in so it depends if u choose a headphone for home listening id go for things like these: if u want speakers for home listening, be sure NOT to put them on the floor best is to place them at a height where the tweeters are about the same level as your ears, or just a bit lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p(sy)ayam Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 grado rs1 + amp senn hd650 (+amp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melancholyman Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 if u want speakers for home listening, be sure NOT to put them on the floor best is to place them at a height where the tweeters are about the same level as your ears, or just a bit lower What should one do with floorstanders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryll Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 What should one do with floorstanders? if u have them floorlevel, try to put them in an angle so they're aimed a bit upwards if u have an open space between you and the speakers, then you only have a minor difference problem is that high frequency's are too directional every object that stands in between the speakers and the listener will act as obstacle for high frequencies high freq = short wavelength -> so they reflect on objects low freq = long wavelength -> they can wave around objects low frequencies (50 till 200 Hz) are undirectional, so they fill the room high frequencies are directional, the source of these can be clearly distinguished having high frequencies placed at a height between ears and chest (imo) give the cleares and most direct sound plus you have a better resonance of the lower frequencies (as i experienced) it seems that woofers on groundfloor speakers lose a bit of fullness or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p(sy)ayam Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 just out of curiosity how about having them up in the wall/ceiling corner facing downwards? i'm going to set up my speakers (4 in 4 corners, subwoofer under my desk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryll Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 just out of curiosity how about having them up in the wall/ceiling corner facing downwards? i'm going to set up my speakers (4 in 4 corners, subwoofer under my desk) looks like a safe setup (regarding high frequencies for the 4 speakers) but don't have any knowledge or experience when it comes to that (mid to high) speakers have an angle of 45° where they give most power, so i guess placing them in the top with an angle downwards would maximize the effect, and lower the amount of first reflections via the ceiling and side walls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melancholyman Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 if u have them floorlevel, try to put them in an angle so they're aimed a bit upwards if u have an open space between you and the speakers, then you only have a minor difference problem is that high frequency's are too directional every object that stands in between the speakers and the listener will act as obstacle for high frequencies high freq = short wavelength -> so they reflect on objects low freq = long wavelength -> they can wave around objects low frequencies (50 till 200 Hz) are undirectional, so they fill the room high frequencies are directional, the source of these can be clearly distinguished having high frequencies placed at a height between ears and chest (imo) give the cleares and most direct sound plus you have a better resonance of the lower frequencies (as i experienced) it seems that woofers on groundfloor speakers lose a bit of fullness or something Thx for the head up :clapping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen dream Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 headphones all the way. i prefer music to be fully 'in my head' than coming somewhere out of 'reality'.meh, u got it all wrong, stereo image/depth is totally worthless on any headphones. U might think it isn't, but trust me, it is. the only reason you think it's fully in your head is because the source is close to the ear but the technology/mechanics of headphones are far more flawed than any larger speaker. headphones is 2D (freq and pan) and speakers is 3D (freq-pan-acoustic response) of course these differences only really play out when were talking music production-wise since finished tracks already have all the traits to sound good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffymushi Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 2D is trippier than 3D sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen dream Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 point taken! gotta luv the good ol' snes!!! *goes playing* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideffect... Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 if u want speakers for home listening, be sure NOT to put them on the floor best is to place them at a height where the tweeters are about the same level as your ears, or just a bit lower exactly, I made myself some floor standers, easy job, not wanting to pay some fancy once @ IKEA , if it's that easy to make, followed the instruction along with my B&W speakers... and still satisfied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 meh, u got it all wrong, stereo image/depth is totally worthless on any headphones. U might think it isn't, but trust me, it is. the only reason you think it's fully in your head is because the source is close to the ear but the technology/mechanics of headphones are far more flawed than any larger speaker. headphones is 2D (freq and pan) and speakers is 3D (freq-pan-acoustic response) of course these differences only really play out when were talking music production-wise since finished tracks already have all the traits to sound good. That's true, but the only way to fully enjoy the pan in speakers is to sit exactly in front of them, unlike headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryll Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 exactly, I made myself some floor standers, easy job, not wanting to pay some fancy once @ IKEA , if it's that easy to make, using flipped curver boxes overhere they'll do for now hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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