radi6404 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 The fact that they only porduce remixes of other tracks shows that they are very uncreative at this time. They don`t even have a few ideas to create some fresh tracks but instead create Remixes with midi files they´d get from the artists. The artists ofcourse don`t have any concerms giving the midi data, because they are benefitting from it when people see them mentioned in new tracks remixed by such a popular artists as Astral Projection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angular_sound Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 d2kx #700 : "Also: Prana - Mugen (Astral Projection Remix) is out now!" Ache...Sounds quite tired for me. radi whole #702 : My guess is that they're just naturally getting old. The "sacred fire" of their earlier years is going away. I personnaly notice this progressive lack of creativity in my own life as well as in several other artists' going on. To me that's just Life as it is. I wonder if anyone reading this has heard a 10 min mix featuring astrix and astral projection and 2 others i forgot. I got the file on a peer to peer network a few years ago : on it was a version of "The Prophecy" wich had hebrew lyrics and a higher sound quality than the original mix. The track's name started by ICQ -... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2kx Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The fact that they only porduce remixes of other tracks shows that they are very uncreative at this time. They don`t even have a few ideas to create some fresh tracks but instead create Remixes I don't want to go into detail, but let's just say that this is not the case. New original tracks are ready or in progress, but they want to get all the remixes out first. There will be a couple more in the next few weeks... compared to 2009-2012, they are now a lot more in the studio again. My guess is that they're just naturally getting old. The "sacred fire" of their earlier years is going away. I personnaly notice this progressive lack of creativity in my own life as well as in several other artists' going on. To me that's just Life as it is. This is somewhat true. Of course you will not see them dancing like a crazy hippy on LSD or whatever at any future shows. Also, the progressive side is a bit slower etc. than oldschool Goa and Full On etc., but that is not simply because people are getting older but for different reasons. Faster and more hectic is not always better, and more hard for new people to get into. I wonder if anyone reading this has heard a 10 min mix featuring astrix and astral projection and 2 others i forgot. I got the file on a peer to peer network a few years ago : on it was a version of "The Prophecy" wich had hebrew lyrics and a higher sound quality than the original mix. No idea, but did you hear the new Astrix - Trance For Nations 012 mix? It is absolutely fantastic and quite the opposite of "getting older and more boring". But since Psynews.org is basicly an "I only like oldschool Goa" forum, you may not like it anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 But since Psynews.org is basicly an "I only like oldschool Goa" forum Please don't imagine that Radi's opinions are representative of Psynews as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Please don't imagine that Radi's opinions are representative of Psynews as a whole. Hah, what a nice opportunity to make my name bad among new members of this forum, isn´t it? Where do I say I only like oldschool or where do I say I hate every style of newschool. If you havn`t noticed, the last time I am mentioning many newschool artists as being good so your claim and way of trying to lower my reputation is not working. On many occasions I even have mentioned that Astrix is one of the better full on artists and that I especially like "Science is God". I think Rotwang, if you really want to lower my reputation, you have to wake up a littl eearlier than this, because what you say are simply lies. For example that I only like oldschool, absolutely untrue, so stay with the truth, Rotwang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpongled247 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I don't want to go into detail, but let's just say that this is not the case. New original tracks are ready or in progress, but they want to get all the remixes out first. There will be a couple more in the next few weeks... compared to 2009-2012, they are now a lot more in the studio again. This is somewhat true. Of course you will not see them dancing like a crazy hippy on LSD or whatever at any future shows. Also, the progressive side is a bit slower etc. than oldschool Goa and Full On etc., but that is not simply because people are getting older but for different reasons. Faster and more hectic is not always better, and more hard for new people to get into. No idea, but did you hear the new Astrix - Trance For Nations 012 mix? It is absolutely fantastic and quite the opposite of "getting older and more boring". But since Psynews.org is basicly an "I only like oldschool Goa" forum, you may not like it anyways. Heyyyyy we like new school here too mate lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ion1zed Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The fact that they only porduce remixes of other tracks shows that they are very uncreative at this time. They don`t even have a few ideas to create some fresh tracks but instead create Remixes with midi files they´d get from the artists. The artists ofcourse don`t have any concerms giving the midi data, because they are benefitting from it when people see them mentioned in new tracks remixed by such a popular artists as Astral Projection. Stfu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richpa Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The fact that they only porduce remixes of other tracks shows that they are very uncreative at this time. They don`t even have a few ideas to create some fresh tracks but instead create Remixes with midi files they´d get from the artists. The artists ofcourse don`t have any concerms giving the midi data, because they are benefitting from it when people see them mentioned in new tracks remixed by such a popular artists as Astral Projection. Que? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Heyyyyy we like new school here too mate lol exactly No idea, but did you hear the new Astrix - Trance For Nations 012 mix? It is absolutely fantastic and quite the opposite of "getting older and more boring". But since Psynews.org is basicly an "I only like oldschool Goa" forum, you may not like it anyways. it's not only about goa, some of us actually like good progressive psy. i just checked out the astrix mix and i have to say, it's not as bad as i expected. there's a lot of cringeworthy more-minimal-than-psy sound in there, but some of the tracks i could dance to (the zyce track for instance). so i'm pleasantly surprised by astrix not going all the way to minimal that's totally devoid of psychedelic elements - as is popular at the moment - after his departure from decency with the cheese fullon that was popular a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desysko Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 exactly it's not only about goa, some of us actually like good progressive psy. i just checked out the astrix mix and i have to say, it's not as bad as i expected. there's a lot of cringeworthy more-minimal-than-psy sound in there, but some of the tracks i could dance to (the zyce track for instance). so i'm pleasantly surprised by astrix not going all the way to minimal that's totally devoid of psychedelic elements - as is popular at the moment - after his departure from decency with the cheese fullon that was popular a few years ago. Man, what will he do next? Psytrap? ahaha. Can someone explain me what's this more-minimal-than-psy that i've been seeing complained about? I haven't listened to much of 2010-2013 besides for most Goa stuff from Suntrip, Lyctum,, and Ovnimoon (and others that I can't remember at the moment but you get the idea). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imba Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Really nice morning stuff! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajkocIaTnBo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Damn, it's GOOOD!!! YES, goa is now REALLY back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imba Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Damn, it's GOOOD!!! YES, goa is now REALLY back I just hope some retro legends will lead example of AP and come back to goa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpongled247 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Remixes are decent enough yupp. Still want to hear if they can make new stuff though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Man, what will he do next? Psytrap? ahaha. Can someone explain me what's this more-minimal-than-psy that i've been seeing complained about? I haven't listened to much of 2010-2013 besides for most Goa stuff from Suntrip, Lyctum,, and Ovnimoon (and others that I can't remember at the moment but you get the idea). that's somewhere between this: and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V02zrp5bYZo or something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC0-PHN045M so it's basically sped up minimal with varying amounts of progressive-psy sounds inserted here and there (or sometimes alternatively minimal with a prog beat). the sad thing is that when you go to a party that advertises "progressive psytrance" and you don't know that the artist does make good music (aforementioned ovnimoon, lyctum, ...), then you are most likely going to hear this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephistopheles Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 36 pages and counting .... aren't we all just suckers ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desysko Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Ya, when I first saw this board, I was flipping out because I didn't know that they did. But then when I checked online and discogs, I found out they did not and this is just a discussion. I was so disappointed that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 36 pages and counting .... aren't we all just suckers ... We are and we wil all buy the Eps and all go to the parties, which means easy money for Astral Projection yet again. Instead of delivering real new tracks, what they have been doing lately is only producing remixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penzoline Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Mugen remix is fantastic, they really enhanced the atmosphere and remade it properly for 2013 standards. No full-on bassline! What has the world come to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritual om Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 ooohhhhh lord!!!! that is astral's elite sound, what we all love, what we all expected and waited for!!!! 3:50...summoning the spirit!!!! 6:33...build ups the astral way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbelaar Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 It is a great track! Powerful and floating. But as Radi is pointing out: I would like to hear some 'real' new material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 New remixes can't compare to AP's old tracks IMHO. The most of their old stuff is absolutely exceptional and honestly I think no other track compare to them, for many reasons. Even if they will not release some new tracks, what they already did is enough for ultimate respect. You can't really expect from artists to have the same very special creativity period as they had long time ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 A box set. 1 cd of remastered classics, 1 cd of new stuff, 1 cd of them riding classics & a dvd of live footage with some studio time. I'll pay $100USD for that. Classic has to include Powergen & Liquid Sun remastered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 A box set. 1 cd of remastered classics, 1 cd of new stuff, 1 cd of them riding classics & a dvd of live footage with some studio time. I'll pay $100USD for that. Classic has to include Powergen & Liquid Sun remastered bonus dvd with astral does dallas!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaISM Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Just checking in. No new album yet, but those remixes will do for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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