kagdila Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 to all, hello ppl who ever intresting in that particular rare cd please contcat with me few left over and then no more. purchse your stuff before x-mas time. contcat at : infos@kagdilarecords.com big respect all kagdila records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 purchse your stuff before x-mas time....and if you like it, please drop a PayPal donation on O_O_O_D (at) yahoo (dot) com - we don't make any money from these sales at all. big respect all C. x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyGoatDelic Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 ...and if you like it, please drop a PayPal donation on O_O_O_D (at) yahoo (dot) com - we don't make any money from these sales at all. C. x well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 ...and if you like it, please drop a PayPal donation on O_O_O_D (at) yahoo (dot) com - we don't make any money from these sales at all. C. x How much bra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsu Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 ...and if you like it, please drop a PayPal donation on O_O_O_D (at) yahoo (dot) com - we don't make any money from these sales at all. C. x I've bought mine directly from you (or your label) after finding your email in the reviews thread of the album. Together with the second album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faze Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I've bought mine directly from you (or your label) after finding your email in the reviews thread of the album. Together with the second album. I tried to as well, but I got lost in the shuffle I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 ...and if you like it, please drop a PayPal donation on O_O_O_D (at) yahoo (dot) com - we don't make any money from these sales at all. How come? How was the contract for the CD constructed? As I understand those are not new pressings, just the old ones stacked in someone's cellar. You wasn't paid for all the CDs that were printed? Or you just agreed on a fixed fee and didn't had % of sales? Give us some more detail on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 How come? How was the contract for the CD constructed? As I understand those are not new pressings, just the old ones stacked in someone's cellar. You wasn't paid for all the CDs that were printed? Or you just agreed on a fixed fee and didn't had % of sales? Give us some more detail on this do you ever shut up? i mean seriously, go to private message. stop instigating your shit in everybody's thread, 4 REEL SRSLY K?!?!K!!THX!!!! p.s. instead of questioning, maybe you should do some research on the oldskool not-labels, but distribution companies who not only fucked the labels but fucked the artists in the process of fucking the labels mr. always know it all artur. this was repeated behavior with psy labels [and many other non psy labels] and still carries the tradition onward even today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyGoatDelic Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 do you ever shut up? i mean seriously, go to private message. stop instigating your shit in everybody's thread, 4 REEL SRSLY K?!?!K!!THX!!!! p.s. instead of questioning, maybe you should do some research on the oldskool not-labels, but distribution companies who not only fucked the labels but fucked the artists in the process of fucking the labels mr. always know it all artur. this was repeated behavior with psy labels [and many other non psy labels] and still carries the tradition onward even today. sounds personal... I don't agree with his questions but I don't think your comment was appropriate. either way, none of my biz, nor yours peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 How come? How was the contract for the CD constructed? As I understand those are not new pressings, just the old ones stacked in someone's cellar. You wasn't paid for all the CDs that were printed? Or you just agreed on a fixed fee and didn't had % of sales? Give us some more detail on this The album was distributed through Flying, which went bankrupt shortly after the release. It was a regular deal with %royalties, but the label never paid properly and after Flying went down, they were unable to even if they'd wanted. Flying's stock was sold off to recoup the company's losses, however the liability to pay artist royalties was not sold with it (ie. the sale was 'unencumbered' - like us artists are such a burden to the CD-selling industry). I can only presume this was the route by which Kagdila came by stock of the album. The rights to the album have reverted to us and as far as I know, Kagdila strictly speaking no longer has the right to sell aLIVE; whilst it's a bit of a wierd situation we don't mind much - good luck to them, glad the music's still getting out there somehow EDIT: To clarify, Kagdila is under no obligation to pay us anything for the copies of aLIVE they sell, as they bought the stock when the original distributors went bankrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 do you ever shut up? i mean seriously, go to private message. stop instigating your shit in everybody's thread, 4 REEL SRSLY K?!?!K!!THX!!!! p.s. instead of questioning, maybe you should do some research on the oldskool not-labels, but distribution companies who not only fucked the labels but fucked the artists in the process of fucking the labels mr. always know it all artur. this was repeated behavior with psy labels [and many other non psy labels] and still carries the tradition onward even today. What's your problem? I'm not investigating MY shit, just want to know more about old-school scene, because I'm interested in the music and everything surrounding it. And asking publicly might benefit other people, who are curious about how the scene worked back then. I know there were a lot of scams then and people weren't paid etc. but I do not have knowledge of every single instance of such case. Not everyone has been in the scene for ages, not everyone know the artists, not everyone has kick-ass big collection of rare stuff etc. If Colin would feel offended or thought it is too personal he'd have not replied or replied by PM. So, maybe it is you who should shut up? sounds personal... I don't agree with his questions but I don't think your comment was appropriate. What you mean? How can one disagree with questions?! Normally, when there is a contract between artists and label he gets pay for each copy of CD sold, so if someone finds in his cellar a crate with D5 albums it means they must have been sold back then and the artist got his cut. It is irrelevant that they were only costing 10E back then, and now they can fetch up to 500E (or whatever). It is probably ethically wrong, but that is how free market works. Now it is completely another story if label went down and never paid. But even then, when Colin wrote "we don't make any money from these sales at all" he, maybe unintentionally, implied that he SHOULD be getting his cut from those sales. Which he clearly isn't entitled to, like he explained in another mail. So, don't jump at me guys trying to crucify me for wanting to know the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Now it is completely another story if label went down and never paid. But even then, when Colin wrote "we don't make any money from these sales at all" he, maybe unintentionally, implied that he SHOULD be getting his cut from those sales. Which he clearly isn't entitled to, like he explained in another mail.The way it feels to me is that morally, we should be getting paid from the sales of unopened CDs of our music. Legally, we aren't entitled. Sorry if my first post confused things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyGoatDelic Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 What you mean? How can one disagree with questions?! So, don't jump at me guys trying to crucify me for wanting to know the details. I just thought that maybe it's Colin's business and the questions are too inquiring.. but anyway! he is here and can reply by himself so count me out of this debate please perhaps someone will move this debate to off-topic section, ethically or not, it's kagdila's business and not ours, not on this section at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visine Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 investigating . He said "instigating". I don't know if it matters but "instigating" and "investigating" are two different words which might lead to sligh misunderstanding of what Devious meant. Not sure though, but I thought it'd be worthwhile to point that out. Back on this topic, there is a super rare version of "A Live" with a different, alterantive cover I bought straight from the source back in the day Not sure if Colin has any more of those left but this might be your chance to score that edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 The way it feels to me is that morally, we should be getting paid from the sales of unopened CDs of our music. Legally, we aren't entitled. Sorry if my first post confused things. No, it wasn't confusing. It just triggered my curiosity as to why you're asking for your cut on those CDs and now I understand it. Can you hear Devious?! It's called 'asking' - that's how people request for information they can't obtain themselves. Yeah, you're right I should have done it via PM, but that's not good enough a reason for you to react like you did... And if it bothers you so much, I'll ask the mods to remove my comment on your synthporn thread, because I guess that's what you meant by "stop instigating your shit in everybody's thread"... I just thought that maybe it's Colin's business and the questions are too inquiring.. but anyway! he is here and can reply by himself so count me out of this debate please perhaps someone will move this debate to off-topic section, ethically or not, it's kagdila's business and not ours, not on this section at least Yeah, good idea. Sorry Kagdila He said "instigating". I don't know if it matters but "instigating" and "investigating" are two different words which might lead to sligh misunderstanding of what Devious meant. Not sure though, but I thought it'd be worthwhile to point that out. Oh, didn't noticed it. I'm not a native English speaker (obviously ), so I've matched the word I saw with closest similar word I knew Anyway, after checking it in the dictionary it doesn't change the meaning that much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Ah well, I'm glad you asked the question. I was curious about the answer but not quite curious enough to ask myself. & if it was done via PM I would never have seen the answer. I think devious is having his monthly visitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Full album available for download here: http://www.oood.net/public/OOOD_-_aLIVE_-_...nc._artwork.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Full album available for download here: http://www.oood.net/public/OOOD_-_aLIVE_-_...nc._artwork.zip Colin, I love you. -d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damon Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Full album available for download here: http://www.oood.net/public/OOOD_-_aLIVE_-_...nc._artwork.zip ICE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyGoatDelic Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Full album available for download here: http://www.oood.net/public/OOOD_-_aLIVE_-_...nc._artwork.zip :clapping: what a gentleman! thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Thanks a lot :posford: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishworthyangel Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Ahh, one of my top 3 psy albums of all times. I remember finding it in sister ray on berwick st, probably 96 or 97. Blew me away, as amazing as prana cyclone and astral projection another world. Love and peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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