bricktop Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 In order to further the propagation of the Psytrance/Goa genre, it would be a great help to come up with a list of Essential Artists and Tracks. Once a good list is created, I'd suggest you pin it to the top of the General forum. Not only would this become a Noob's guide to the genre, but it would preclude the old heads in here hearing the same questions over and over. For any of you self-proclaimed Goaphiles (lovers of Goa and the like), please post a list of artists that best represent the genre. If you could, indicate what sub-genre of Psytrance/Goa they best represent. You might try to come up with a Top 10 or Top 25 Most Influential Artists in the genre... that should be enough to get those newer to the genre started. Then come up with a Top 10 or Top 25 Most Essential Tracks (listing the Artist and Title as a minimum). Of course, if you can identify the sub-genre (or sub-sub-genreas it were), it would be even more beneficial. As a start, here's two links that kind of give a lay of the land: Anoebis' Psychedelic Trance Flowchart Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music Cheers, BrickTop EDIT: As of August 21, 2006, here's the suggested list so far, alphabetized. This is great; it's exactly what I was looking for. While some might think the list is too long, too encompassing, or, as one member cited, too average, it gives us a place to start looking. THANKS! (Serious) suggestions on how to clean the list up would be appreciated, and more suggestions on Artists, Albums, and Tracks are still very welcome. Abstrakta Araberr - "Sitt I Soffan" adrenalin drum - x-perimental goa Asia 2001 - ama zone asia 2001 - psykadelia, live - transpact Astral Projection - "Enlighted Evolution"? astral projection - another world astral projection = dancing galaxy Astral Projection: Trust In Trance (TIP) Beyond Third Spring : Oasis Of Memories blue planet corporation - blue planet bodhissatva 13:20 : excursions through the ancient future (truffle) bodhissatva 13:20 : secrets of the mojave (geomagnetic tv) boris blenn electric universe bus = Morebusinesslinkyouthere bypass unit - green dreams California Sunshine - Nasha california sunshine - trance chi-ad Cosmosis - "Doors Of Perception" Cosmosis: Cosmology (Transient), Synergy (Transient) cyan Darshan: Awakening (Flying Rhino) delta = schizoeffective derango : tumult (inpsyde media) deviant electronics - blunt and childsplay dimension 5 - transdimentional,second phaze Dogma - the land of utopia Doof: Let's Turn On (TIP) Electric Universe: One Love (Spirit Zone), Stardiver (Spirit Zone) eraser vs yöjalka : round 1 (exogenic) eraser vs yöjalka : tärinat (exogenic) Etnica - "Trip Tonite" etnica - juggling alchemists Green Nuns Of The Revolution GMS - Wanted GMS, The Hits growling mad scientists - chaos laboratory Hallucinogen - perhaps the track "LSD" Hallucinogen: Twisted (Dragonfly), The Lone Deranger (Twisted) haltya : forest flavour (exogenic) Hux Flux: Cryptic Crunch (Koyote) Infected Mushroom : B.P. Empire. (album) Infected Mushroom: Classical Mushroom (album) Infected Mushroom: The Gathering (album) Infected Mushroom: Bust a Move (song) Infected Mushroom: Cities of the Future (song) Infected Mushroom: Dancing with Kadhafi (song) Infected Mushroom: Deeply Disturbed (song) Juno Reactor: Beyond The Infinite (Blue Room) kindzadza = waves from outer space Koxbox - "Fuel On" Koxbox (their first two albums) Koxbox: Forever After (Harthouse, Matsuri), Dragon Tales (Blue Room) Logic Bomb : Headware loopus in fabula : loopus in fabula(demon tea) mandalavandalz : chapora nightlife (6 dimension soundz) mandalavandalz : hong kong nightlife (karelia) mfg - the prophecy midi miliz = pasages Miraculix : Detonator Miranda : Asinja o.o.o.d - breathing space and alive Orion: Futuristic Poetry (Symbiosis), Metamorpheus (Phantasm) pelinpala : my cd has landed on the next neighbourhood's dog (demon tea) penta = pentafiles Pleiadians - IFO (artitst and album) Pleiadians - IFO (Dragonfly) power source - cosmic waves Prana: Cyclone (Matsuri), Geomantik (Matsuri) Psychaos - "Dense Dawn" Psychopod - "Psychopod" Quirk - Dark Matter RA - To Sirius s.u.n. project = sexperimental scatterbrain - infernal angel Section X - "Galaxian" Shakatura - "All Hallows Morning" shakta - enlightened ape Shakta: Silicon Trip (Dragonfly), The Enlightened Ape (Dragonfly) Shiva Shidapu - Shiva Sidpao: The Album somaton - future memories Somaton: Future Memories (Phantasm) sonic fusion = discovery space tribe = sonic mandala Space Tribe: Sonic Mandala (Spirit Zone) squaremeat : jungle boogie partyline (exogenic) Sundog - "Touch The Sun" suomi / forest sounds Talpa - The Art of Being Non Technossomy - "V.T.O.L." Technossomy: Synthetic Flesh (Flying Rhino) texas faggott : petoman's peflett (exogenic) The Green Nuns of The Revolution - Rock Bitch Mafia (Flying Rhino) The Infinity Project: Feeling Weird (TIP), Mystical Experiences (Blue Room) The Misted Muppet : From The Legend tim schuldt Total Eclipse (artist) Total Eclipse : Violent Relaxation Total Eclipse: Delta Aquarids (Blue Room), Violent Relaxation (Blue Room) transwave - hypnorythm ep Transwave: Helium (Matsuri), Phototropic (Distance) Unconscious Collective - "Flourostani Transcendance" UX: Ultimate Experience (Dragonfly) v.a. : boldly audio (sanaton) v.a. : moonunit (apoxina) v.a. : psychovader (apixina) v.a. : sanatonic audio (sanaton) v.a. : schizm (gi'iwa) v.a. : scrambled heads (spastic elastic) wizzy noise = elektro theatre x-dream = ALL OF THEM!!! X-Dream: Trip To Trancesylvania (Tunnel) X-Dream: We Created Our Own Happines (Tunnel) X-Dream: Radio (Blue Room) EDITED TO ADD THE FOLLOWING on September 02, 2006 Here was the latest "100 Best Goa Tracks" I am aware of, as published on September, 19th 2001 (as reposted by Jeff; only 91 were posted): 1) Hallucinogen : LSD 2) Infected Mushroom : Bust A Move 3) Hallucinogen : Shamanix 4) Astral Projection : People Can Fly 5) Infected Mushroom : Psycho 6) Atmos : Klein Aber Doctor 6) Man With No Name : Teleport 8) Astral Projection : Mahadeva 9) Ticon : We Are The Mammoth Hunters 10) Hallucinogen : Angelic Particles 11) Pleiadians : Alcyone 11) Shpongle : Behind Closed Eyelids 13) Astral Projection : Nilaya 14) Infected Mushroom : Symphonatic 15) Infected Mushroom : Return of The Shadows 16) Pleiadians : Maia 17) Astral Projection : Kabalah 18) Hallucinogen : Space Pussy 19) Astral Projection : Let There Be Light 20) Infected Mushroom : Mush Mushi 21) Hallucinogen : Deranger 21) Infected Mushroom : Roll Us A Giant 23) Dark Soho : Depth of Emotion 24) Chi-AD : Eye am the I 25) Astral Projection: No-One Ever Dreams 26) Infected Mushroom : Dracul 26) Deedrah : Reload 28) Astral Projection : Dancing Galaxy 28) Hallucinogen : Shakey Shaker 30) Hallucinogen : Gamma Goblins Part 2 30) GMS : Arabian Knights On Mescaline 32) Shpongle : And The Day Turned To Night 33) Chi-AD : Exit Eternity 34) S.U.N Project : 380 Volts 34) Astral Projection : Liquid Sun 34) Hallucinogen : Snarling Black Mabel 37) Hallucinogen : Fluoro Neuro Sponge 37) Hallucinogen : Mi Loony Um 37) Juno Reactor : Pistolero 40) Juno Reactor : Feel The Universe 41) Etnica : Tribute 41) Son Kite : Knob Adjustment 41) Logic Bomb : Shadow of The Beast 41) Total Eclipse : Free Lemonade 41) Prana : Black Rain 46) Infected Mushroom : The Gathering 46) Power Source : Goaway 48) Pleiadians : Modulation 48) The Delta : Thing 48) Koxbox : Stay Psychedelic 51) Etnica : Trip Tonite (Rmx) 51) Astral Projection : Aqua Line Spirit 51) Cosmosis : Gift of the Gods 51) Beast : Spawn 55) Transwave : Land Of Freedom 56) Son Kite : Aiwana 56) Toï Doï : Nuage D'encens 56) Son Kite : Clockwise 56) Infected Mushroom : Dancing With Kadafi 56) Hallucinogen : Gamma Goblins 61) Juno Reactor : Rotorblade 61) X-Dream : Panic in Paradise 61) Yahel : For The People 61) Infected Mushroom : Classical Mushroom 65) Tromesa : Owig Weg 66) X-Dream : The Second Room (A-Trip) 67) Shpongle : Vapour Rumours 67) Infected Mushroom : Unbalanced (Baby Killer Rmx) 69) Cosmosis : Cannabanoid 69) Total Eclipse : Can't Do That 71) Doof : Double Dragon 71) Shpongle : Around The World In A Tea Daze 71) California Sunshine : Rain 74) Total Eclipse : The Furnace 74) Transwave : Malaka Dance 74) X-Dream : Freak 77) The Delta : As A Child I Could Walk On The Ceiling 77) Son Kite : Hi-Fi Stomp Session 77) Infected Mushroom : The Missed Symphony 77) MFG : New Kind Of World 77) Infected Mushroom : Release Me 77) Toï Doï : Up Days 77) Hallucinogen : Spiritual Antiseptic 84) Son Kite : Where's My Drum? 84) Haldolium : 1969 84) Shpongle : Dorset Perception 84) Etnica : Mystical Appearance In Goa 84) Koxbox : Fuel On 84) Astral Projection : Life on Mars 84) Intact Instinct : Chicago Coin's Cinema 91) Shakta : Leptonhead (Deedrah Rmx) 91) Etnica : Trip Tonite 91) California Sunshine : Coming home 91) Vibrasphere : Echoplantation 91) Der Dritte Raum : Hale Bob 91) Wizzy Noise : Oversexed Succubus 91) Pleiadians : Full Mental Jackpot 91) Power Source : Granada 91) The Green Nuns of The Revolution : Ring of Fire 91) Sandman : Shockwave 91) Parasence : Boomerang 91) Jaïa : After The Rain 91) Miranda : First Steps To The Stars 91) Space Cat : Snorkel Blaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antic Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 In order to further the propagation of the Psytrance/Goa genre, it would be a great help to come up with a list of Essential Artists and Tracks. Once a good list is created, I'd suggest you pin it to the top of the General forum. Not only would this become a Noob's guide to the genre, but it would preclude the old heads in here hearing the same questions over and over. For any of you self-proclaimed Goaphiles (lovers of Goa and the like), please post a list of artists that best represent the genre. If you could, indicate what sub-genre of Psytrance/Goa they best represent. You might try to come up with a Top 10 or Top 25 Most Influential Artists in the genre... that should be enough to get those newer to the genre started. Then come up with a Top 10 or Top 25 Most Essential Tracks (listing the Artist and Title as a minimum). Of course, if you can identify the sub-genre (or sub-sub-genre as it were), it would be even more beneficial. As a start, here's two links that kind of give a lay of the land: Anoebis' Psychedelic Trance Flowchart Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music Cheers, BrickTop 587963[/snapback] OK, I'll start with artists and up-tempo albums that are obligatory: Hallucinogen: Twisted (Dragonfly), The Lone Deranger (Twisted) The Infinity Project: Feeling Weird (TIP), Mystical Experiences (Blue Room) Shakta: Silicon Trip (Dragonfly), The Enlightened Ape (Dragonfly) Somaton: Future Memories (Phantasm) Cosmosis: Cosmology (Transient), Synergy (Transient) Doof: Let's Turn On (TIP) Astral Projection: Trust In Trance (TIP) Technossomy: Synthetic Flesh (Flying Rhino) UX: Ultimate Experience (Dragonfly) The Green Nuns of The Revolution - Rock Bitch Mafia (Flying Rhino) Pleiadians - IFO (Dragonfly) Transwave: Helium (Matsuri), Phototropic (Distance) Darshan: Awakening (Flying Rhino) Koxbox: Forever After (Harthouse, Matsuri), Dragon Tales (Blue Room) Total Eclipse: Delta Aquarids (Blue Room), Violent Relaxation (Blue Room) X-Dream: Trip To Trancesylvania (Tunnel), We Created Our Own Happines (Tunnel), Radio (Blue Room) Juno Reactor: Beyond The Infinite (Blue Room) Orion: Futuristic Poetry (Symbiosis), Metamorpheus (Phantasm) Prana: Cyclone (Matsuri), Geomantik (Matsuri) Space Tribe: Sonic Mandala (Spirit Zone) Electric Universe: One Love (Spirit Zone), Stardiver (Spirit Zone) Hux Flux: Cryptic Crunch (Koyote) the list is far from being complete, but it's all I could think of at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Quirk - Dark Matter, Is Essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Carnage Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I've been working on choosing out the most esesential goa tracks for about ten years and the list is still not fine tuned. Here it is so far: Koxbox - "Fuel On" Unconscious Collective - "Flourostani Transcendance" Cosmosis - "Doors Of Perception" Abstrakta Araberr - "Sitt I Soffan" Section X - "Galaxian" Technossomy - "V.T.O.L." Shakatura - "All Hallows Morning" Psychaos - "Dense Dawn" Etnica - "Trip Tonite" Sundog - "Touch The Sun" Psychopod - "Psychopod" I Haven't put too much thought into essential whole albums (other than Pleiadians - IFO and the first two from Koxbox) but the following artists have been very essential and influencing, though I can't point out single tracks: Hallucinogen (perhaps "LSD"), Green Nuns Of The Revolution, Astral Projection ("Enlighted Evolution"?) and many more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qa2pir Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I've been working on choosing out the most esesential goa tracks for about ten years and the list is still not fine tuned. Here it is so far: Koxbox - "Fuel On" Unconscious Collective - "Flourostani Transcendance" Cosmosis - "Doors Of Perception" Abstrakta Araberr - "Sitt I Soffan" Section X - "Galaxian" Technossomy - "V.T.O.L." Shakatura - "All Hallows Morning" Psychaos - "Dense Dawn" Etnica - "Trip Tonite" Sundog - "Touch The Sun" Psychopod - "Psychopod" I Haven't put too much thought into essential whole albums (other than Pleiadians - IFO and the first two from Koxbox) but the following artists have been very essential and influencing, though I can't point out single tracks: Hallucinogen (perhaps "LSD"), Green Nuns Of The Revolution, Astral Projection ("Enlighted Evolution"?) and many more... 588526[/snapback] I listened to the Sundog track now... And it sounded much better than last time... Funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Infected Mushroom: The Gathering Infected Mushroom: Classical Mushroom Infected Mushroom : B.P. Empire. (my personal fav) All 3 are essential psytrance albums. Dont bother about the ones released afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qa2pir Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 OD is completely right, BPE is their best album But unlike him, I actually dislike the other 2 a bit... There's something about them which turns me off. However, most people seem to like Classical Mushroom the most, so I guess I shouldn't care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rdos3 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 OD is completely right, BPE is their best album But unlike him, I actually dislike the other 2 a bit... There's something about them which turns me off. However, most people seem to like Classical Mushroom the most, so I guess I shouldn't care 588878[/snapback] I agree. I put them up there because they ARE good albums, even if I dont really like them much myself. B.P Empire is awesome, because there hasnt been an album that even sounds remotely like it. Dancing with Kadafi is also one of my favourite tunes of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 heres my 2 cents worth asia 2001 - psykadelia, live - transpact dimension 5 - transdimentional,second phaze growling mad scientists - chaos laboratory power source - cosmic waves o.o.o.d - breathing space and alive astral projection - another world transwave - hypnorythm ep etnica - juggling alchemists blue planet corporation - blue planet scatterbrain - infernal angel shakta - enlightened ape tim schuldt adrenalin drum - x-perimental goa boris blenn electric universe bypass unit - green dreams mfg - the prophecy chi-ad deviant electronics - blunt and childsplay cyan and all the ones antic said (of course) i could go on all night but you get my drift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qa2pir Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I agree. I put them up there because they ARE good albums, even if I dont really like them much myself. B.P Empire is awesome, because there hasnt been an album that even sounds remotely like it. Dancing with Kadafi is also one of my favourite tunes of all time. 588880[/snapback] My thoughts excactly... Except I think the Kadafi track doesn't fit too well with the rest, it's a bit too superficial and hitty to fit in well with the trippy dance floor songs from the rest of the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 California Sunshine - Nasha It gets so entrancing and ecstatic at times...Their best album IMO... and harel's opinion too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 The Misted Muppet : From The Legend Beyond Third Spring : Oasis Of Memories Total Eclipse : Violent Relaxation Miraculix : Detonator Logic Bomb : Headware Miranda : Asinja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepton Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 suomi / forest sounds texas faggott : petoman's peflett (exogenic) haltya : forest flavour (exogenic) eraser vs yöjalka : round 1 (exogenic) eraser vs yöjalka : tärinat (exogenic) mandalavandalz : hong kong nightlife (karelia) mandalavandalz : chapora nightlife (6 dimension soundz) squaremeat : jungle boogie partyline (exogenic) pelinpala : my cd has landed on the next neighbourhood's dog (demon tea) loopus in fabula : loopus in fabula(demon tea) . . . derango : tumult (inpsyde media) bodhissatva 13:20 : excursions through the ancient future (truffle) bodhissatva 13:20 : secrets of the mojave (geomagnetic tv) v.a. : boldly audio (sanaton) v.a. : sanatonic audio (sanaton) v.a. : schizm (gi'iwa) v.a. : moonunit (apoxina) v.a. : psychovader (apixina) v.a. : scrambled heads (spastic elastic) . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Buddha Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 RA - To Sirius please dont forget this gem dudes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FungalGrowth Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Talpa - The Art of Being Non Derango - Tumult Two of my favourite psy albums of all time! I consider them essential I also agree with Infected's first three albums. Infected Mushroom is what got me into psytrance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 heres my 2 cents worth asia 2001 - psykadelia, live - transpact dimension 5 - transdimentional,second phaze growling mad scientists - chaos laboratory power source - cosmic waves o.o.o.d - breathing space and alive astral projection - another world transwave - hypnorythm ep etnica - juggling alchemists blue planet corporation - blue planet scatterbrain - infernal angel shakta - enlightened ape tim schuldt adrenalin drum - x-perimental goa boris blenn electric universe bypass unit - green dreams mfg - the prophecy chi-ad deviant electronics - blunt and childsplay cyan and all the ones antic said (of course) i could go on all night but you get my drift 588884[/snapback] what he said plus : Asia 2001 - ama zone california sunshine - trance Dogma - the land of utopia somaton - future memories Shiva Shidapu - Shiva Sidpao: The Album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 this topic is so full of average recommendations it couldn't be pinned (pm from mars) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FungalGrowth Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 this topic is so full of average recommendations it couldn't be pinned (pm from mars) 589254[/snapback] I blame everyone else. My recommendations are awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo void Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 space tribe = sonic mandala s.u.n. project = sexperimental astral projection = dancing galaxy midi miliz = pasages kindzadza = waves from outer space penta = pentafiles sonic fusion = discovery delta = schizoeffective wizzy noise = elektro theatre x-dream = ALL OF THEM!!! bus = Morebusinesslinkyouthere koxbox I'd recommend... not sure which one though... not like its available readily anyways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Carnage Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 this topic is so full of average recommendations it couldn't be pinned (pm from mars) 589254[/snapback] Who's to decide what's average and what's beyond? Anyway, there's nothing average about the tracks I listed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Total Eclipse albums are also essential to any goatrance lovers or anyone else that likes good music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajek Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Hallucinogen Astral Projection old Infected call this list as mainstream as possible, cause it is, but I think these offer the best overview of oldschool/midschool psy for 'n00bs' because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 this topic is so full of average recommendations it couldn't be pinned (pm from mars) 589254[/snapback] i thought this topic was about members suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricktop Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 Hallucinogen Astral Projection old Infected call this list as mainstream as possible, cause it is, but I think these offer the best overview of oldschool/midschool psy for 'n00bs' because of that. 592026[/snapback] Mainstream is fine. It's hard for a noob to dive into a genre and tackle all the nuances of the lesser-known artists. Certainly, it would be great to have suggestions of GREAT lesser-known artitsts and tracks, but with all the material out there, it makes it very helpful to have a list of Artists, Albums, and Tracks to seek out to get familiar with a genre. What I find funny is that a "mainstream" psytrance artist like Infected Mushroom is still considered obscure by the masses. The humor and irony is in how relative the concept "mainstream" is. As noobs explore these artists, their apprecaition for the genre and taste will expand, and they can more easily and naturally explore the rest. This is just a great primer to people moving from, say, DnB or Breaks into Goa and Psytrance. So fire away with the mainstream, the "average," and the old-hat... If someone is willing to take the time to recommend it, it'll probably appeal to a lot of others and provide a focus for us. Cheers, BrickTop Oh, BTW, if people could start denoting whether they are recommending an ARTIST, an (Album), or a "Track", it would be helpful. I'll go back and try to reformat the list at the top of the post so that the format is more clear to noobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricktop Posted August 25, 2006 Author Share Posted August 25, 2006 Shortened quote for brevity: OK, I'll start with artists and up-tempo albums that are obligatory: Hallucinogen: The Lone Deranger Cosmosis: Cosmology Doof: Let's Turn On Juno Reactor: Beyond The Infinite 588018[/snapback] I picked up the first three from your recommendation, and they are awesome! Thanks. I should have the Juno Reactor this weekend. I'd seen/heard Cosmosis and Doof on several streams and in the clubs I go to so I figured I'd like them. I had not yet come to recognize Hallucinogen, however, but the name Lone Deranger seems to pop up in several forums regarding several other groups (I'm guessing members of Hallucinogen are members of other prominent groups, too?) It's probably my favorite of the three. The Juno Reactor album was recommended to me by someone else, too, which is why I sought it out over the others that have been recommended. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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