Guest Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 is it just me or has the sound been stagnating for a while now? insane creation, guadium, funky dragon, elastic ... it's all a big yawn to me. that nordic, scando sound's hit a big wall, and I think it's time we all move on to greener pastures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kris Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 is it just me or has the sound been stagnating for a while now? insane creation, guadium, funky dragon, elastic ... it's all a big yawn to me. that nordic, scando sound's hit a big wall, and I think it's time we all move on to greener pastures. 372787[/snapback] I do agree. I am too getting boring of the same old same. But Phony's new release is nice though... Much more "dirty" and less "clean " and sterile as most progressive trance releases are at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 and thus the world made Zenon and Tribal Vision records... and i just heard iboga is releasing a Sun Control Species album... i thought it was going out on ZMA... oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kris Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 and thus the world made Zenon and Tribal Vision records... 372806[/snapback] Tribal Vison is very nice but I already see a tendany to go the same way on each of their releases. I think that's the biggest mistake labels do.. They find a sound that work and stay there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Tribal Vison is very nice but I already see a tendany to go the same way on each of their releases. I think that's the biggest mistake labels do.. They find a sound that work and stay there. 372809[/snapback] but you can agree limelight does not sound the same as inner circle... does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kris Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 (edited) but you can agree limelight does not sound the same as inner circle... does it? 372812[/snapback] yes sure but limelight and Urban legends sound quite the same. And as far as I know it's not changing. I hope it does though Oh and Inner Circle sound like everything else being put out by the other progg. trance labels.... no news there sadly Edited November 3, 2005 by Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 yes sure but limelight and Urban legends sound quite the same. And as far as I know it's not changing. I hope it does though Oh and Inner Circle sound like everything else being put out by the other progg. trance labels.... no news there sadly 372815[/snapback] i wouln't place inner circle with everything else out there, they had a few spikes around the edges that i found most pleasing... personally, one of the better ones out there right now... as for changing or staying the same... i dunno, ill just knock on wood on hope for the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 hey kriss i found the sample you used in your song the other day and heard the whole thing... nice! reminds me a lot of Eye For An Eye, An - Sirus (Halo Varga mix) (V/a - Widescreen:16:9:V1 ) from Platipus... ahh man those were the days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kris Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 hey kriss i found the sample you used in your song the other day and heard the whole thing... nice! reminds me a lot of Eye For An Eye, An - Sirus (Halo Varga mix) (V/a - Widescreen:16:9:V1 ) from Platipus... ahh man those were the days... 372860[/snapback] Any track title of my track so I know what track your talking about? Yes Platipus was a very very nice label with great timeless releases. Well they still excist but of course it's not the same anymore even though they once in a while still release some interesting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Any track title of my track so I know what track your talking about? Yes Platipus was a very very nice label with great timeless releases. Well they still excist but of course it's not the same anymore even though they once in a while still release some interesting stuff. 372872[/snapback] Cityrain... the sample is from an old movie... didn't see the name... i found it in a really old program about movies... "cinemania 96"... there are loadssss of great samples there... you know greta garbo style... in psy or even progressive these days... who knows how that might work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moni Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Cityrain... the sample is from an old movie... didn't see the name... i found it in a really old program about movies... "cinemania 96"... there are loadssss of great samples there... you know greta garbo style... in psy or even progressive these days... who knows how that might work 372920[/snapback] hehe, cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kris Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Cityrain... the sample is from an old movie... didn't see the name... i found it in a really old program about movies... "cinemania 96"... there are loadssss of great samples there... you know greta garbo style... in psy or even progressive these days... who knows how that might work 372920[/snapback] To be honest i did not even know where that sample came from I found it on a friends harddisk and thought it was cool There's for sure some nice old samples from old movies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahf Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 My opinion... is that as soon as a "progressive" sound becomes solidified and codified, then it ceases to be progressive. Simultaneously, new artists will come along to create something fresh, and that style then becomes what is progressive at the moment; the cycle thus repeats. For instance: FreQ's album was really cool and popular last year, then his style got reduced to a formula and copied quite a bit. Then something new has to come along - for me, it's the new Ticon, wow, what amazing shit. Perhaps they'll push the stream of releases in a new direction, who knows. Anyways, my point is that music never really stagnates, if it feels to you like it has, then you need to break out of your box and look for new interesting stuff, it's always out there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlockalien Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 is it just me or has the sound been stagnating for a while now? insane creation, guadium, funky dragon, elastic ... it's all a big yawn to me. that nordic, scando sound's hit a big wall, and I think it's time we all move on to greener pastures. 372787[/snapback] to tell you the truth I didnt even listen to these artists you mention.. except for gaudium which I found boring... just another of these prog-psy boring fashion.... the only really really REAAAALLY good prog (trance) release that came out lately was Antix - TCD.... that was a perfect cd for me... amazing stuff, very well thought out the phony orphants cd, well, its ok, has some nice parts (sex and drugs, I want to feel, mi corazon and party), but it doesnt make my mind go wild like antix the things that have been released and are very interesting are the ´crossover´ stuff... like d-nox and beckers.. all of their tracks are very good.. and then there are others like luke chable, andre absolut, etc... but yeah, once again I say: im sick of these prog-psy that have been released lately... fking boring no-imagination stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 but yeah, once again I say: im sick of these prog-psy that have been released lately... fking boring no-imagination stuff 372956[/snapback] give us specifics... let's get dirty laundry out! ps: Iboga should really be paying you to run advertisements for antix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlockalien Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 give us specifics... let's get dirty laundry out! ps: Iboga should really be paying you to run advertisements for antix 372971[/snapback] names? easy.. genetic spin, tegma, echotek (of today.. they used to be good), liquid soul, gaudium, xibalba, symphonix, audiomatic, etc etc etc its sooooo boring hahah yeah if they sent me some promos I would be happy .. but really, I think they deserve this promotion from me because they just rock.. on cd and live and dj set... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 names? easy.. genetic spin, tegma, echotek (of today.. they used to be good), liquid soul, gaudium, xibalba, symphonix, etc etc etc its sooooo boring hahah yeah if they sent me some promos I would be happy .. but really, I think they deserve this promotion from me because they just rock.. on cd and live and dj set... 372978[/snapback] agreed, aprooved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kris Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 In my opinion Phony rock a mile over Antix.. Antix became too sterile for me.. the same ol same Phony made a diverse "dirty" and very fresh "non-repeat ourself" CD which I think is amazing on the floors... Underworld influences, techno, progressive, house and psy... wicked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlockalien Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 In my opinion Phony rock a mile over Antix.. Antix became too sterile for me.. the same ol same Phony made a diverse "dirty" and very fresh "non-repeat ourself" CD which I think is amazing on the floors... Underworld influences, techno, progressive, house and psy... wicked 372986[/snapback] and imo, antix rocks a light-year over phony... beat ya no but really.. as I said, I think phony orphants have some very nice moments.. but it lacks a certain something that I cant define.. oh well.. opinions opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmtree Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 dark and techy prog psy roxxor. morning housy prog psy suxxor as you can see, i am feeling especially minimal today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kris Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 and imo, antix rocks a light-year over phony... beat ya no but really.. as I said, I think phony orphants have some very nice moments.. but it lacks a certain something that I cant define.. oh well.. opinions opinions 372995[/snapback] Sure it's different opinions.. I am just tired of the aussie/Kiwi progressive sound that Antix and Freq represent... It's too sterile and predictable.... whereas Phoney turned 360 degrees round and did something very unpredictable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlockalien Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Sure it's different opinions.. I am just tired of the aussie/Kiwi progressive sound that Antix and Freq represent... It's too sterile and predictable.... whereas Phoney turned 360 degrees round and did something very unpredictable.. 373006[/snapback] freq and antix? wow, these are on totally different categories imo... Freq was nice in the beginning, party stuff, but then became too much of the same.. good productions though, cannot deny that... But as I said, very different than antix.. its fast ´stomach twirling´ progressive... antix is much more leaning in the housier area, much slower,and definitely not predictable and quite different one track from the other... at least thats what I get when listening to it.. Tracks like ´forever changing´, which begins with nothing and build up to one of the best breaks I ever heard in my life, perfect for party, awesome atmospheres, and then we got this hollow clubby vocal track in ´le lascard´ with very subtle sounds and not so much ´in your face´ like others, and the beautiful vocals and feeling of ´hiding place´, etc.. there´s no mistake there, no weak track.. as for phony, yeah they did something very nice.. and im a fan of electro dirty underground kinda stuff for sure.. Emok is actually one of my favourite djs.. I guess jeppe is the one I dont like so much.... for example the ´going down´ track, its nothing special, some dark aspiration but kinda annoying somehow.. and ´house for my spouse´ is an average track for the house world imo... and rise, who´s melodies dont touch me at all.. but yeah I do enjoy the other tracks very much as I said.. awesome vocals and mixture of dirty and clean housy sounds in ´I want to feel´, dirty and powerful party stormer in ´sex drugs´, dirty electro tech feeling in ´party´ and ´got what it takes´, and slower tripper in ´mi corazon´... its just not a perfect cd as I found antix cd to be... The fact that the cd has variety is a plus for sure... but then again, we will return to the fact that you see them as predictable and phony as different and I will see antix as not predictable in its thousands of inner details and constructions, visuals and soundscapes, and phony as very nice too but lacking a bit of smt... I know you are not wrong or anything, and im sure you dont think im wrong... so yeah, taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I find Freq as boring and predictable as those artists mentioned in my original post. I'm not at all impressed with the stuff Iboga has been coming out with lately. Antix though, I give some credit because the latest album is much more worth a listen than the majority out there in proggy land. I've lately been listening quite a bit to the more straight up progressive acts. Krueger and Coyle, SBK, compilations from sebatian's label, alot of housy progressive stuff. Peter gun's Pressure Point is pretty solid. Detailed, percussive and groovy. Much more interesting stuff I think. on another note... Sun Control Species is coming out with an album? that's fantastic news! one of the top acts in the psy scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furthur Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 SCS, oh yeah really looking forward to that hope drooid will keep those bpms down i find this antix vs po debate ridiculous, cannot compare the styles at all other than say i like this more. Both albums are amazing imo, Antix has grown on me much more for the simple reason that i have had much longer need to give phony more time what i respect about both of these acts is that as much as their debuts rocked, they did not stagnate in that sound actually, andy from this forum has been putting out some original music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I agree to an extent... some of it is getting quite boring... like there's some holy quest to make THE cleanest most sterile stuff around. On one level (the chin-stroking one I suppose) I appreciate it... but then I take a step back and say - is there any life in this music? Would people unacquainted with psytrance find it utterly uninteresting? Yeah, some of the time... I don't understand what the time and place is for some of these sounds - when it's time to clear the dancefloor and go home? But that's a regional bias... I'm sure people groove on to this stuff somewhere. Anyway I'm still a big prog lover and there is great stuff out there... I'm commenting on a non-specified list of yawn-inducing material that is always lurking around. How the hell can you review this stuff anyway? I'm sick of writing "well it's nicely produced, and highly polished, and there is quite a flow, but I still feel asleep"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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