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Hi, yeah it's normal, I had to stop it. I don't have enough time to work on it anymore for now.
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Hi, I'll try to update it some day but I'm very busy with my studies right now
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F*CK NO !!! Alexi Laiho passed away...
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Group : ISON
Album : Inner - Space
Style : Shoegaze/Post-Doom Metal/Ambient Metal/Drone Music/!\ An etheral gem /!\
Group : Conan
Album : Blood Eagle
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@thefreewave Ormion just gave examples of Twilight classics. My PDF is not about giving classics but about giving examples of albums for each sub-styles after having explained each of them. I could perfectly have included his examples in the Twilight pages
P.S.: about the list on discogs, although Wild by Absolum is undoubtedly a "proto-Twilight" album, it rather fits in Psytrance category (the one I described in the PDF)
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7 hours ago, thefreewave said:
I'm a bit mystified here. I know Ormion has been very outspoken on what great Twilight is in all his posts on this forum but yet his recommendations aren't matched by what is on the pdf but they seem a little closer to the psytranceguide stub.....As a newcomer its hard to know what to go by when people are given very different answers by 3 experts......
I've copied over the pdf recommendations into a chronological list (s.african on second half, do most people separate them or lump them together?) https://www.discogs.com/lists/Twilight-Psytrance/603302 and all the source links i found so far....
I think Ormion just gave classic Twilight Psytrance productions, all kind of Twilight confonded, not only those who fits in the South African one. I don't see anything contradictory with what is put in the pdf
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@Psyjafo Hi, welcome on Psynews and thanks for your support
First of all, about the rolling bassline it has been popularized by Full-On but most recent Psytrance productions has a rolling bassline too so it's not peculiar to Full-On. For the classification of the artists you listed I'd say :
- Ajja is usually just Psytrance on his LPs at the exception of "Spira Mirabilis" which is somewhere between Psychedelic Downtempo and Deep Trance.
- Tristan as you said it, it's UK Psytrance and I think I will end to add it in the PDF. For this one I'd suggest you to ask to @Ormion, he's a better connoisseur than me on this sub-style.
- Whiptongue, from what I can hear by now on his EP ("Oscillate") I'd say UK Psytrance too.
- Jumpstreet I'd say Hi-Tech, but a slower kind of Hi-Tech compared to what we can hear most of the time in Hi-Tech.
- Fungus Funk from his last EP, "Fractal Funk", seems to has kept a part of his "proto-Hi-Techish" Darkpsy sound on leads and FX but, not surprisignly (this EP was released on Sangoma and Timecode records after all ), has a Twilight bassline on the 2 first tracks.
- Burn in Noise, from his last album ("We Stand"), it depends on the tracks, but there's blends between these sub-styles : sometimes it's UK Psyrance, sometimes a kind of slower Hi-Tech, sometimes Full-On, and some other Progressive Psytrance and even Psychedelic Downtempo/Deep Trance.
- Avalon, from his last album ("Rise"), it's UK Psytrance most of the time but sometimes there's blends with Full-On.
- Regan just made compilations so it woud be too long to classify each tracks from different artists.
- Mad Tribe on "Superstar" : a kind of "Full-Onish" UK Psytrance.
- Outsiders on "Be As You Are" : most of the time Full-On. UK Psytrance, Progressive Psytrance or Psychedelic Downtempo on some tracks with featurings.
- Sonic Species on "Tokyo Sunrise (Transient Disorder Remix)" : "Full-Onish" UK Psytrance too.
- Dickster (when he's alone) on "Inebriatti" : UK Psytrance.
- Braincell used to be Full-On back in the days (Transformation Of Reality ), now he's UK Psytrance with some hints of Full-On on his last album, "Gaia".
- Earthspace on "Machines Reflecting Love EP" : UK Psytrance.
- Earthling on "Radio Gaia" : sometimes Full-On, sometimes UK Psytrance.
- Electric Universe on "Lakshmi" like on his last LP "Journeys Into Outer Space" : Full-On.
- Astrix on "He.Art" : "Full-Onish" Progressive Psytrance.I might be wrong but I think there's nothing Forest in the artists you listed
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I made a thread with a document gathering all the styles of Psychedelic Trance (thx to the help of this community here too) and explaining it here : https://www.psynews.org/forums/topic/70402-the-psychedelic-trance-in-its-entirety/
And thx Padmapani for your further explainations
Btw, about the creator of psytranceguide.com :
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Group : Ulcerate
Album : Stare Into Death And Be Still
Style : Experimental Death Metal/Technical Death Metal- 1
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Sorry for the wall of albums
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Well...2019 has been absolutely...out of this world
Group : Xoth
Album : Interdimensional Invocations
Style : Technical Thrash Metal/Technical Death Metal/Technical Black Metal/!\ VEKTOR AND OTHER THRASH METAL MADNESS LOVERS THIS IS FOR YOU /!\
Group : おとぼけビ〜バ〜 Otoboke Beaver
Album : いてこまヒッツ Itekoma Hits
Style : Hardcore Punk/Noise Rock/!\ THIS IS A MUST CHECK FOR EVERYONE HERE /!\
Group : Devil Master
Album : Satan Spits on Children of Light
Style : Blackened Crust Punk/Death RockGroup : (DOLCH)
Album : Feuer
Style : Blackened Doom Metal/Dark Ambient/Drone MusicGroup : ESOCTRILIHUM
Album : The Telluric Ashes of the Ö Vrth Immemorial Gods
Style : Experimental Death Metal/Blackened Death MetalGroup : Dawn of Nil
Album : Culminating Ruins
Style : Progressive Blackened Death Metal/BlackgazeGroup : Deathspell Omega
Album : The Furnaces of Palingenesia
Style : Experimental Black MetalGroup : Lower Slaughter
Album : Some Things Take Work
Style : Garage Punk/Stoner Metal/Sludge MetalGroup : Plateau Sigma
Album : Symbols - The Sleeping Harmony of the World Below
Style : Funeral Death-Doom MetalGroup : Crypt Sermon
Album : The Ruins of Fading Light
Style : Epic Doom MetalGroup : Blut Aus Nord
Album : Hallucinogen
Style : Experimental Black Metal/Industrial Black Metal/Atmospheric Black Metal/Dark ambientGroup : Midnight Odyssey
Album : Biolume Part 1 - In Tartarean Chains
Style : Ambient Black Metal/!\ GO CHECK THIS ONE TOO ABSOLUTELY /!\
Group : Obsequiae
Album : The Palms Of Sorrowed Kings
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Group : Necrowretch
Album : The Ones From Hell
Style : Blackened Death Metal- 1
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On 12/31/2019 at 7:54 AM, thefreewave said:
I was looking through this forum and came across this thread and your pdf and i must say it makes things MUCH easier to classify the different psytrance genres than EVER before. Personally it would be nice to have the other sections (origins, more examples) with their retrospective subgenre sections but I can understand that it allows people to go through the basics first before it gets that much more complex.
I've been working on my own project for breaking down and explaining genres in chronological cd length playlists for just over 10 years and its clear this next year I should spend the time on trance and psytrance and going more in depth with them as you have illustrated and exploring the subgenres a whole lot more. Most of those lists are old and I've added onto them rather than break them apart into different lists like Hardcore and Drum & Bass. Anyway your lists are so comprehensive I may need to go through my existing ones and see what i may have missed out on. Most of mine were based on multiple sources and posts on this forum a couple times, like with Full-On. Anyway it will be good to compare and contrast and then look into subgenres i haven't checked out yet.
I'm looking into Nitzonot this week. I'm seeing many things i agree with but other albums seems a bit weaker choices. If you're up for feedback on improvements I'd love to help. Agneton and Psygreg seems like the great experts of that. [edit: update]
I was actually looking into Psycore when i found your thread. That still seems a little under-documented as a whole but it seems like the black sheep of the psy/hardcore families. Anyway I just wanted to first say thank you and also show what I've compiled on my side of the internet. Hopefully I'll be catching up on Psychedlic Trance all through 2020. Anyway glad to meet you and thanks again!
Hey, thank you for these words and nice to meet you too.
For sure, I'm always up for discussions and improvingOn 12/31/2019 at 7:54 AM, thefreewave said:I'm seeing many things i agree with but other albums seems a bit weaker choices.
That's to say? Explain me
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On 12/6/2019 at 12:31 AM, dhollmusik said:
Fantastic work, Lightforce! Yes, this psy-trance thing is endlessly fascinating. So many branches, so many worlds.
I would say the Psykovsky - Ksolntsu album comes under experimental or hi-tech. It's not very darkpsy.
Interesting how Juno Reactor come in under 3 or 4 different styles. I wish more artists would experiment with their sound for different albums.
Thanks for these words. Your comment about Ksointsu made me listening to it again and I changed my mind, I think you're right and I moved this album in experimental
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Old School Death Metal of 10 tons. Best "pure" Death Metal release this year.
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Group : The Offering
Album : Home
Style : Progressive Extreme Metal/Alternative Metal/!\ To my mind we have the best release of 2019 just here. There's no weak track on this album. These guys are madmen and this is ridiculously good. /!\
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F*ck yeah ! Insomnium, In Mourning and Alcest almost the same day ! Melodeath and Blackgaze are back !
Funny how In Mourning now sounds like a blend of the old Opeth and Insomnium
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Group : Hacrid
Album : Back To Where You've Never Been
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@OrmionJust wanted to say that I took the time to listen this album and it's a new masterpiece of its kind for me. I loved your previous album and this one makes no exception. Goa and Twilight fits perfectly well. I saw some people say that it was a bit too repetitive for your previous album but I don't agree with that, I think it's perfect like that. I'm often listening to them since the first one and this one came out and I can't get enough. Your work remind me a lot Morphic Resonance style while being different enough. Great job mate !
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3 hours ago, Themaniac said:
They take Indian pop songs and give it a metal twist
They're doing great job !
The Psychedelic Trance, in its entirety
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Well, since it's not even finished and up to date it's not worthy yet and just a waste of money to keep the server.
Just stick to the pdf for now