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  1. very touching music here, wouldve never thought that a progressive form of ambient would come out, and i love the fact that it's not depressive as downtempo can be.

     

    really amazing and unique music. 2,3 and 9 top my favs

  2. seriously, this was pure sh!t, i had hope just because of seeing the fav. tracks from them being remixed, and i wouldnt call "remix" a track where one just congests the original with stupid changes at the last minutes of the track

     

    but then im not surprised, Endless Rhythms of the Beatless Heart was sh!t as well, except Retrospective where they managed to keep some originality.

     

    will all my respect, this is a rip off if your aiming loyalty towards the label or the artists.

  3. - Second influence: Men have more obsessions. 89% of all big collections in the world are collected by male beings... To make electronic music you need some obsessive behaviour... Sitting hours, days and days behind a pc... Dreaming about that stupid music program at night etc... (theory 2)

     

    89%? lol

     

    anyways, i cant help it but add something to this subject which might create unnecessary reactions, drugs! but thats from the listener perspective, and they lack absolute creativity on explaining music in words, "dudes" do it better :P

    however, they have found another way to help the scene: www.fuckforforest.com

     

    on topic, Lava 303 heard some nice tunes from her, though it is general psychedelia and less trance

  4. You're getting confused here, try actually reading what other people write. Nick doesn't sing on Younger Brother tracks. Ruu does. I don't know Ruu, never met him, although I'm sure the people who know him think he too is a nice bloke and Posford obviously thinks he's a good singer. YB's new direction is a bit bland for me - other bands do this kind of thing much better and more interestingly IMO - although the vocals work well enough given their context (and as long as you make an effort not to associate their new material with what they used to sound like).

     

    It's also worth remembering that the vocals on Ott's album are heavily edited and processed, and - as has been said above - are treated much more like an instrumental layer than a story-telling, intelligible vocal line. If you don't like the way Nick's voice sounds on Ott's music, what you're actually complaining about is Ott's production and writing style. Good luck with that.

     

    you spoke from my mind

     

    Ott does a lot with its vocals, most of the time they act as a main melody, i mean u hardly recognize what those vocals are saying time to time, on the other side, they are oriental based, and if one cant stand that then just LEAVE IT

     

    ground luminosity remix from ott includes shit loads of vocals, i do agree Mir is overloaded to a point with them, but thats something i can live with if its Ott

     

    but Vaccine? why are we disgussing this album/artist, they dont belong to this scene anymore, they are waste of space in your database

  5. i'd like to ask for the vice versa...

     

    i was looking at Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, precisely episode 9, and there is this phrase that i am so sure i've heard it on a track somewhere...

     

    Any new speculation as to who was behind this affair and the one 6 years ago is a waste of time.

    I've got a feeling that the key to unlocking the mystery can be found when we ask ourselves what factor gave rise to the event in the past and the string of phenomena which occurred immediately after this recent death threat.

    ps, the major is siiiiiiiick

  6. I am allowed to generalize here as 99.9% of all studios around 1990 - 1996 used Atari running the first and early versions of Cubase 1.0. :)

     

    Dumb question but who the heck is Zirrex? Never heard about this artist :unsure:

     

    the generalizing was just a joke to irony, my apologies.

     

    Zirrex, well there's not much i can do for you then. to me he's by far the most skilled producer, maybe a bit experimental but no second WEIRD or UNUSUAL, i do not expect everyone to know him but the man has really advanced music making skills. Here's a nice piece, but i can already tell you wont like it.

  7. In 1995 the computer was just doing MIDI sequencing. Audio applications existed, but nothing like today. Even then, MIDI sequencing didn't take much in terms of processing power.

     

     

    We did not make music with a PC or Windows 95. We used an Atari Computer running Cubase 1.0.

     

    stop generalizing with WE here :P.

     

    i had a chat with Zirrex, Lost in Time was made with Windows 95 with a very early Sonar DAW, though i have no idea if that time had virtual additions (1997-1999)

     

    ps, this topic really puts a nice debate, finally 3 pages of people not shouting at each other. and while having a go at artifact 303, as some here mentioned it, i suggest we close this topic since nothing abnormal about it could be found :P.

     

    pss, can we please not mention Infected Crackheads in such topics, they never had a goa sound anyway...

  8. Tatsu is quite right, somebody mentioned patience here anyway

     

    funny how Age comes in in different forms, but we would confirm ignorance if we say "too young", need a reference point? ANTARES.

     

    Yet again, there are some artists, which are on OLDER AGE now, and some of them changed A LOT, some of them think that every artist will have to undergo those changes, and that makes me sick.

     

    ps, as a technology occupied person, i want to share something with the 90s artists though

     

    how in hell could they make music with Windows 95? that remains a mystery to me

  9. I guess it is the Achille's heel of neogoa: poor writing. That's why all the track seem to be one.

     

    now we're talking my friend :)

     

    Originality, Innovativity. The uniqueness is hard nowadays, i personally am awful on putting my ideas in a DAW, and thats why i dont make music at all. i dont know how to judge the artists that just go for it, i have noticed some artists do not even publicise or even share music until they agree with theirselves that finally their music is having the shape of their expectations. I sitll consider the modern age of goa a fresh scene, even the parties are rare, not to mention festivals.

  10. On the flip side there are a lot of great artists than can now have a voice where perhaps they wouldn't have before. :) You have to take the bad with the good.

     

    absolutely

     

    First off, I seriously believe some - maybe even many - people have hard time criticizing anything goatrance post 2000. Why? because there is so little of it! Simple as that. Saying releases are bad and even with constructive criticizing will lead to one of two things; either the artists acknowledges the problems and tries to get better, or they quit. Quitting is easier let me tell you that. Yes there is a grey line of not caring, or acknowledging little but I'd say the type of this scene is generally more prone to lead to one of the extremes. Lack of money is a big factor.

     

    This is how I feel about why you wonder why it seems everyone thinks every release is good, even if it may not be. I'm not stating facts, I do not know for sure, but personal experience speaks for itself.

     

    well, forwarding the word wasnt it? lets take the age as the difference maker again.

     

    15 years ago you had to know people to get updated about music, now u can check psynews from your phone man...

    yes it had a lot to do with the amount of releases, but news/information wasnt spreaded like it is today even if the amount didnt change, not to forget how fast feedback you get today (myspace, soundcloud, facebook, <promoting>Google Music</promoting> )

     

    15 years ago, that person that updated you about music was maybe respected, today you have to judge the reviewer, so of course it has a lot to do with personal experience cause i dont agree with most of the stuff reviewed anyway.

  11. kudos Richpa, i love the modern tag :)

     

    there is only one difference between 90s and current goa trance, TECHNOLOGY.

    15 years ago you needed shit loads of gear to make music, and it took a lot of love and free time to do that, hence the music at some point "in general" was better, which i personally disagree and stick to the theory that every artist made his own sort of goa trance, just because the green nuns used a lot of 303 doesnt make them Goa to me, however both the general and my point are true and coexist.

     

    ps, a lot of gear = a lot of money

     

    today, you can have a entry level sound card and two entry level active monitors and GOOGLE to find the rest of the stuff. what explains the cheese in a lot of releases is EASE OF CREATION, or at least the process to it. the rest is history

  12. That's a blunt generalizing. Same could be generalized and said about the hippies (Goa scene) and their fascination for LSD and MDMA (also a drugs). The world is not Black/white ;)

     

    You seem to take this part of judgement very personal, and what you just said is absolutely correct, whatever they were in Goa, at whatever time, drugs played a major role there, whether it was a psychoactive or a stimulant, i understand your view as a drug, but so is my ibuprofen that kept me alive for the last 10 years.

    i dont know what you have against generelizing when "things" that "certaint people" do results to a generalization. I was forced once to a Gabba party, every person was on fucking speed there, guess how i generalised them? you/we are human, it is normal to come to such conclusions when one see's the effects of certain chemicals (or experiences)

     

    anyway, no need to deviate the topic just for expressing opinion there

     

    back to topic, einstein said darkness doesnt exist, it is only the absence of light, and something tells me that none of the dark producers have ever produced a track during sun light :P

     

    what einstein meant is, loads of artists can sound dark without having anything to do with it, like Cujorius One :).

  13. More generally Darkpsy is an excuse for lame music creation and drug abuse (usually both).

     

    the miracles of warez, internet and cheap amp. music making doesnt take more then a couple of downloads and 2-3 picks from the next door dealer, and its funny cause most of the listeners have a similar background. you have no idea how much i have been shouting about this virus around.

     

    ps, i had appetite for this sort of music too, there are even tunes that i enjoyed which were dark for me and a lot of people here might not agree on that.

     

     

    no matter how much addrenaline rushed i was at that time, i never enjoyed stuff harded then this level, notice HARDER, darker was even more senseless to me

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