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I'm with you Wannes!
But ask your self the question if you would have said the same a coupple of years ago?
I think (IN GENERAL) younger ppl like to have more extremes in their music (louder, harder, faster, drier, darker or 7 melodies & 5 climaxes in 1 track) & if you get older you start to appreciate the subtleness a lot more... At least this was the case for me
Indeed the last 3 years my taste evolved towards the more subtle progressive sounds of psytrance. I need 'less' sounds to get in trance. Although I still get carried away by good full psytrance. Cosmosis - Trancendance for example, or the last Wizzy Noise album.
Talking about good fullon, check the new MWWN tracks on FutureSoundmasters comp from tip new world. That's some good music I reckon.
I also think it's not the age that influences personal taste, but the the amount of years people are listeng to psytrance. The first two years you get sucked in the scene by classic psytracks from fe IM or AP. It think very few people get in the scene through progressive music. So a 30year old who just started listening psy will be dancing on IM and Astrix the first year. IMO.
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But to my knowledge mantra like sounds are much more repetetive and drone like than a melody that contain melodic patterns and variation such as in most "trance" at the moment?
I even say that most old-school Goa tracks with the well known layers of melodies or the ethnic goa tracks with indian singing etc. also do not do the trick. Whereas most deep tribal trance such as a lot of the old australian trance on psy harmonics are the kind of trance that I in my opinion think do and did the trick.
It's true mantras are more repetitive than melodies in trance, because those melodies change during the track. But I dare to say that for example the melody in Shakta-Leptonhead is repeating itself in the same entrancing way mantras do.
But I indeedly think the drum is the most important tool to get in trance and not melodies.
You can do without the melodies, but not without the beat. The "sophisticated" human mind in 21st century however, needs a combination of both beat and melody to grasp the full aspect of trance. IMO that is.
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If I understand this correctly the amount of beats per minute isn't important, but what IS important is the encreasing of bpm in a period of time. Or is this about the frequencies?
So to get the most out of state of trance in parties would be starting with music from 120 bpm build up over the night to music with 150 bpm? The ending of parties with progressive music neverthless, does the trick for me, and the bpm are lower than in the night...
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Interesting replies I'd say.
From my point of view the melodies enhance phantasies and visualisations. They just add more of a sensational aspect to 'being in trance'. This quote from isratrance describes what I mean "The treble sounds act as a food for the imagination and we could even see geometric patterns,fractals, tripping into other dimensions in space and time... "
At first I would say melodies are not needed to get in trance, and partly that's true. But their are different tribes in let's say the Brazil rainforests who only use their voice to get in trance. The chanting of mantra-like sounds do get people in trance and no drum is used. I don't know if this can be replaced by the melodies used in electronic music.
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I was just thinking,
do lower beats per minute, get you better (faster, easier) in trance than a higher BPM?
It seems logic to me that it's easier for your heart to tune in on lower beats, let's say 120 to 135 bpm( maybe even 100 to 120 bpm), than a higher amount per minute.
And is that why house and progressive psytrance should be considered more entrancing than let's say hardcore/terror and fullon/ dark psytrance (which most of the time have bpm between 140-150)?
These are just speculations.
And I'm also pleading for the removal of too much breaks in trance music, because it sure as hell gets you of the trance state and it can be very annoying. Few breaks though can give you a higher feeling and that's nice.
So, is it?
<At how many beats per minute do african/indian tribal people hit their drum?>
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Nothing beats the Soulclipse line up .
I mean it's the most diverse and biggest line-up I have ever seen. Not that it mathers that much, but ..you know
Live acts:
Absolum - 3D-Vison
Ajja - Peak
Alternative control - Spun
Andromeda - Milenium
Antidote - GBU Recs
Astrix - Hommega
Atmos - SpiralTrax
AtomicPulse - B.N.E.
Azak Syndrom - 3D-Vison
Bon - Digital Psionics
C.P.U. - 3D-Vison
CCL - Doof
ChemicalDrive - Utopia
Chromosome - Milenium
Deedra - Spun
DeeperInZen - Solar
DigitalTalk - Acidance
Dissosiactive - Acidance
DMMT - Free Fall
Domestic - Hommega
Double Impact -
Dtek - Maia
Ecoteck - Timestech
Eraser Vs Yojalka - Exogenic/Sonic-dragon
Eskimo - Phantasm
Etnica - Etnicanet
EVP - Wild things
Fatali - B.N.E.
Fungus Funk - Acidance
GMS - Spun
GOW - Partvati
Hallucinogen - Twisted
Haltya - Exogenic
Hilight Tribe - Kosmik Hoboes Rec
Hux Flux -
Hydroponic - Nano
Hyperfrequncies - Mechanik Records / Acidance
Ibojima -
Infected Mushroom - Hommega
InnerAction - Procion
Jellyheads - Trishula
Kindzaza - Parvaty
Kiwa - Exogenic
Lani - Kairoo
Lish - Compact
Loopus in Fabula - Loopus in fabula
Luna spice - Bus
Mekkanikka -
Menog - Spectralrecords/PlanetBen/Timecode
Midimilz - Boshkebeats
Naked Tourist - Parvati
Neuromotor - Acidance
Ocelot - Drop Out
Oforia - B.N.E.
Para Ha Lu - Parvati
Penta - Spectralconcept
Phatamatix - Acidance/Redcells
PhonyO. - Iboga
Pixel - Hommega
Popstream -
Protoculture - Nano
Peaking Goddess Collective - Peak
Reality Grid - Wild things
Rink-a-Dink - Alchemy
Shanti - Spun
SonKite - Digital Structures
Squaremeat - Exogenic
S-range - SpiralTrax
Star Sound Orchestra -
Sub-6 - Hommega
Terraformers -
Texas Faggot - Exogenic
Ticon - Digital Structures
Timelock - B.N.E.
Total Eclipse -
Tribal Tul - Tribal Records
Wizzy Noise - Harmonia
X-Dream - Boshkebeats
Yab Yum - Peak
Yutopia - Flow
Djs:
Alex Boshke - G+ / Boshke Beats
Ans - Nano
Antaro - Spirit Zone
Anti - Spiral Trax / ACDC
Apex - Peak
Arturo - Maia
Baba D -
Beauty & Beat - Synergy Tribe
Beckers - Sprout
Beka - TurboTrance
Bog - Compact
Chris - Fullmoon
Cosmic Serpant - DMT
Dhira - Body and Mind/ Dragon Hunter
Dica - Doof
Dimitri Nakov - Spun
D-nox - Sprout / plastik park
Don Ziggy - stardustcreations
Dris Hadra - Hadra
Edoardo - Nurobiotic
Eyal - Hommega
Feio - xxxperience
Goetz - Synergy Tribe
Greg - Mandala
James Liquid - Liquid Connective
John Flemming -
Kemix - Psy 16
Ketamind - Doof
Kodomo -
Kristian - Antiworld
L'elf - TurboTrance
Arch 070 - Arche Of Alliance Project
Mars - Acidance
Mat Mushroom - Mushroom Magazine
Mindsphere - Psyturk
Moonchild - Intelligent Monkey
Mute - Saklikent
Nirmalji - Noise Poison Rcds
Zefer - Neutronix
Ozzie - Tribedelic
Pan - Etnicanet
PaulTylor - Spun
Pena - Flow
Profane - Dance n dust
Raptor - Australiens
Redax Mental - Interzone/Psytronic
Sal - Stargate
Sally Dollaly - Plastic Park
ShaneGobi - Alchemy
Slater - Tribal Vision Records
Stella Nutella - Sweden
Taka - Mother
Trip Tych - TurboTrance
Triptamine -
Universal - Saklikent
Vanja -
Young - Etnicanet
Zen-g - Groove Meditation
CHILL OUT AREA HOSTED BY NECTAR TEMPLE CREW-
MORE ARTISTS TO COME BY NECTAR TEMPLE
Aliji -
Beka - Turbo trance
Bon - Digital Psionics
Deeper in Zen - Soular
Dica - Doof
Digital Mystery Tour -
DJ Kris "Elysium" -
Dymons - Peak
Electrip-Dub -
Flooting Grooves PearceVan - Peak
Fundeela - PeaceCenterCorp./NovaTekk
Ghost - Nano
HideyoBlackmoon -
Ishq - Aleph Zero
James Liquid - Liquid
Jon - SangitaSounds
Liese - Mushroom Magazine
Mauxuam -
Michele Adamson - Spun
Mouss -
Nova - Ultimea/Antiworld
Peaking Goddess Collective - Peak
PKS - Chill Tribe
Profane - Dance and Dust
Ramses - Mad Hatter
Serra -
Shahar - Aleph Zero
Shulman - Aleph Zero
Simon Spongle - Twisted
Slater - Tribal Vision
Soul Surfer - Millenium
Sundara -
Tajmahal - ElectrikDream/Ultimea
Tripple Distilled - Boshke Beat/ G+
Vanja -
Vataff - Vataff Project
VJ's to blow your eyes a way..
PSYNEMA Live Intro.
Buzz T & El Geko
INSIDE-US-ALL
Circuit VIII
JAMES LIQUID
MAUXUAM
PUMPUI
TRIPTAMINE
Deco Teams To Fascinate Your Mind..
BALI & INDIGOKIDS CREW Deco ChillOut Hosted By:
AQUA-VEDA
D.M.T. NECTAR TEMPLE
PEMPVISION
DREAM TEAM
MAE-MOA
ANWA MADE
TRIXX
Performing Artists For Your Live Deco..
MAXFIRE
MAYAKARA
FIREDANCER
KIKO-MAGIC SPORTS
MAGMA
MAUDE.B & JULIEN W.
AND MANY MORE....
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Thanks for the fast responses, almost all acts are cleared out, except for Apex, CCL and Deeper in Zen.
I will definately try to experience Yab Yum, EVP and Reality Grid. Samples sounds promising.
Soulclipse here I come.
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Can somebody give me some more information about the music style of following artists? These are artists I know very little or nothing about and they are coming to play on the Soulclipse. So I know if I should check them out on the fest or not. Tnx!
- Ajja
- Apex
- CCL
- Deeper in Zen
- Double Impact
- EVP
- Inner Action
- Jellyheadz
- Reality Grid
- Yab Yum
Mostly dark I guess?
Cheers!
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Well that's what I call some good news
I didn't recognize any of those tracks, so I supposed most them were his.
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1. Neelix - No Way To Leave
2. Wizzy Noise - Sabotage
3. Ticon - Zero Six After
4. Jaïa - Fiction
5. Shpongle - Nothing Lasts But Nothing Is Lost
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Ten years ago I went to my first rock festival, for the very first time I danced on electronic music with thousands of people. Yep, the rock festival had acts like Daft Punk and The Prodigy lined up. I remember for the first time I saw people smoking 'drugs'. I also remember I chatted on the internet for the first time on this festival in a special internet van.
I fixed myself a date through the net that time.
And I almost touched Keith Flint.
Yep good times 10 years ago.
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I'm definately coming, somethings telling me it will be a unique experience in all aspects of everything allways (tickets bought btw)
And the line-up is amazing, but what's more amazing is the fact that it's only half of it (that's what Indigokids are saying).
And the most positive thing about the line-up is that almost all genres of pystrance are included.
F.e. -> Progressive: Phoney Orphants, Ticon, Atmos, Son Kite...
-> Dark: Kindzadza, Digital Talk, Penta,...
-> Full-on: Protoculture, Rinkadink, Wizzy Noise...
-> Psytek: Midi Miliz, X-Dream,...
-> Oldschool sound is missing, but oldschoolacts such Hallucinogen, Absolum, Antidote are their...
-> Crazy Finnish/(dont if know its all Finnish)... sounds: There are rumours Texas Faggot, Kiwa, Squaremeat, Eraser vs Yojalka are plaing.
And that's not even 1/3 of the line-up.
Not the mention the solar eclipse ofcourse
Only thing that's bothering me is the organisational aspects and the fact you don't have much transparancy in the organisation and their eagerness with giving information.
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Lol
Maybe Necton? Yumade? Sensum?
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Serious Porn Collector, really! Very minimal, very entrancing.
And Sensient too ofcourse.
And maybe Auricular,
old POTS
and Segment?
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You 're right his albums didn't get me buying them either, although I think when played on a loud soundsystem they would do just fine. His collaborations are really what trance is all about, especially THIS andTHIS one. His dj-set at Sonica this year really was a bliss to my ears and I hope a lot of the tracks he played their are on his new album (if most of them were his ofcourse).
Too me Tristan is one of the best dj's around...
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Eagerly waiting for that Tristan album!
I hope its as good as his sets
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Nevertheless I'm glad you join me in my opinion.
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Isn't this track like the embodiement of progressive trance?
It's sooo good, deep topnoch perfecto, and a very positive use of singing in the last minute or 2.
I'm having it for a long time, but really started to notice the track right now.
imo
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Good job Mars!
Well hellooow Psynews!
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I still think Magnetrixx should be in the list, existing from 1995, with Gluonball being one of the best progressive tracks ever, and they released 3 full albums so far.
My 2 cents
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This is the mail I got back, after mailing them about the ticketprice.
Pretty sincere I guess.
I'm still going!
Hello there,
Thanx for your mail & the interest in the festival.
I'll try to explain to ya the reason of this price..
1st of all this is not your common festival this happens once in
about every 18months..as ya know..its alot of aspects to take care of such as
providing the safety glass alot of political issues in Turkey and a huge line up ..
What is on the website is not even half... It will all be announced very shortly..
Also if you look at the prices of the other eclipse festivals we are not more
expensive then the them...As for Samotraki festival i was there and i payed 160 euros
and that was 3 years ago..
and that was just a festival..no eclipse happeningthere..but alot of cops..
..and if ya think its to expensive ya can buy the tickets now..hope this helps..
thanx again..Boom!!
luv & smiles..Hilla
IndigoKids
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See ya on the dance floor..
ONE LOVE...
Espcially this part "What is on the website is not even half... It will all be announced very shortly.." makes me smile.
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Holy shit, you definitaly forgot Magnetrixx... One of the best acts out there I reckon.
But my vote goes to Ticon.
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Xibalba
Bitmonx
Neelix
Element
Minilogue
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can't think of more right now.
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The Deedrah remix is the best. I really like that one. Not so fullonish as the rest IMO.
Low bpm more entrancing than high bpm?
in General Psytrance
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Well that's some reply!
I have to read it again to get it all. But thanks for you time
And that trance.edu site seems like just the spot I was looking for. I will be investigating this site the following days.
But I want to get one thing clear already: "In passing, we can mention that a link is often made between the alpha waves frequencies of the human brain, associated with the state of trance, between 8 and 12 Hz, and a constant stream of 16th notes which, when played at the suggested average of 145 bpm, yields a flow of musical events at an average of 10 Hz. Coincidence or more ?"
My mathematical and scientific english isn't that good. But does this suggests 145bpm is 'the best trance inducing rhythm?" Or did I understand this completely wrong?