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Sorry for resurrecting old topic, but I just discovered Dark Nebula recently and I'm delighted. Before, this gave me headaches. Now, this harsh atonal madness clicks somehow. I know this is nowhere how tough it can get, but it's where I'm now.
Love Robotic Tongue, Sacred Scars and Dreamfuel.Favorite track: Toxic Reality... or most tracks on these albums. Other albums are either too minimalistic, or don't have the sheer twisted rule-breaking atmosphere of these three.
And yes, I am fishing for more recommendations like this. Something twisted but playful at the same time. It can be dark, but has to be rich and complex.
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On 22. 12. 2017 at 2:40 PM, Dagani said:
Anahata - Conduktor
Synsun - Phoenix
Synsun - Phoenix has been growing on me a lot. I don't understand why the album has such a low rating on discogs. The first track is a blast, I like it. The Phoenix track 8 is a perfectly designed sound mayhem, it reminds me of The Lone Deranger a lot. And the next track 9 sounds like slowed down "Star Shpongled Banner" and "Around The World in a Tea Daze" slowed down, which I also love. There's a lot of talent to create something so similar to the maestro Posford. Thank you for the tip!!!
I will need to give Conduktor a second chance, I heard it once years ago when I preferred the Unmade sound album.
Sorry for listening so sporadically, there's been some health issues, so I'm gathering the albums for the hopefully near future!
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On 19. 12. 2017 at 1:13 PM, Hasheeshian said:
God damn I couldn't have said it better myself.
And regarding freedom: I think structures have to be balanced with an open mind. We don't want to get locked up in our own structures, but a "too open mind" won't do you much good either. I think we have to sacrifice some of our freedom (freedom to "do whatever we want to" atleast) when we find a goal worthy of pursuing, that's called dedication. But when we dedicate ourself to a purpose and it is one we've chosen ourself and feel is "true", we'll find ourself more free than ever. When we create something we create it from the chaos that is freedom, by making decisions based on our values and ideas. And to do this we must first trust ourselves, otherwise how would you know what decisions to make?
There's one recent quote I heard, that sums it up perfectly. "If you sell your soul for the devil's offer, think you will be the same person to enjoy the result?"
Yes, there is freedom from something, but once you are committed, there is for example the freedom to be with the one woman you love.
You also hint at the problem with religion. Atheists of 19th century destroyed religion, but they provided nothing that would promote family stability, sexual restraint and state integrity as much as religion. Also, by removing God or anything higher than human, human authority is the highest again. A Communist committee can take property and lives as they please, because they have the majority agreement and there is nothing higher than that, there is no God. Nietzsche correctly predicted that 20th century was going to be Bloodshed. I think we need God, the archetype of high-quality spirituality. But I think we aren't supposed to be LARPing ancient Middle East cultures. We need to really understand what they knew and rephrase it in today's modern knowledge. I tell you with all my future authority, spirituality is glorified plasma physics, but it won't make much sense to you, unless you experience something and have some theoretical background. This is not common knowledge. I think the present needs for average people are well served by Christianity plus Jordan Peterson's explanation.
8 hours ago, AiKyO said:Pretty much that to me. People are traumatized by the stupid excessive and nonsensical discipline of modern society but sometime don't realize their concept of freedom has also been shaped by this very society. Getting wasted on the weekend and getting out of your head is very capitalist (I was actually shocked how much the rave culture is consumerist!).
I have found this thread (:What are the Worst Thing about Psytrance and it's Culture? - 2013) and a lot of people state drug as one of the issues with the scene. But drug isn't an issue of the scene, it's an issue of the capitalist society we drag on - because we are not always so different we would like to be and we tend to enhance (sometimes in excess, excess being so freaking capitalist) those aspect.
Drug use did not exist in most part of the world before colonialism and good occidental society brought them alcohol. So now some of you say i'll kill fun. Some of the fun has to die, some will live on - the chill, the craziness. I have seen people chilling without alcool, or even weed, "all you need is spirit and nothing", right? There's some truth to that. And that's why I don't consider psychedelics to be drugs, they reveal the spirit and have a certain way to do so - they also lead me to spirituality, the discipline and killed my drug addiction (soft but here), how could I consider them same as speed, alcohol, even MDMA to a point, etc? I can't.
Discipline is purposefulness (I join Hasheeshian here), where does your purpose comes from? What does it imply? For me it implies a sense of sacredness, it is why I was attracted toward the psytrance scene in the first place - and I gravitate toward Goa trance because it gets me into trance in no time, the goal was trance, shamanic trance and divine extasies at some point (right?). And that kind of music is super structured, it's very square but also very organically and crazy at the same time, and most importantly it get you there. There is a purpose.
There is this sense of learning I find amazing in Goa, I find it back in martial art or meditation, from repetition, endless repetition, leading to endless variations, there is learning. I think those spirits are very much alike.
We have a whole world that is a strange balance between supreme seriousness and lousy fun - meanwhile our ancestors had discipline and were leaving a "freer" life in a highly sacred and wise way, and it did not meant dogma forcibly, just look at (their) mythology: it's weird, quirky, absurd, mystical, contradictory, poetic to the root, ... It escapes definition (but does so in a certain way), isn't that freedom? ...I don't think people are traumatized by excessive discipline. Discipline is an internal thing. If it comes from the outside, it's oppression and exploitation. Working men are exploited by taxes and by money printing. But we also have licentiousness and neglect. If you place infants in daycare, they will lack secure emotional attachment, they become very brittle, hysterical, unable to tolerate any disagreement. Then they get to college and we get kangaroo courts for not using fake pronouns. Freedom and discipline have not been tried yet. I don't think getting wasted is capitalist or not, alcoholism and hard drugs were much in use in socialist and national socialist regimes also, and the history of prohibition is complex. If you want capitalism, read on Capitalism and Protestant ethics by Max Weber, real capitalism (not cronyism) can be very sober and ascetic. Which I think is not healthy either. Just meet some real businessmen, not corporate employees, and ask if they are getting wasted, especially during a startup. We live in cronyism, not capitalism. I have even heard modern democracy called "participatory fascism", I think that fits. If cronyism is capitalism, then slaves picking cotton is gardening.
Alcohol is a winter thing. We evolved to process alcohol, because it was a way to preserve fruit and sugar for winter and it also kills bacteria. Still other cultures ferment fruit, even monkeys do. But don't worry, other cultures retaliated against the evil colonialists with tobacco!
I don't know about psychedelics. I think we share all the aesthetics, but I don't see the spirit, I sense spirit. Touch sense. Spirit is the powerful electric plasma substance that I live with, that courses in my body. That plasma itself is mind-altering and has its seasons, its ebb and flow, a will of its own. I do my best to alter my mind, but with absolute control over my chemistry. I'm altering my baseline, not exploring the upper limits. It's about power, voltage, that I am able to attract and conduct without failure. If marijuana taught me anything, it's that I need to be perfectly sober to face the power out there, can't have any distractions. Just having the touch sense and no sight of the spirit cuts down on distractions a lot. Doesn't mean I never saw anything, or that I don't want to see more.I do have a purpose. Hell, I could become a known figure eventually. But I want to have marriage and children, for me that is the ultimate test of functionality as a person, creating the sacred home where new minds are created and released as arrows to launch at the specter of society. But first I need to fix my soul, a part is broken in there. I need to fix my etheric body, it's a mess in some areas. It physically hurts and burns, it can be nauseating and exhausting, like poison. Some of the chakras and meridians need a real overhaul, regularly. That's another reason I don't want psychedelics, no way I am doing such shenanigans with damaged equipment. Who knows what I will have access to once the equipment is fixed.
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There are majority leftists on the forum? Well, I would be an exception then. I am nearly everything, or was, and abandoned all that for good reasons. I am the process and I am thorough. Conservatism is something I have acquired and did not abandon yet, if I ever will. There is nothing anti-system about being a leftist, haven't been for generations. All that the system needed was to take over schools, teach false economics, burden students with debt and offer them free stuff from the government, paid by printed money (see the false economics). That's it, the left is the system now, if it ever wasn't. The individualism, white ethnic in-group preference, having borders, low to no taxes, acceptance of economic disparity (in private sector), and some tongue-in-cheek racism, that's the new counter-culture. And I much appreciate Hasheeshian's remark, there is no freedom, only inside structures (such as the European-type civilization, that used to be a nice structure). Outside structures there is nothing to support you, inside there is some freedom and some restriction. The the more free you want to be from the cultural and political structures, the more structure you must have inside yourself, or you fail. Freedom is pretty much the same thing as discipline. You have as much freedom as you are disciplined. Freedom without discipline is license, or licentiousness, hence the liberals.
I am everything, and that means both spiritually hippy and intellectual, skeptical and reverent. While I don't care for ethnic wailing in music, I can appreciate the spiritual quotes. "We humans are..." I care about the rest of the sequence and can offer my investigations.
I've been born energy sensitive. I tell you, meditation is not just for relaxing. There are techniques to meditation (i.e. various yogas) that turn you into a live Alex Grey painting. His paintings are very accurate, although slightly cheesy (and he could stow that Obama pic). We are walking plasma reactors, of some kind. I've done it all, Shakti energy from above, Kundalini from below, a few other things that don't have a catchy name yet, it's all real, though not all safe.I could talk about myself more, in fact I did and deleted it, I did too much, it was getting awkward. I want to get to the important part. To join the Nietzsche club, there is no price too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. If you don't own yourself, you can't own anything else. You can't even love, because who is doing the loving? This is not some vanishing ego crap, you must always distinguish between the real ego death and just not owning, nor loving yourself. You can do backflips with the angels, you can hold the door for God. But unless you know, own and love yourself, none of your buffs will stack and you can tell goodbye to combos and synergy in your life. As Freud said, all you need is love and work. Work and love, and life is well spent. Love is a peculiar thing, because while you can fall in lust with a pretty... face, you can only love what you know, and what is virtuous. If you don't know yourself, you can't even accept love. And if you can't, off to the Jungian salt mines you go, and by salt I mean tears. Everything else can be taught, found, defined or envisioned, it's just stuff out there, been there, done that. But you, your soul, your true self, that's in a whole different league. As drab or unimpressive as it may seem, it's the whole difference between you having your bank card and someone else having it.
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On 16. 12. 2017 at 7:49 PM, Paul Eye said:
Okay, no offense meant, but you quite thoroughly managed to confuse me with your likes/dislikes and goa monkeys
Makes it a bit difficult to figure out what to recommend.
And what exactly is there about Ektoplazm that you dislike? I can honestly say that you're the first person I've ever seen say that.Please ask Iron Sun! He seems to get it. Maybe it's some Arabian or Indian influence in Goa, but a few repetitive and fast notes in most Goa albums, in suspenseful mood, how hard is it to miss?
Anyway, once upon a time I learned about Ektoplazm, the place of free music. I downloaded lots of albums and they all rubbed me the wrong way. Notably - Easily Embarrassed - Tales of the coin spinner. Lots of things I found on Ektoplazm were something weird, like Space Granny (Babuska). Maybe I'm biased against free stuff when it comes to quality. People shouldn't tell me if something is from Ektoplazm or not, so I don't get biased
13 hours ago, Manuser said:Wizzy Noise - Elecktro Theater is a fantastic album (too bad it is not on Youtube), Discogs link > https://www.discogs.com/Wizzy-Noise-Elecktro-Theater/release/144255
It should be perfect for a good work out.You can also try 12 moons - Solid State Youtube link
Drone - 23 days Youtube link is a fantastic album too, but more like Atmos, on the chill side but great nonetheless.And how about more intense psytrance like OOOD - You think you are > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=OOOD+you+think+you+are
Wizzy Noise? Judging from the first song "Radical Payne", it's simple, repetitive, and yet so catchy! I like this! Thank you very much! I wish more artists knew the meaning of catchy. This is going to go well together, I actually read during workout, so simpler music is not bad. It reminds me of Son Kite - Colours in this aspect. Got any more of where that came from? Their Renaissance album has the highest rating I've ever seen on Discogs, with 47 votes.
12 Moons Solid State... That's somehow familiar. Will give it a second listen.
Drone - 23 days - you're right, it's on the softer side. I'm not sure I actually have a niche for this. Too soft for the trance folder, too hard for the psychill folder, too normal for the electronic folder.
OOOD is an odd one. The album is sometimes simple and loud, like Techno, then it changes, but it gets weird. I can tell it's very original, it's going to take some growing on me.
It's not easy for me to review a lot of music at once, because I get deeply tranced out. Can't type.11 hours ago, IronSun said:I chuckled while reading this. Not really the way I see it, but funny none-the-less.
How about the latest Oforia? 'Read more...' is definitely worth the listen. https://www.discogs.com/Oforia-Read-More/release/8985054
Oh, you understand! Maybe you can explain to others. Maybe there's a name for these repetitive Goa melodies.
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14 hours ago, Padmapani said:
nice favourites list. i'd say you have a good taste in music if you had not included logic bomb at the other end of the spectrum
what's blatantly missing in your collection is etnoscope. for goa trance i think you'd also like aeternum/ominus/encens. good progressive artists that'd fit in with the rest are protonica and soul kontakt. also don't forget to check out ticon's latest album; it's different than his usual stuff. maybe also robert elster; his album is not purely psy but crossing the borders between progressive and minimalistic acid trance, but since he is half of vibrasphere it's still excellent music.
Ethnoscope: Right, I especially liked two songs of theirs: Jävla Sladdar and Odin's Kraft. The whole album sounds nice, but it fallen aside because it's quite relaxed. It doesn't distract from the pain of workout, the way that Infected Mushroom can!
- I will look for Protonica's least minimalist album.
- Robert Elster made an album? Must hear it! Thanks for the tip!
- Ticon's latest album is in my probationary folder. Casual listens didn't hook me, so it will be put to the test in practice, next workout.
- Soul Kontakt sounds nice! I'll see if I can put his EPs together to make some full-length mix.7 hours ago, Paul Eye said:What's definitely missing from your list is Algae Bloom - The Blossom, unless ~130BPM melodic prog (or "daypsy" as the artist himself likes to call it) is too slow for your tastes
Just out of pure interest, mind giving one or a few examples of this? Just to see if your definition differs from mine (and thus, if there's something I should not recommend).
Algae Bloom is very, very good. Even though I dislike Ektoplazm
As for the bad goa melody examples, that would be these albums. It feels like it's supposed to promote suspense, but a whole album of wicked suspense is too much. Hell, it's the whole genre of the suspenseful melody. It's everywhere, even in Khetzal - Corolle, although that album is great otherwise. After all these years, it just sounds to me like somebody long ago in Goa jungle had a troop of monkeys steal 90 % of their keys and was stuck with just a couple of notes, but still had to play a concert. And then it stuck and now many great artists are limiting themselves to just a few suspenseful notes, playing them extra fast, just switching a key here and there. There's just so much variety you can get out of a monkey-raided synth. I know Hallucinogen counts as Goa trance, but he's nothing like that.
Here are some examples. I can tell they're good and they're trying their best, but they're held back by the Goa monkeys.
Hypnoxock - Eurythmia [Goa Madness Records] (2017)
Etnica - Alien Protein
Filteria – Sky Input, Heliopolis
MFG – New Kind Of World
Morphic Resonance - Trip To The Stars
Dimension 5 - TransStellar
Good stuff found:
GoaTree - Black Star Of The Death - this is Goa, but what comes to mind is freedom on the keyboard. This guy kept the monkeys from his synth with a shotgun. Maybe sacrificed a few of them to the goddess Kali.
Ethnica - Mad crickets - just a song, but it proves that it doesn't have to be that way! I must check out the whole album.
K.O.B. - Identity Mash - Filteria's alter. Pleasant surprise!
Perfect Blind - Stratum - not trance, but captured my ear, must check it out. I've been persisting on a diet of Martin Nonstatic lately and this fits in. I think I will put it in dark corner with E-Mantra - Hermit's Sanctuary. -
Hello dear fellow listeners! I hope I am not breaking any local rules. I did search for "rules", but only found rules for reviewing. So please have a look over this and tell me in your best opinion, what are you missing in that list? I am looking for some new stuff in my collection, but having a hard time to find it.
I am not a big Goahead. I'm more into the Swedish trance (you know, with drums) and progressive. I can't get into most Discogs recommendations, sometimes it looks like I already picked out all the good stuff. But it's been years! Something good had to come out meantime. Atmos sounds nice, but he's kinda slow for exercise. If I want ambient music, I go to Ultimae Records. Almost all of the listed music is fast and consistent enough for a 1-hour workout. But it's also trippy and interesting.
All time favorites:
human blue - misstarryas xperience, Base Basket Buffet
Son Kite - Colours
Hallucinogen - The Lone Deranger, Twisted
Prometheus - Robot O'Chan, Corridor of Mirrors
Infected Mushroom - Converting..., I am the supervisor, BP Empire
Raja Ram's Stashbag vol. 4
Sonic Elysium - Mahaon
Astral Projection - Amen, Dancing Galaxy
Aural Planet - Power Liquids
Blue Planet Corporation - Blue Planet
Filteria - Daze of our lives, Lost in the wild
Green Nuns of the Revolution - Rock Bitch Mafia
Vibrasphere - Archipelago (can't exercise to this though)
Decent enough to keep:
Andromeda - Sensations
Antix - Lull
Khetzal - Corolle
Cosmosis - Contact, Synergy, Cosmology, Psychedelica Melodica... yes, he's nice to listen to.
Jaia - Fiction
Juno Reactor - Beyond the infinite, Transmissions
Nystagmus - Immaculate perception
Organix - Photosynthesis
Pavel Svimba - Space Babuska (yes, really)
Simply D - Fragrance of Violet (on the verge of commercial, but good side of the verge)
Solar Fields - Earthshine (must honor the maestro)
Sub6 - Saved (kinda short )
Tegma - Encoded decoded
Transwave - Phototropic
Chromosome - DMT Cowboys
Mentalimage - Dreams 2
Cosma - Nonstop
Good songs, didn't like the rest of the album:
DigiCult - Star Travel
Freq - Dreambody, Carbon-based lifeform
Nova Fractal - Blindsight, Common Cold, Connect
Ticon - We are the mammoth hunters
Tandu - The SystemHate list: (no good reason, just stuff that isn't like misStArRyAs Xperience)
All the Goa trance that has all the same key lowly growly almost atonal pseudo-melody.
Anything by Son Kite that's not Colours. Or Where the fields never end...
New Infected Mushroom stuff. Except Army of Mushrooms.
Most Eat Static stuff. Except Dead Planet.
Can't get into Logic Bomb.
X-Dream, The Delta, Trinodia
Power Source - Cosmic waves
Dark Nebula
Hope list:
something by Astrix
Hydrophonic – Aquabatics
something by Ananda Shake-
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Some of my most ambient favorites. Do you have anything that goes well with that?
Thom Brennan - Mist, Strange Paradise (Secret Faiths of Salamanders)
Markus Guentner - Theia
Ishq - Sama
Solar Fields - Extended
Loscil - Plume
Sync24 - Source
Proton Kinoun - Apeiron
Kyoto - Scapes and Spheres
Lauge - Pusterum
Om - Viaje al Interior -
Beyond...
but Labyrinth has a special place in my heart because I love the matrix series.
As mentioned before, JR is big in Japan, I was in Tokyo in 2001 and HMV was full of JR Oddyssey posters.
I didn't like Gods and monsters but their latest album is very good.
Interesting. Gods and monsters is a very chaotic album. But it has several very good tracks - I mean, melodies. Inca Steppa is good, Immaculate Crucifixion, City of the Sinful, Tanta Pena, even the song Perfect Crime are great. I can get used to some of the rest.
On their latest album Golden Sun..., I failed to detect any good melodies. It's all top quality and big style, but the melodies are simplistic, it's mostly just one big ethnic soundscape. I'd call it elaborate emptiness, as far as melody is concerned.
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- Have you ever witnessed phenomena which cannot be explained?
- Have you ever saw something which the law of (known) physics or modern knowlegde fail to determine or describe?
- Have you ever felt anything happening that brought you into an unknown side of our reality?
Yes, yes and yes, all the time.
However, after years of study and thinking I'd say all these supernatural phenomena can be explained by science, through a new interpretation of knowledge we already have. We only need to understand that we live in a world of invisible plasmatic matter, called "dark matter". This matter however uses the very same natural forces as ours - electric, magnetic, and so on. I have been through a lot, but nothing that couldn't be explained by conversion of matter or by interaction electric fields of the visible and invisible matter.
The only difference is, that dark matter has a bit more loose atomic structure, so the atoms don't "lock in" their orbitals with ours, neither they reflect normal light. It however happily responds to conventional electric fields and likes to concentrate around and within layered conductive materials like human body. Furthermore, normal matter is just a condensed dark matter, specially in neutrons.
You could see a halfway decent compilation work on this on dapla.org
As for the secret of gravitational engine, try googling Keshe Foundation, this scientist claims to have discovered it, together with lots of other cool stuff.
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I practice Atheism often. It's not easy - you have to know how to refute logical fallacies and creationist arguments, it takes lots of biology and geology to be an atheist nowadays
But actually, my primary "religion" is Theosophy. It's rather a philosophy, a method of expanding the consciousness. I use it, because I have many strange experiences and nothing else really fits on them but Theosophy. People have classified it as agnostic pantheism. I don't know if there's a God, but he better be at least as big and complex (as the) universe, or I'm not impressed.
I don't know about God, but this spiritual enlightenment thing, that's real. I am tripping with my third eye blazing like little high-voltage coil... Well, but that's my private business. I'll see where it leads.
If I'm religious about something, it's militant humanism. I have a great faith in humanity that we will work to get over this crisis and live in a new society where humans come first, and all the lowly isms like capitalism or socialism come second and must serve humanity. Right now it's the other way. I get real militant if someone doubts this to my face, that's blasphemy!
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SA? What is that? South African psytrance? This may include this and more:SA psy. Power, melodies and ENERGY.
Frozen Ghost, Shift, Zion Linguist, Hiyarant, Hydraglyph, Pitch Hikers, Rubix Qube, Headroom, Parana, SCAM, Artifakt, Broken Toy, Dirty Motion, The Commercial Hippies, Protoculture, Rinkadink, Phyx, Slug, Tickets, Chemogen, Brethren, Psymatix, eXcell, Biorhythm, emp, Smugg Juggler, Multistate, Glitch, Lost&Found, Twisted System, Enough Weapons, Vivid, Plus Minus, Terrorbyte, Bruce, ON, Archive, Deliriant, Lil' Faerie, Chaos Defined, Fright Rate
Any recommendations, based on what I already posted that I like?
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So far, good hits were Son Kite - Colours and also somewhat less Cosma - Nonstop. I imagine Blue Planet Corporation - Blue Planet is a good choice too, but my memory is a little hazy. I know I liked it enough to put it into the library, but workout needs something harder.
Khetzal - Corolle and Jaia - Fiction are very nice albums, but not with enough regular beat, Khetzal has a lot of ambient phases and Jaia too, but they're named apart (the gate tracks) and can be deleted.
This one's way too much cryptic and crunchy. Almost not a musicWhy not Hux-Flux - Cryptic Crunch. Makes you forget about that goa
As for Goa, I admit I need a rest from these identically sounding convoluted synth melodies. That's why I appreciate some more minimalistic yet original Swedish trance, like Human Blue, Son Kite and even tried Ticon. From Ticon I really liked the track "We are the mammoth hunters", but other than that his music felt a little blank.
I can only emphasize how much I like Human Blue – misStArRyAs Xperience. I think this one is a masterpiece, incredibly psychedelic and immersive, with pleasant and original sounds and my favorite melancholic moods. It's different from harder and darker legends like Hallucinogen, but I still put it at the top of my trance folder. Is that a fullon trance?
I also tried Chromosome - DMT Cowboys which is not bad at all! Except it's the cheesiest trance music I ever heard. Lots and lots of Raja Ram in it. Not good for putting on loudspeakers when people might overhear.
Another try was Kino Oko, but I don't know yet what to think about him. It was weird, but I don't know yet if good weird or bad weird. It only sounded like someone tried really really hard to be different and original. It's a little too downtempo for workout and too uptempo for easy listening, I don't know if I have an ecologic niche for it yet.
Next I want to try
Portamento - The Portal
Power Source - Cosmic Waves
Deto & Gleam - The Archives (the album art is terrible, but the rating on discogs is high)
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Yes, it's another recommendation topic, but don't switch back. This summer I've picked up some regular exercise, an hour every day. And I need some good music to keep me going. I have my favorite albums, but there's too few of them and I can't listen to the same music too often.
So I went forth to explore the various trance genres more in depth. And found out that I don't really like it that much.
These are the classics I know AND love AND found very good for workouts:
Astral Projection - Amen
Aural Planet - Power Liquids
Green Nuns OTR - Rock Bitch Mafia
Human Blue - Misstarryas Xperience
Hallucinogen - The Lone Deranger, Twisted
Infected Mushroom - (middle era albums) Converting Vegetarians, Classical Mushroom, I am the supervisor
Prometheus - Corridor of Mirrors
Juno Reactor - Beyond the Infinitie
Raja Ram - Raja Ram's Stashbag vol. 4
Vibraspheree - Archipelago (got to check back at early Vibrasphere albums again)
Plus some non-trance:
Bachelors of Science - Science Fiction (DnB)
Shakatura - Shakatura
ZubZub - The powers that beep
The albums that were recommended on Discogs as similar but that I didn't really like:
Filteria - Sky Input
Man With No Name - Moment of Truth
MFG - New Kind of World
Transwave - Helium
Etnica - Alien Protein
Total Eclipse - Violent Relaxation, Delta Aquarids
X.Dream - Radio
Shakta - Silicon Trip
Human Blue - all the rest of his trance albums. Some tracks are good and the BBB album sounds similar, but none gives me shivers like the MX.
Basically, I don't like these low and high-pitched dead-simple convoluted tunes repeated all over, in exactly the same key and mood, the tense, quirky lurky Goa atmosphere.
I dare to claim that the examples above mostly don't suffer from this, They're highly melodic and the mood is different and the melody is in tune with the mood. Some mainstream feel is acceptable. The music is like a progressing story, not just a set of uptempo soundscapes.
I have surely stumbled upon Goa gems of great complexity and genius, but I didn't feel like working out when listening to them. At the very least I need something at which I can read. (my machine can hold an ebook-reader) But many of the above uplift me from reading into... blissful trance, which is I guess the point of this music.
There must be something ear-friendly, complex and melodic enough, rhythmic, trancey, psychedelic if possible, but not 604-like. It may be dark or light, doesn't matter, just interesting enough.
I'll have to check out
Chi A.D. - Infinitism, Blue Planet Corporation, Koxbox - The great unknown, Talamasca - Zodiac (yes, I practice astrology for fun), And I also kind of liked Filteria - Daze of our lives. Maybe because the name is funny.
But enough about me. What is your workout music? One that either uplifts you from the pain into bliss, or lets you read a book while exercising?
Lastly, I apologize for all the Goa Trance fans who's feelings I've rejected.
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Thank you guys! I'm gonna try that whole compilation if it keeps the quality up.
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This is from a concert in Eilat desert, year 2000+something. You can hear that from the included commercials, sponsors are Heineken and Pepsi. Heineken Sundance festival, or something like that. I don't know about that because this CD was an old gift from a friend.
Other tracks on the set are mostly from the later albums like Amen, tracks like Chaos, Sticks & Stones, Anything Is Possible. There are also other tracks, People can fly and Let there be light.
But I can't identify the last track, it's a quite nice one, all dreamy, rolling and floaty though nothing ambient. Maybe it's not AP at all, I haven't heard it on other albums. Or maybe it's a single from some compilation.
Here it is, a direct link:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/37423101/astral%20projection%20-%20unknown%20track.mp3
Of course, recommendations of a similar music is always welcome
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The review says it well. Forget that it's Hallucinogen and Prometheus behind the knobs and enjoy what remained: the melancholy!
When I did that, I actually thought, that's good! No psychedelic feelings or lovely melodies, but if this would play on radio, I wouldn't mind at all. Something good to relax and play on background without other people giving you weird looks. Something normal in your collection to play when normal people hang around. Think of it as YB fundraising project to patch the holes from all this digital piracy.
Just please first delete the song Safety in Numbers or your safety is not guaranteed
But I'm really curious about the opinion of Coldplay fans.
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If I see any message in this album, it's elaborate pointlessness. It all says "I'm such a good musician that I don't need to bother with maintaining style, melody or thinking about names forthe songs."
I think that music is a language of emotion. In this case, this is a series of very skillfully and artistically played senseless phrases and sentences. People say that Satchmo could just stand and sing names from a Yellow pages book and it would still sound wonderful. Well, this is what the album is about.
There aren't (m)any mindblowing melodies. It's more like film soundtrack or elevator music, without any captivating musical themes that would compete with your attention. If you search for the beautiful melancholy of the first or even second Ott's album, search elsewhere. Here it's all about feely-goody major keys and no musical message to remember. The sound just comes out of nowhere, has nothing to say and fizzles out into nowhere. Elaborately, with top quality and style, of course. Which is just what you want if you're chilling out and having a good time.
Can you enjoy this album? Definitely, it's a well-made album. It's just a question of what you want from music. This is not Ott as we know him. This is what many artists do, they try a new style every several years and shed their old fans like a snake skin.
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Do me a favor please and tell me. I'm always glad for thematized recommendations. I hope it won't be something like Biosphere's Substrata or Klaus Schulze's Irrlicht.I've heard much better pure ambient/drone music, this album is not very interesting unfortunately.
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Yeah, that's my #1, personally rated better than HG. WoS' sturdy beats and extremely psychedelic soft tunes lead the way. The variety between tracks is also nice. You may think it's less coherent, I think HG is a bit too much coherent and not so psychedelic, the atmosphere remains kind of light, unless you're really immersed to pay total attention to details like slight variations in melody and rhythm. It doesn't compel you to listen, like let's say, Photosynthesis. But HG is definitely my #2.World of Sleepers was another solid album. It was equally fine mix of sturdy beats, spacey samples and colourful soundscapes. I found it a little less coherent than HG, but that could be simply because the flow of HG is 100% hard-coded in my spine. Still plenty of big hits on WoS, so to speak.
Now Interloper...for some it's the best, for me it didn't work that well. It was fine music again, no doubt, but somehow too casual. The previous albums had a feeling of being somewhere far away. Interloper felt like the title of HUVA Network's track "Sunday Barbecue with the Neighbours". It's very organic and down to earth. There are many analogue elements in its sounds. It's not pre-party, rave party (well, chillout room) or after-party music. It's Sunday noon music. (Add "to me" to everything, of course.) Also, many of the patterns were directly recycled from WoS. That's why it felt like leftovers - of very good stuff, sure, but leftovers nevertheless. Maybe it has its places and times. However, I haven't been in that kind of mood too often. That's why it hasn't received much attention around here.
Exactly, Interloper doesn't sound otherworldly, hypnotic, fascinating and a little wicked. A thought came to me, never have tried it before, but maybe this is what I always wanted and what all these folks call ACID.
Overall, Interloper is a positive and relaxing music. Of course it's innovative, compared to common chillout or ambient artists. But if I sometimes want to warm my heart a little, I put on some Asher Quinn or other New Age instrumentals. (don't look at me like that)
You mean, there are parties, before, during or after which they put on such a music? In my experience, people writhe and squirm in presence of moods used by the Ultimae crew and all their relatives. They want the reassuringly familiar and predictable sounds of mainstream.Then we got Twentythree, surprisingly soon after Interloper. It has fewer beats than any of the previous albums (well, none, really) - but it's cosmic again! Am I just fooled by the cover? I don't think so. It's "far away" music. It's for pre-party, rave party, after-party, planning things, doing serious work, you name it. There's very little Sunday barbecue here. The flow is even more seamless than before. It's easy to spot recycled instruments here too, but this time they're from HG and Irdial EP, which were the heavy stuff. For those reasons, I'd rank it #2 among the main CBL albums.
Many people will undoubtedly disagree but hey, ambient is for listening and discovering your own style, not for teaming up with the cool guys...
As for the album itself, it's definitely one of the best drone albums out there. The sound's not so lush as the brilliant Solar Walk by AstroPilot, but a little minimalism is not a bad thing. Twentythree is very listener-friendly, it doesn't overload your ears like AstroPilot, neither it feeds you weird sounds like another wonderful ambient album by Ishq, Sama. And it's very homogenous and lacking melodies, compared to my favorite piece by Loscil - Plume. Ambient drone music is again not a very universal one, there's not always mood for it, but I think it fits CBL better than heart-warming positive tunes they showed in Interloper.
I think I'll pair this album with VLA, put on headphones play it on a low volume on a group meditation session. It's certainly better than this sweet and innocent relaxation music they usually play.
Eerie, that's the word, thanks Joost!
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Sweet and predictable music. For those who love it, this is the stuff they love. But it's a shame it sounds so conventional and tame, compared to their previous work. The melodies are lovely, but not revolutionary, I didn't get willies, not even once.
I think THE CBL masterpiece is World of Sleepers. It has the right kind of not-sissy melancholy, quirkyness, downtempo, uptempo, uptempo that sounds like downtempo, stunning melodies and fascinating themes. But Interloper... Makes me want to study microbiology and find out and destroy the mysterious virus that lately makes composers all mellowed out.
You may think my soul is deep, dark and twisted and can't fully appreciate sweet sounds. But otherwise I really like some New Age music. Interloper just doesn't hit the right neurons.
OK, the M track is my favorite, must say.
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Don't know the album yet, but this is a wonderful review style. It told me everything I need to know. I prefer it much over the crazy, unreadable Trance2MoveU's "reviews" full of unrelated pictures.
Most of people's reviews here are actually useless, they just muse and ramble about how the music made them feel, which is not very informative, for those who haven't heard it yet. They notoriously forget to mention the genre and style, so I always have to search up the album on Discogs.
(Oh, if there only would be a button to filter out all trance, EPs and V/As!)
Keep up your good work. The only thing to improve would be to add the album front picture.
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This is almost 100% electronic, sounds like the author didn't even had to rise from his laptop. Some hesitant piano melodies, lots of noise and slow boredom. There are some good moments and atmospheres, but they usually don't last all the track before the bittersweetness returns. Without the IDM glitchyness it would be a good movie soundtrack. I think the Oppidan album from Access to Arasaka is somewhat similar, but better, rougher and darker. This music is very moody and bittersweet, so watch out. Hell, the name of the album says it all. This is really for those people who LOVE sweet sadness. Not the Easily Embarrassed kind, but rather... well, the movie kind of it.
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You know, psychedelic music sounds differently to most of pop and rock. It's not just in different dynamics, rhythms, instruments and so on. It takes me just a few seconds to guess if I like the music or not, and that is because its musical key. You know, the general feel of it.
From Aes Dana to Zymosis, from Shpongle to Shulman, it feels differently. Such music is more melancholic, more serious, deep and profound, brooding and so on. It's not so easy to ignore.
Just turn on the radio, hear something common there (Lady Gaga, Britney, Madonna, and all bands who sing and play) and then try some
and hear the difference. If you're a psybient listener like me, and there's a bunch of people playing and singing something mainstream sounding, you can be sure they use a wrong musical key that won't unlock your brain's pleasure centers.So, how to call it cleverly? What key is the radio music in, and what is mostly used by our psybient benefactors?
And please, try to explain it to an ignorant layman
So what do you think about Dark Nebula?
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I am currently exploring this album. Sounds like something I was looking for! Thanks a lot. I also hope the composer is doing well since 2003.
I also tried Electrypnose's Le Tireur de Ficelles, but it's not as tough as I remember it.