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Not really. Who says that artists should follow a particular pattern when they want to change their sound? When an artist wants to evolve, they can use previous influences as well as current influences to develop a new identity. If an artist makes goa, then psy, then full-on, then goes back to goa, I think that's really limited with what they want to do with their creativity. I, for one, wouldn't be upset at all if they decided to make more progressive or techno influenced stuff, just because they are getting tired of the trippy, full power nonsense that they were into in the past.Evolve in your own style you used as roots before, if you made old school i think you should make new school.
Good example is Cosmosis, last few albums were psy and not that much atractive but see last one.
Tracks like Space Siren, Beyond Five Senses and The Eternal Now are powerful.
Thats evolution imo.
I think that is very closed-minded. Perhaps if PoF or Perfect Stranger starts doing more techno than psy, you may not like it, but keep in mind that there are hundreds of artists out there that are probably producing music you like. Artists produce music that they like and they hope their fans might like. If they don't, they don't have to listen, no honor lost. But dismissing it because it's not psy is very stubborn in my opinion. Don't dismiss the artist just because they don't keep making goa or psy over and over again for 8 albums straight.Change in sound is all fine and dandy for the artist but not for the listener. It's a tricky situation.
What new school goa artists may not be evolving but at least it's catering for an audience that has lost what was once was, to a degree.
As a listener I'm not really interested in the genre changing directions artists take and that's that. If an artists makes something I thoroughly enjoy and then switches to something completely different on the next album, there's no way I won't be disappointed. Hence negativity. Sure it may seem selfish but that's just how it is. You lose something you don't want to lose.
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Not all psy artists want to keep producing it. Their tastes either evolve or change completely. Some may be motivated by money, but most of the time artists don't want their sound to stagnate; rather, introduce new sounds and ideas that don't always involve psy.
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There's nothing wrong with bad remixes every once and a while. How fucking boring would music be if every single track just brought the pain every time? I would honestly get tired of psytrance if every track was a total killer. I think the best thing about psytrance (and most genres, while we're at it) is that most of it is garbage and only some of it is great. So Toxic liked that Britney Spears song and wanted to remix it, I don't think that just because he didn't make it some epic track with fresh ideas and stomping basslines means that he should be burned at the stake and everybody who likes it is an idiot.
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Who says that all psytrance needs to take itself seriously? I mean, come on, I know that it's not very good, but some of you all are acting personally offended that these artists remixed tracks that they like, even if they didn't execute it well. There can be good psy, and there can be shit psy, the same with every genre in music. I would honestly find it quite unusual if no artists ever remixed a popular radio song.
Edit: I also doubt that they're all doing it to make money. Sure, it might be great for some weeaboos at a club to hear their favorite Katy Perry track remixed and dropped, but what if the artist themselves made the track because they actually liked it? That seems like a very basic concept, and it shocks me that some of you all are overlooking it.
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Hey, so can anyone else think of some more popular radio tracks remixed by psy artists? I don't care if it sucks, I'm just highly curious as to how much stuff has actually been remixed.
I know Save The Robot has done some remixes of War and Coldplay (Bizarre Contact also remixed a Coldplay track), SOM did a remix EP of Fatboy Slim and Prodigy, CPU did a remix of a Gorillaz track, and Copyright did something to Scatmans World. Katy Perry has been remixed a few times already.
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I spent a great deal of time planning this mix, and I'm really happy with the way it turned out. This set means a lot to me as a computer engineer and EDM enthusiast, because I feel like this reflects who I am individually. I named the mix after the computer science concept, which I studied extensively in a course on Networking principles. Logic design has always been fascinating to me, as the mix cover is a MMU (Memory Management Unit) and the signature represents part of an actual diagram in a project I completed for Microcomputer design (interfacing a 68000 with an interrupt driven Centronics parallel printer port circuit).
Flow Control covers a healthy territory of music, starting with a slow, minimal approach, and evolving into a very maximal sound as the mix progresses. Toward the end I start layering on some very thick, heavy basslines. This mix has all kinds of flavors that you guys might like. It has intelligent sound structures and a wide range of ideas. This one is my longest mix yet, so strap yourselves in and please enjoy!
Fennesz - Glass Ceiling [Touch]
Vaeya - Radulimlak [Digital Diamonds]
Lightsphere - Wavelines [Yellow Sunshine Explosion]
Soliquid - Minimal Symphony [baroque]
Circuit Bent - Ambiently Speaking [Zenon]
Wal - Tell More [Glitchy Tonic]
Minimal Criminal - Tobor [Cosmic Conspiracy]
Sensient - Tech Message [Zenon]
Tristan - Bombscare (Perfect Stranger Remix) [sonica]
Excizen - Suffocate [Ektoplazm]
Access To Arasaka - *strtok() [Tympanik Audio]
Pick - Minimum Orchestra [Glitchy Tonic]
Kained and Able - Tech 4 [uroboros]
Hypogeo - Coma [uroboros]
Synthetic Forest - Ogcocephalioidei [scared Evil]
Iliuchina - Into The Trip [GDL]
Principles of Flight vs. Phonic Request - No Sense [Organik]
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Looks good. Love Solid Mercury, Vurt, and Death Wish. Need to check out the rest.
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There's nothing wrong with homo sapiens. I just think homo goasapiens is a very strange title.? He's just referring to homo sapiens? Nothing wrong there right?
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I'm just going to let you know that your title for this set is incredibly unflattering.
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Nice track selection. Got some real dark ones here. Can I get a tracklist?
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I didn't really mean that they sounded the same, I meant that the elements of each track had similarities, causing the flow to really work. It is indeed very groovy, and the bassline goes through lots of changes in your set. The tracks are indeed unique, but the sound is crafted by a lot of similar artists, so the style isn't glaringly different across many of the tracks. I think that's a good thing, and I admire it. That's all I was trying to get at.I understand you think the tracks are pretty similar, but they do have their own energy and sounds, listen for instance to the basslines, they all have their distinct sounds. So I have to disagree on the fact they sound similar, though it is the same 'style'. A lot of the generic fullon, wether melodic or dark, sounds similar to me. For me, this is the perfect dancefloor music, psychedelic!!, groovy and trippy enough without the usual boring build ups, cheesy melodies or the dark ferocious basslines.
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I listened to this, and really enjoyed it. After a certain amount of time, the tracks were beginning to drag on a bit, but the flow and style you have chosen allows for a set that is quite longer than most full-on sets I am used to. I think the flow was successful because of the artists you have chosen, they are all very similar to each other and their styles are practically identical. The most significant aspect of this mix was the bassline, how it managed to roll along and bounce with the music without losing energy. I liked most of the tracks, and your mixing was quite good, I didn't even notice several of the transitions (likely because the tracks were all so similar). Overall a very solidly crafted full-on set, probably one of the coolest ones I've heard in a while.
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Not bad, but I felt slightly disappointed after listening. The tracks were good and the mixing and flow were both solid but I felt like you never really progressed as far as I would have liked. The energy was sorta flatlined for the entire set, and you never really escalated to a really awesome point. The Drums of Africa track definitely put things in motion a little more, but you never brought the energy past what that track offered, which sorta bummed me out. In fact, the energy dropped instead of rose. It was a good mix, but I felt like you could have done more to bring the set around full circle by the end. Thanks for the music anyways.
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Sign me up for this one.
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I'm not really sure, but when I heard it, it was totally captivating. I thought it would be a really great way to end a set on a positive note. Banging, interesting, and above all, unique. Goa needs to show more of that these days.What's the thing with Citrus Circus? I've seen it in three different mixes this week. (One of them mine. )
One possible explanation is that it's a tight track, but worldwide conspiracies are more exciting.
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First, I would like to apologize for having an enormous mix cover and raping your internet browsers. Second, I'd like to point out that I've always had a love/hate relationship with Goa. I never really found it as interesting as psytrance, maybe because at the time I was looking for stuff that was bigger and stronger than what Goa offered. Goa happens to fall into the same trap that most genres fall into (including psytrance), with a tendency to lack variety and truly interesting soundscapes. However, I found while researching the tracks for this mix that, when done properly, Goa can be the fucking business.
For this mix, I decided to choose tracks primarily from the golden age of Goa, with 3 newer tracks at the end. For most goa-heads, some of these tracks should be pretty obvious, but hopefully refreshing. The first track was approved and freely released on psynews.org as a rare white label vinyl that was unreleased and untitled, tentatively titled "Glow". Magadansky once warned me that Goa can be quite challenging to mix, and he was right. Some of these tracks can be rather slippery!
Dimension 5 - Untitled ("Glow") [unreleased: Interstellar Records 1998]
Mickey Finn - Kazzazza [Tsunami Productions 1998]
Man With No Name - Teleport [Dragonfly Records 2000]
Chi-Ad - X-Isle [Why Not Records 2000]
Pleiadians - Taygeta [Dragonfly Records 1997]
MFG - Why? [Phonokol 1998]
Color Box - Maroon [Hypnotic 1997]
Astral Projection - People Can Fly [Phonokol 1996]
Psychopod - Universal Mind [TIP Records 1997]
Cosmosis - Spores from Space [Transient 1998]
Orion - Funkadelic [symbiosis 1997]
Alienapia - Secret Symbols [space Baby Records 2008]
Rama - Illumination [sita Records 2009]
Merr0w - Citrus Circus [suntrip Records 2010]
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Ziptnf - Time Cycle (1:35:27) ~256kbps 174.7MB
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Yes, the LunaCell album is pretty good. There has already been a thread about this, here:
http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?/topic/58069-psydubpsysteppsybreaks/
Here is my mix inspired by the tracks recommended:
http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?/topic/58422-ziptnf-broken-signal-psystepdubby-psybreaks/
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I'm completely stunned that nobody has mentioned Natural Born Killers. One of the most interesting, trippy as fuck movies of all time.
And Scanners is one of the best movies ever to watch on acid.
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Download list @ TranceAddict.com
Figured I'd share this with psynews, in case anyone wants to go back to when trance was actually good. Enjoy!
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In. Give me a few days to listen, though.
Btw, I assume you are the same Deimos that produced this EP?
http://www.ektoplazm.com/2010/deimos-ruptured
That shit is class, man, I put "Chest Pain" on my latest mix. You should give it a spin
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I voted for Insejn. Good luck, everybody!
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Drama, drama, drama. People fight with each other, which in turn can provide a bad reputation for the board. I feel like the OT board should be opened up again, but under probation. If any user posts anything negative, hateful, racist, or anything that would be frowned upon by Mars, they are immediately suspended. Repeat offenders should be permabanned. If enough people act up, close it forever.ok so im about to ask what is probably a stupid question....
what exactly is the problem with having an off topic section? why are people worried about it?
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I couldn't wait till after my final exams to make this. Psychedelic Drum and Bass is a very rare "genre", as most psybreaks aren't quite aggressive enough to be classified DnB. Each one of these tracks are very unique, and as a result, different speeds. The tracks didn't lend themselves to much blending, so for the mixing I tried to make the energy transfer as unobtrusive as possible. You will explore a variety of psychedelic drum'n'bass interpretations, pushing the boundaries of this sound towards the end. I hope you all enjoy, this took a while to put together.
Vector Burn - Orchid (Mav Remix)
Deimos - Chest Pain
Violet Vision - Inside the Glass Shell
Silexz - Pandemonium
Scorb - P2P
Phace - Vintage
Principles of Flight - A Colorful End
Cybernetika - Hydroponics
Cybernetika - Vaporized
Tone Deaf Junkies - Noxious
Shift - U Can't Say
sLime - The mould
Psilodump - The Kung Fu Fish Eats The Buns
The Flashbulb - Lawn Wake IV (Black)
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I find it very interesting that you don't think it's very good. It's quite rare to see an act like that, you don't like the music at all? I think it takes a lot of talent. The Juno Reactor thing was pretty cool too, but the band I posted seems to be making all their music on the spot, no turntables or mixers involved. Just a synthesizer and live instruments.I don't think it's bad, but good? I prefer Juno Reaktor. Much more psychedelic it is.
Why do psy artists become less "psy" over time?
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