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  1. To say that it's devil worshipping because someone names their track "hell raver" is exaggreating a bit.

     

    When i got in to this music some 15 yrs ago there was a lot of really dark music, and I always been in to the darker and heavier side of the scene.

    Sure there is a lot of the current wave of dark music that is too formularic in style and track names, but if you think thats scene always been about happy smiley party music you have IMO missed what the music is about and it's roots.

    Much EBM that was played in Goa in the 80's make many of the "dark" artists today seem like Britney in comparasion.

     

    I remember parties in Goa in the beginning of the 90's with a war theme in the decoration and really dark night music.

    The people making the party or DJ'ing was hardly devil worshippers.

    It was about making people confront the dark and aggressive side of themself as a cleansing process, and the dark music make a nice contrast with the sunny happy morning music.

    If people got aggressions and fears it's no use playing fluffy music to try to make them forget about it if you want them to become more in harmony.

    Let them dig down into and confront their dark side and work it out on a healthy dose of psychedelics on the dancefloor.

    It does work, and I have seen it change many people for the better.

     

    I personally don't worship the devil, but there is connections to the devil and hindu gods which I do worship like Shiva and Kali.

    To worship a force that represents dark and "evil" forces does not mean that you like to see a more evil world.

    It's about understanding the dark forces in creation and try to see what function they fill so you can understand a lot more of reality as being positive, and as a result become a more happy and content person yourself.

     

    And if you look into the values of a lot of the producers and labels behind the dark music you will find that they are actually peace loving and quite concerned with other peoples wellbeing.

    Take devilsmind records who is a non-profit label giving away any profit they make to charity.

    Or take a pioneer for dark electronic psychedelic music like skinny puppy.

    Sure they had a infamous live show throwing blood at the audience and sound like they wish everyone suffer and die.

    But if you study their message and lyrics you notice that they are growling about how bad vivisection or chemical warfare is.

     

    And look into the roots of the hippy movement.  The acid test and the imagery used by bands like grateful dead and pink floyd for example is not just fluffy flowers and smiley rainbows for sure.

     

    I must say EP that you obviously don't understand the scene, it's roots or the people involved in it.

    If you think it should be about fluffy progg, fine, you can have your opinion. But the scene is full of hippes taking psychedelics, and you seem to have zero understanding for both hippes and psychedelics.

    So if you don't like the music, the people or what they stand for I really wonder why you hang out in this forum and seem so concered about the state of the scene.

    Just do your thing and let other people do theirs.

     

    I might think progressive is crap music for people who is too inhibited to dance properly or take too much coke and E to escape rather than confront reality, but I don't open a thread complaining about it.

    Ok, if some darkpsy artist actually summon the evil forces against you, by all means come in hear and tell how evil they are.

    Otherwise....just live and let live and don't listen to dark trance or full-on if you don't like it.

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    sorry spindrift, but you passed a bit over the line here...

     

    your post was very good, and then indeed you started offending EP unnecessarily.. and just because you think he offended you at some point doesnt mean its ok for you to offend it, does it? one mistake doesnt justify the other...

     

    and this ´crap music for people who is too inhibited to dance properly, coke E blabla´ was really bullshit.. I dont think you are really closed into that opinion but im pretty sure it does have some validity in your mind... Now let me tell you something, I dont take ecstasy, I never snorted cocaine in my life and never will.. I like prog because of the details, because each sound is so important, as opposed to messy dark or full on tracks that have lots of sounds so each one doesnt seem so important imo... thats my taste, and you should respect it, just like I respect yours.. and this shit about dancing? man, thats really stupid... I was going to argue on how dumb that is but I wont, because its just too... dumb haha...

     

    you dissapointed me man.. thought you were a bit more open minded than name-calling and justifying through someone else´s acts, and then having such a closed minded opinion about some style of music... too bad you didnt keep with that first part of your post

  2. " all I really want is you"

     

    you know those parties that have ´hymns´, some tracks that play over and over?

     

    so the last festival I went to, in february, this track was like THE hymn, together with Alter Ego - Rocker (and the thousand remixes of it hehe)

  3. its all here man.. Frank Beckers is THE man lately.. The original is more continuous, more tech house like, while in the remix we get a more electro dirty feeling.. I really like both

     

    This track played everywhere this year

     

    Only nice names here.. beckers, klein and juergens.. its all good :)

  4. it inspires awe, alright...

     

    awe, wowification, Oh My ´God´ing and ´What The Fuck´ification :lol:

     

     

    tracks 3, 6 and 8 are like: wow man, will I ever like any other music?

     

    :D

     

    go go antix.. in these more ´house´ days for me, this one ´keeps me in the scene´..

     

    one of the few cds that when I heard I could say ´fantastic!!´ (together with Ott and Kaya Project.. and a few others I dont remember)

  5. :blink:  :blink: Do any of you imagine a festival of 11 days???

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    WELL...... It Will Happen!!!!

    Alot of good surprises will happen, the sprit will be fantastic!!

    I will be in another dimension for 11 days!!! check the line up!!!!

    Chillout line up is something ahead of our time

    were goessssssssss

     

    :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

     

      Updown Crew Proudly Presents

    Festival Raiz - Portugal - !!11 DAYS!!  29/07--------08/08 – Oliveira de Frades

     

    Live acts

     

    220 V (Proton Records)

    Alternative Control (Proton Records)

    Altom (Neurobiotic Records)

    Bamboo Forest (MP Records)

    Bizarre Contact (Com.pact)

    Black & white (Hommega Records)

    Brethren (Nexus media / Time code records)

    Cyber Cartel (Agitato Records)

    CPU (3d Vision Records)

    Chakra (Hommega Records)

    Domestic (Hommega Records)

    Dynamo (Arcadia Music Japan)

    Ecliptic (Ecliptic/Maia Records)

    Inneraction (3d Vision Records / Procyon Records)

    Intelabeam (Spun Records)

    Khopat (Kagdila Records / Spectral Records)

    Mechanix (Mechanik Rec)

    Mekkanikka (3d Vision/Spirit Zone)

    Menog (Spectral Records/Timecode)

    Miracle (Proton Records)

    Neuromotor (Mechanik Rec)

    Nick Panick (Neurobiotic Records)

    Perplex (Phonokol Records)

    Phanatic (Quark Agency)

    Phyx (Timecode Records)

    Polaris (Neurobiotic Records)

    Psy Craft (Hommega Records)

    Psy Sex (Hommega Records)

    Psytekk (Usta Records / Quark Agency)

    Puzzle (3d Vision)

    Quantum Leap (Kagdila Records / Quarck Agency)

    Sesto sento (Com.Pact)

    Slum (Phi/Elf Musc)

    Shakri (BuddhaMantra / Psylosophy)

    Sirius Isness (Mind Control)

    Space monkey (Agitato Records)

    Spectrum (Phonokol Records)

    Sub6 (Hommega Records)

    Tactical Strike (Proton Records)

    Tickets (Timecode Records / Nexus Media)

    Tikal (Neurobiotic Records)

    Ultravoice (Com.Pact Records)

    Vibra (Neurobiotic Records)

    X-noise (Hommega Records)

    Zero sequence (Quest4goa)

    Dj set

    Agni Spark (Updown / Kagdila Records) PT

    Aleph (Timecode Records) S.AF

    Alex vs Tomas (Neurobiotic Records) FR

    Alon Algarsi vs Nir Sidon (Hommega Records) ISR

    Arno (Neurobiotic Records) FR

    Barak Argaman vs Nadav Bonen (Hommega Records) ISR

    Bishop (Proton Records) BR

    Bizarre Contact (Com.pact) ISR

    Danger (Procyon Records) HUN

    Edoardo (Neurobiotic Records) ITA

    Goblin vs Yoni Oshrat (Hommega Records) ISR

    Golan Aharoni vs Ohad Aharoni (Hommega Records) ISR

    Hanan Bitton (Usta Records) ISR

    Ido Ophir (Hommega Records) ISR

    Juggler (Chaishop.Com/Quarck Agency) PT

    Junya a.k.a Eskimo (Phantasm Records) UK

    Kefir Shlomovitz (Agitato Records) ISR

    Kfir Lankry (Phanatik/Quark Agency) ISR

    Kristian (Phantasm Records) UK

    Loko (Odd Records) PT

    Max vs Davina (Mind control) FR

    Moonskalin (Updown) PT

    Nick (Neurobiotic Records) ISR

    Nikka (3d vision/Spirit zone) SWZ

    Perplex (Phonokol Records) ISR

    PsyTekk (Usta Records/Quark Agency) ISR

    Psy Wiz (Updown) PT

    R2 (Trancelucent ) BR

    Rami Shapira (Hommega Records) ISR

    Rastko Vs Toca (Proton Records) SERB

    Roy vs Nico (3d Vision Records /Procyon Records)ISR

    Ruod-rik (Mahogany Records/MP Records) PT

    Rush (Odd Records) PT

    Samuel Wallerstien vs Yaniv Biton (Hommega Records) ISR

    Samy (3d Vision Records) SPA

    Sesto Matan (Proton Records) ISR

    Shay a.k.a Dynamic (Phonokol Records) ISR

    Shakri (BuddhaMantra / Psylosophy) PT

    Stephane (MP Records) FR

    Dudu vs Victor Leti (Proton Records) BR

    Tickets (Timecode Records / Nexus Media) S.AF

    Ultravoice (Com.Pact) ISR

    Vic Shefi (Agitato Records) ISR

    Zefer ( Neutronyx Records) SPN

    Chillout

     

    Live acts:

     

    - Ambiêns Indages (chilloutzone.org) - Pt

    - Bluetech (Aleph Zero) - Can - [live & dj set]

    - Chilled C'quence (Quest4goa/Amboworld) - Pt

    - Indepth (Sonic Dragon Rec) - Isr - [live & dj set]

    - Ishq (Aleph Zero) - UK - [live & dj set]

    - J.Viewz (Deeplay Music) - Isr - [live & dj set]

    - Kukan Dub Lagan (Candyflip Rec) - Isr - [live & dj set]

    - Lunar Sound (Ecliptic/Maia Rec) - Mex

    - Moon (Rhythms of Peace/Jbilettes prod) - Mar

    - Omiq Project (En Sof) - Pt

    - Psyra (PsyTropic Rec) - Ger [live & dj set]

    - Red Seal (Flow Rec/On U Sound) - UK

    - Shakri (BuddhaMantra/Psylosophy) - Pt - [live & dj set]

    - Shulman (Aleph Zero) - Isr

    - SmileyPixie (Goa Gadar) - Pt - [live & dj set]

    - Tachyon (Ayuaska Rec) - Pt

    - Tjak - Pt

    - X_rc (Spectral Rec) - Pt

    - Yonilinga (Spectral Rec) - Pt - [live & dj set]

    Dj Sets

     

    International Dj sets

     

    Beka (Turbo Trance Rec) - Aus

    Grey Matter - Isr

    Justin Chaos - (Cosmictrance/Rasta’s In Dub) - Arg

    KakoOlalaJwal - Fr

    Leon (Psy DMT) - Uk

    Nova (Ultimae Rec) - Uk

    Nun (Hadra) - Fr

    Ro-Ro (Rasta’s In Dub) - Spa

    Schatsi vs Danny Intelabeam (HADSHOT/Spun Rec) - Isr

    Shahar (Aleph Zero) - Isr

    Tajmahal (Ultimae Rec/Amboworld) - Fr

    Toxic In Dub (Cosmictrance) - Spa

    National Groups:

     

    chilloutzone.org dj’s team:

    dj high - Pt

    elektra - Pt

    Henrik - Pt

    Las’Hark - Pt

    En Sof dj’s team:

    Cocoon – Pt

    Gordon Shumway - Pt

    Ketelf - Pt

    Liquid Shape - Pt

    Malek - Pt

    Plurgrim - Pt

    naOmh - Pt

    Sérgio - Pt

    Souljackers - Pt

    Vaga - Pt

    Quest4goa dj’s team:

    Celtic_Ian - Pt

    Gabi - Pt

    X_tigma - Pt

    More Portuguese Dj´s

    Alam (Tachyon/Ayuaska Rec) - Pt

    Architect (Tachyon/Ayuaska Rec) - Pt

    Flight Sound Designers (Looping4center/PLUR Prod) - Pt

    Floating Machine (Looping4center/PLUR Prod) -Pt

    Gil'on'chill (Updown) - Pt

    Ivä (Tachyon/Ayuaska Rec) - Pt

    Juggler (Chaishop.com) - Pt

    Kapi - Pt

    LAB - Pt

    Looping4center (PLUR Prod) - Pt

    M&Ms (Namaskar Prod) - Pt

    Mogg Fanatik (Planet Ben Rec/Anaxadora Org) - Pt

    Nonsense (Tachyon/Ayuaska Rec) - Pt

    Shänti (Ketuh Rec) - Pt

    Tamíris (Spectral Rec) - Pt

    Youth Culture Soundsystem - Pt

    All the information about the artist is or will be on the website in a very short time.

    Entry fee

     

    16 April --------- 30 April ------> 45€

    01 May --------- 31 May -------> 50€

    01 June --------- 30 June -------> 55€

    01 July ---------- 25 July ---------> 60€

    At the gate -----------------------> 70€

    infra-structures:

     

    -Camping

    -Wc´s and showers

    -Bars

    -Main Floor

    -Commerce

    -Open air cinema

    -Space for children

    -Medical area

    -Parking

    -Workshops

    info line: +351912278022

    location and updates at:

     

    www.designer.updown-crew.com/festival.html

    www.updown-crew.com

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    chill out seems very very nice :)... but this dancefloor is too much KILLAAAAA, and not even one prog, from what I see...

     

    too bad... hope someday this fullon-only party attitude will change..

     

    anyway, have a good party

  6. My opinion is exactly the opposite: I think the whole album gets better every time you listen to it! Actually, most Iboga albums have this quality, I think.

     

     

     

    I was of your opinion after the first time I heard the album but it has grown a lot on me since then. Keep in mind that this was made by the same ppl who made "Lull". If they wanted to make a cd with a similar sounds or a "Lull pt2" it probably wouldn't have taken them 2 years but only 6 weeks.

    Unfortunately for the Storm-bros,  their debut was so highly acclaimed, that ppl wànt something in that same style. This has been the case in the past with SBK, Haldolium & many others... I think it is a characteristic of truely innovative artists NOT to give in to that & keep evolving & developping new styles of music. You can call this "selling out" but in fact it would only be selling out if they would release the same cd over & over again instead of trying to explore new sounds. 

     

    So: very addictive cd, if you ask me :P just like Frogacult (another Iboga gem)

     

    At least one band (& label) you can trust not to be relaesing any 80s-gone-psy-tracks in the future :D !

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    well said :)

  7. Huge production levels, emphasis on details and a story told does not at all make for an interesting listen.

    Antix has all of these but they also have musical creativity and originality.

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    indeed, I didnt mean thats all there was to antix... but just some of the things that show it's not something 'poor'

  8. what you mean this isn't a poor release or that EP doesn't think he is into progressive?  B)

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    that its definitely not a poor release...

     

    it may not be his taste, but to call it a ´poor release´ is pretty dumb.. the production levels are huge, there´s a lot of emphasis on the details, the ´story´ that the track tells are always excellent, you can hear its all very well done... but as I said, it may not be someone´s taste, though its not something you should call ´poor´ or ´mediocre´

  9. Ott - Blumenkraft

    Abakus - That Much Closer to The Sun

     

    Antix - Lull

    Antix - twin coast discovery (specially this one! fking great.. track 3, 6 and 8, omfukingg)

    phony orphants - symphony

     

     

    most of bob marley cds

     

     

    hmmm what else? Im sure I forgot some non-trance ones and some chill ones too)

  10. On a sidenote, HOW COULD YOU PEOPLE NOT LIKE SECOND SHPONGLE ALBUM? It was a funking masterpiece! One of the few releases that really have "soul".

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    I pretty much think it sucks.. sorry... well ok not all the tracks sucks, but there are some ´vibes´ in some parts that just ruin it totally for me... not a masterpiece imo..

     

    but yeah, doesnt matter its all taste anyway..

     

     

    entheogenic is also not so amazing imo.. pretty good (I only listened to the second album), but nothing that makes me get goosebumps..

  11. That is why because most of them are old school ambient songs from 95-98 that you were not into cause you are mostly into new stuff...Go and dig, they are very trippy and psychedelic...;)

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    true.. never really tried finding old school ambient... my oldest ambient cd must be from 2000 I think...

     

    Ill check some of those out and tell you what I think :)

  12. A jazzy and tanggy one :

     

    Buddy Rich - The beat Goes On

    St. Germain - So Flute

    Donald Byrd - Samba Yantra

    Peace Orchestra - Shining (Truby Trio Rmx)

    Gotan Project - Epoca

    Astor Piazzola - The Tango

    Keith Jarret - Trieste

    Tosca - Chocolate Elvis

    Tosca Tango Orchestra - El Cholulo (Waking Life Soundtrack)

     

    A classical one :

     

    Dvorak - New World Symphony , Mvt. 4

    Bach - Air

    Bach - Piano concert n.9

    Beethoven - 5th Symphony

    Beethoven - 9th Symphony

    Beethoven - Flight of the BumbleBee

    Beethoven - Fur Elise

    Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata

    Chopin - Nocturne

    George Winston - Pachelbel Canon

    George Winston - Forest

    John Williams - Duel of the Fates (Star wars soundtrack)

    Mendelssohn - Wedding March (This one will be playing in my wedding)  :)

    Tchainkovsky - Romeo and Julliette

    Wagner - Ride of the Valkyries

    Mozart - don´t really remember the one i like the most ....

     

    It will be continued .....

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    go away, you´re too intellectual for us

     

    hahah no but really, the first one seems very nice, keith jaret, gotan project, tosca..... good taste :)

     

    and classical, im sure those are very nice choices, but I know bird-shit of classical music.. will give it another chance sometime :)

  13. I was just about to post my own ambient/downtempo set too...;) 

     

    Azukx - Earth Chakra

    Pleiadians - Celeano

    BOTFB - Marsmellow

    Total Eclipse - 51 Pegasus

    Xploring Inner Space - Daydream

    Blue Planet Corporation - Arcana

    Man With No Name - Azymuth

    Dimension 5 - Flow

    Tarsis - Tantric

    Menis - Sketch

    Cosmosis - Afterglow

    Nomads Of Dub - Spirals

    Subkha - Equinox

    Shpongle - Vapour Rumours

    Younger Brother - Crumblenaut

    Digital Mystery Tour - The Blooming

    Hallucinogen - Herb Garden

    Ott - Cley Hill

    Prometheus - Robot-O-Chan

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    I tell you, I listen to a looooot of ambient stuff.. and I dont know most of those there :)

     

    (just reminded me of many tracks I could have put in my set, like ott hehe)

  14. as for the chill, a lot of them have been said.. I specially like the kaya project ones dp mentioned..

     

    also Shulman - The Unexpected visitor

     

    and there are some from adam shaikh too, I will check out the names for you... and from angel tears too..

     

     

    and one more for more upbeat sort of stuff (hard to define.. house maybe?)

     

    chab - monster

  15. a small downtempo/dub/lounge/chill double set.. a bit more day-oriented

     

    I didnt check if the flow would be perfect.. but anyway, I imagined something like:

     

    acoustic guitars to set the mood.. then go up in beautiful melodic chill, arriving at more jazzy loungychill with some vocals, finally stepping down to more instrumental and mid eastern stuff ...

     

     

    kaya project - resolve

    prometheus - sweet tooth

    sandspider - small time hassles

    nada - earthgarden

    shakatura - lucid dreaming

    zero one - transformation

    Ticon - The first moment

    J.Viewz - Room for Me

    Gabriel le mar - dreamland

    Sounds from the Ground - move on

    pitch black - flex

    vibrasphere - manzanilla

    Son kite - on air (midival punditz remix)

    kaya project - stone turns black

    entheogenic - mindless

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