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Currently listening to: Stephen King's IT, and an Elon Musk biography. Both are engrossingly good.

Oh cool exactly what I was looking for, when I embedded a link to a track on soundcloud it made a huge preview link Gonna retry see what I did wrong.

Thanks gonna listen and re-educate myself lol I'm having quite a hard time hearing the difference between some of the newer iterations of these styles, it used to be easy. To make things a bit more confusing, there seems to be a lot of techno influences thrown in for good measure as well across the board. I was at a forest party yesterday, and I had problems hearing what was what, I mean besides the most obnoxious in-your-face full-on stuff, with the shuffle and changed time signature/triplets sections. Those were exactly like the Future Ducks of London meme. And atleast here in Sweden, the parties overall have more varied lineups than before, the standard parties here now have psy/full-on and techno at the same venue. So I can see why the cross-pollination occurs. There used to be, like psy/fullon/progg and sometimes goa. Those were like the only kids that played together. At yesterdays party they even played something called "future-house" which to my ears sounded kinda hillarious, reminded me of euro-dance, and felt a bit out of context. So this left me wondering, which parties in Sweden plays goa nowadays? I didn't hear any of that at yesterdays event.

That was actually a super good idea, anyone knows why it wasn't implemented?

No probs, btw been trying out Spire now, not bad eh Reading the manual now, and I guess the filter types named "Red" in the scorpio filter mode are the Nord Lead based ones? Being used to the Virus TI2 interface, it feels right at home with the structure/layout of the synth. By messing around some, I think one aspect it don't really manages perhaps to capture fully from the Virus, are the pads. But I've just scratched the surface so far, as far as arps, leads and basses go, and to some extent FM-bell type sounds, it's in the Virus ballpark for sure. "These are the filter modes and their respective types: Perfecto a unique algorithm that combines the best characteristics of analog anddigital filter types. Great for a broad spectrum of sounds. Modes: LP4, BP4, HP4, Peak Acido type does not repeat at 100%, but good for simulating TB-303 sounds and not only. Modes: LP1, LP2, LP3, LP4 Infecto type does not repeat at 100%, but simulates the filter sound of a Virus TI synthesizer. Modes: LP2, BP2, HP2, Notch Scorpio another unique algorithm by our team that combines the best characteristics of analog and digital filter types. Great for a broad spectrum of sounds. Modes: RedLP2, RedLP4, BlackLP2, BlackLP4, BlackHP, BlackBP Combo filter consists of a series of regularly spaced spikes, giving the appearance of a comb. Modes: Mono +, Mono -, Stereo +, Stereo -"

Sounds crisp, the bass pattern reminds me of Tim Schuldt's "Talking Souls - Karma 209"

Some other things to consider when deciding which of these commonly used scales one intends to use for goa: AHAVA RABBA SCALE ON THE PIANO "The Ahava Rabba scale belongs to the group of Jewish scales because of the geographical location where it was born and its typical sound. If you are looking forward to improvise Jewish music, then the Ahava Rabba scale can be an excellent choice. The Ahava Rabba scale can be really useful if you are looking foward to create cheerful music as it belongs to the group of Major scales. It is mainly used in ethnic music or modal jazz improvisation." PHRYGIAN SCALE ON THE PIANO "The Phrygian scale can be used to compose melancholic ethnic music. You may also use it for modal jazz improvisation and since it belongs to the group of Minor scales it can be also useful for also composing scary and romantic music." Taking this into consideration can explain the airy/majestic feel of the Ahava Rava scale, since it's a major scale. It can sound really epic when throwing in some chords.

I actually don't know which of the old greek modes it corresponds too, as I just transposed the standard scale communly used in Israeli old school goa. (Astral Projection, MFG, Mystica etc) That was usually played in the key of C, D och or E, depending on the bpm and general mood they wanted to achieve. To simplify, I transposed it from C to A, in the Key of A it sounds very particular because of the two sharp keys that are close in the scale, A# and C#. And since A is rather high to me atleast it sounds airy and elevated. And I think it sounds good for lower bpm like in this case 138bpm *edit* I now analyzed the scale by going through all the known scales/modes and the exotic scales on https://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/ And it turns out the scale is indeed jewish in origin, hence perhaps why it was used so much in Israeli goa. It's called " A Jewish (Ahaba Rabba) Scale intervals: 1,b2,3,4,5,b6,b7 half-steps: 1-3-1-2-1-2-2 notes: A,Bb,C#,D,E,F,G" So who knows when and where this scale originated, it might have been used in some old temple sometime The Phrygian scale I've never used for goa, that is Pleiadian/Etnica/Filteria stuff The scale above which I'm using to me sounds way more eastern/oriental/greek/turkish/arabic/egyptian/levant. Pure belly dance stuff. The phrygian scale to me has a more enigmatic feel to it, which might explain why it fits so well with cosmic themes. I don't think it's particularly good for hooks, but then again that could just be my ears that are atuned/used to this scale I've been using for 20 years or so. Here it is in the key of C: C Jewish (Ahaba Rabba) Scale intervals: 1,b2,3,4,5,b6,b7 half-steps: 1-3-1-2-1-2-2 notes: C,Db,E,F,G,Ab,Bb Compared to the Phrygian scale in the key of C: C Phrygian Scale intervals: 1,b2,b3,4,5,b6,b7 half-steps: 1-2-2-2-1-2-2 notes: C,Db,Eb,F,G,Ab,Bb It's just one note that is different between them, so they are similar, but give a very different feel.

Could you make a little audio example? for us that don't have Serum. Curious to hear how it sounds. Did you make it with a Juno 106 Sub Osc wavetable or purely with Serum's own oscillators?

btw you who seem to be in the know about modern psy, can you recommend anything that is dark and melodic? I wanna explore if there might be some new good stuff out there.

Aiit sounds fair enough, I'm not invested in the full on/psy/minimal/prog scene, so I have no clue really. Loud's music is quite far from what I listen to, I can still recognize that he knows what he is doing with regards to the sound quality of things. But yeah my two cents I'm a goa-head. The track you posted doesn't really change much in that regard for me, I found it rather boring, melodically and drive-wise. I miss some lush pads and euphoric melodies which can elevate my mood. I don't like when the tracks take too many turns and lose momentum by introducing talking samples and breaks. I just want a non-stop assault of melodies/303 stuff The exception to that for me was perhaps the Psysex-Expression of Rage album and the Infected Mushroom-Classical Mushroom album, on those I think the samples just fit very well, but yeah that was another era. It was a new and fresh approach then. But hey I respect everybody's differing taste, and appreciate to get to hear some new stuff outside of my comfort zone every now and then as well. That's the beauty of the psy/goa scene, there's so many different styles and ways to express yourself. And that's why I personally believe that psy/goa is here to stay, it can't really stagnate when there is so much different style experimentation taking place and fusing of genres/styles.

Yeah, upon inspecting the youtube channel I got a bitter taste lol So they basically made a meme of the same genre they work in? There is playlist there with what sounds like full-on remixes of goa classics. Way to go with the rather unimaginative butchering of a classic tune IMO. I feel like the meme is either a rather well thought out way of generating a lot of views to their channel or something. Or some way of distancing themselves and feeling like their superior to what else generic full-on is out there? The context/idea behind the meme feels a bit weird indeed. Is it like some self-concious attempt att recognizing what the tropes are which they must know by heart now? Or just a way of poking and making fun of their DJ/Producer colleagues within the full-on scene?

Rofl

Survival Kit, good stuff. Damn fine classic psy

Good haul how is the Artha track on 303 syndrome? If you've listened to it yet that is.

lolz mood.

I did some digging, and my memory wasn't wrong Bill Cosmosis was indeed a member here on psynews: https://www.psynews.org/forums/topic/38368-updated-tips-and-trick-section-on-cosmosis-websit/ https://www.psynews.org/forums/profile/2838-bagginz/

It's like they say, laughing is contagious.

Some egyptian themed goa intro, messing around with the D-16 Phoscyon 303 clone through reverbs/delays, with a kick drum, bass, choir pads, flutes, hookpads, "airy white noise sweeps" and some arps, headphone mix so bass is probably too low as usual https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IfrVXDMV5il9NC-1IgHCv0JsnoZjIgzU/view?usp=sharing the 303 pattern is in the "egyptian" scale/mode as well to fit with the rest.

What I'm currently looking for, is how to get better at scrolling? Any tutorials? I need to reach a pro level in scrolling. This thread needs a future, any predictions? Is it going uphill or downhill?

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Yeah, seems like lazy spam, if there is no real discussion, and just dropping a link to ones own youtube and spotify lol. And the unnecessary "hahaha" is spam too (scroll-trolling lol), so I mean this would fit better in the offtopic section IMO.