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Draeke has been logged in on psynews but has chosen not to answer or come with an official statement yet. The silent approach might not be very helpful I think, closing down the bandcamp might be a way to close a channel where people asked a lot of questions? I think all the supporters on bandcamp and here on psynews deserve better. If anything this teaches us the fragile nature of purchasing digital goods, I've experienced similar things when purchasing movies on different platforms that were removed. We basically rent the movies/music for an unspecified time, unless there is a way to download it. Which fortunately is an option in the case on bandcamp. But yeah sucks for those affected who didn't get a notice prior to the removal of the catalogue, so they could've downloaded it all in time.

Dude! Refx Vanguard plugin? That's so epic, for dat old schoool 2004 sound. You're either behind the curve or way ahead on some new retro plugin trend lol Either way, I tried calling your phone number that you have provided here in the thread start, but yeah it was a busy line, I guess all em labels are busy headhunting talent these days. And btw what's up with all the domain names? One site would be enough eh?

Fuckin yes! Hell yeah!! Can't wait.

NHJO entered the scene with a bang in 1999, introducing his signature heavy metal meets goacore sound, delivered with a devil-may-care attitude. Many clones followed, but none managed to truly capture the cosmic electric guitar vibe better than NHJO. Skazi tried, but lacked that unmistakeable final goapsy touch which, NHJO crafted to perfection. Say what you will, but the amount of releases by NHJO, and the fact that none has been able to truly write a review yet, stands as a testiment to the god-like epicness that is abbreviated NHJO. It is simply too difficult to properly express with words how grand this music is. Rumours have been floating around about a coming live gig with electric guitar and saxophone featuring Epic Sax Guy at the Apsara festival. Can you even imagine the climax when this kicks in during the intro of their live set? The crowd going completely loco.

Bump, this album deserves more exposure. 14 years since this album sent shockwaves through dancefloors around the world. Ahead of the curve on so many levels, redefining music as we knew it.

Well it seems there is nothing there, not even a label/info page/graphics/background? Nothing comes up when searching for the label on bandcamp either. Maybe the label folded/closed down? I clicked the link thinking it would be just the music that would have been temporarily removed, until problems were solved. Because last time I checked, it was only the Pleiadians/Crop Circles/Etnica stuff missing. If my memory serves me correctly that is. I remember vaguely that a compilation I'm interested in was still there, no audio previews tho. The compilation featuring Ra. Perhaps on some other bandcamp/sublabel.

The music to this teaser/trailer for the upcoming Chucky/Childs Play TV-Series is sooo good the series itself will probably suck, but hopefully it's watchable, and atleast somewhat funny.

Solved!

Nevermind, found it

Cool thanks a lot! That explains a lot of what I've been wondering about, I've never used DAT technology so I had no clue about how it worked in the studio environment, only knew that the DJ's used to play those. So basically the Atari's were nothing more than MIDI-sequencers? With a computer screen and a mouse that is? I always assumed they were used somehow in the recording process, as we do today with logic/cubase etc. So everything was recorded to DAT? Not just the full mix so to say? The separate channels as well? Or was there no such thing as separate channels recorded? And everything was just summed from the mixing desk directly to the DAT, and then sent to mastering? *edit* read through your answer a bit quickly, so multi tracking to tape was a thing even in the 90's goa? I've no experience with tapes of that sort either. Only that they showed us some ancient tech like that on the audio engineering course (big reel-to-reel audio tape recorders). Mostly like a curiousity of how things used to be in the studios.

Well put, I think every style has it place as long as its well done too. I think a more minimalistic approach with not much melodies fit well with the dystopic/futuristic/cyberpunkish themes for example. Scaled back psy-trance can sound very futuristic and interesting when the sounds are well sculpted, and the atmosphere is palpable. And I believe that is part of what makes the rather monotone techno (in comparison to goa etc) feel so cold/futuristic at times. We've had all kinds of cross-polinated experiments by now within the psy-genre, and there sure is more to come. I look forwards to what the future brings in terms of new soundscapes. Minimalistic atmospheres works well with movie soundtracks of course, and I think it can lend a cinematic feel to psy/techno as well. I also belive a minimal/scaled back approach can work extremely well with melodic content/harmonies as well. There is ample space for all kinds of interpretations within every genre.

One thing I've been thinkig about lately with regards to the production methods/limitations of the 90's goa trance. Was there a limit that most people had to how many channels their tracks usually had? Like a physical limitation due to their atari based DAW's? Or like by how many channels their mixing desks had, or the DAT recorders or something? And did people back then for example "daisy-chain" two mixing desks sometimes to get above 32 channels for example? I personally think 32 channels is more than enough and a good limit even when working in todays DAW's. But I know for sure others might think otherwise. Anyone who knows how many channels the tracks on the Dancing Galaxy and Another World albums had? I'm guessing that Hallucinogen's Twisted album had 32 channels max? The Etnica/Pleiadians/Crop Circles albums interest me too in that regard, as they sound very maxed out/full in the mix

It's so hot that the servers are about to self-destruct. That hot meter is like a tesla cars built in oven telling you the pizza is done. Well fried by Elon Musk's flamethrower. https://www.boringcompany.com/not-a-flamethrower On a more serious note, the thread has almost 2000 views soon, kinda impressive for a forum which was quite inactive a while ago. And we can learn a thing or two about how we name our topics from here on. The topic name alone seems to be very effective in engaging people in discussions, which is good. Perhaps if we could have thumb-nails for the threads like the videos on youtube have, the clickbaity style of youtube could be fully embraced here too.

We all float down here, in da damn vortex.

lol soon enough you'll be stepping to the stars. btw does someone know if there is a list of all the "ranks/levels" one can reach here on psydernews? I'm stuck in some kinda impossible vortex, would love to know for how long? Is it some type of eternal alien quarantine? LET ME OUT OF IT!

Looking good, do you fill the monitor stands with sand or something? Are you satisfied with them? If yes what brands are they. Having a studio in the cellar must be have some real advantages if one have neighbours close by I think, a proper techno bunker

Yes testing the acido filter more tonight, tried it briefly yesterday, quite juicy! testing some soundbanks as well to get a general feel of what this synth is capable off, found one with some incredible pads. Can't wait to try them out tonight. Bellatrix Audio is the name of the company who made the soundbank, very talented!

It's an interesting topic, I understand the reasoning, but at the same I think it's a bit limiting for those producers who opt for that way of thinking. The easy way is not always the most creative way. It's a shame I think, as there is a wider palette available for making expressive melodic music. But hey, stylistic preferences vary, some music don't rely on melodies so it's up to everyone what they like to do. I do think a track with good melodies can age better sometime than a track which rely solely on the latest technical gimmicks. But yeah depends on the genre as well, techno and acid for sure don't need melodies

Thanks for the links will listen after my forest walk, btw I wonder why knowledge of music theory is not so common within the psy scene? In the regular trance scene It's very common to atleast know more about chords in general. I can't really present any statistics to back up these observations. But it's quite evident when comparing the genres. Perhaps we could name this subgenre Tim Burton trance lol as his visual style is what some of these dark melodic tracks conjure in my mind.

Exactly what I meant by the definition of dark melodic, and to me dark melodic could be either something gothic sounding, ala the Infected Mushroom - Classical Mushroom album or something with a sinister touch ala Hallucinogen - Gamma Goblins pt 2. So often it's about melodies/arps utilizing regular chords, as oposed to oriental scales. Often lots of minor chords, a 3:1 ratio usually, that is 3 minor chords and 1 major chord per 4 chords. And often diminshed chords/scales thrown in for good measure, for that haunted feel. I would separare this from dark goa, as those often have a different vibe, and often wouldn't perhaps sound scary if played back on a piano. As dark goa often is more about dark atmospheres/sinister sounds. There are exceptions of course. And the best examples of this subgenre utilize themes for the naming of the tracks, and fitting album artwork to set the tone, so that it has some depth/conceptual layers. I think the trend was started by Hallucinogen with the abovementioned track, and perhaps somewhat with his "Infernal Machine - The Loin Sleeps tonight" The ideas were then further developer by Infected Mushroom, and later on by Talpa and Pandemonium! So those are the only ones I know of really that fits the vibe I'm looking for. The main focus is not about random noises/FM sounds. As in dark psy, but there can be such elements as something in the background, the main thing is melodic hooks, chords, emotional pads, often warped epic leads/hooks. TB-303 or SH-101 riffs make for great additions to create some familiar acidic drive. As in the loin sleeps tonight example.

Will do thanks experimenting is great fun, I've noticed that the built in EQ has a very creamy filter quality, gonna try routing/controlling it from the mod matrix if possible. And btw forgot to add that the filter sweep example I posted goes from almost fully closed, to fully open in the middle of the clip, back to to almost fully closed. So people understand what's going on

Well yes the thread de-railed long ago. And I think people felt the original topic wasn't much to discuss perhaps since the topic creator hasn't participated. But since he disappeared and as you've noticed not many of us here cared to watch the video, it turned into a meta discussion about anything really. I feel like making a video and using it as a topic feels a bit detached/unpersonal/lazy, I mean for all we know the video might've been shared on many forums/platforms. In this day and age when we get constantly bombarded with promo liks/videos/dj sets/tracks on reddit/facebook etc, it needs to feel interesting enough for me to even click it. I'll usually wait for peoples reactions before considering clicking it. So I mean go ahead and post your reaction to the video, it could make for an interesting discussion. And who knows maybe it'll pique my interest to actually watch the video in question. By not doing so, you yourself contribute to the de-rail/off topic. Perhaps topics about videos or blog posts on external social platforms should be posted in a more suiting forum section, as they are a form of self promotion, to drive traffic/and perhaps revenue. As a comparison, imagine if all users here who make music or dj sets would post them here in the general section, and for example name the topic, "psy trance is dead, here is my attempt to revive it" let's discuss. Members posting something in the general section hopefully do so with the aim of creating an interesting topic, and to participate in said discussion. Or else it can easily come across as just some lazy spam. The topic creator could've written down his ideas/thesis here in the original post and the topic would've had legs on it's own, now it relies on us actually watching a video on youtube, and I think the main intention is perhaps to generate a discussion in the comments section of the youtube video, and not here on psynews. Psynews is probably just a portal where the topic creator thinks a lot of potential people who are interested in the topic might reside. I mean if the video is deleted, this topic has zero legs, which happen quite often when youtube users gets banned/or delete the videos themselves.

Here is the Infecto/Virus filter model with a filter sweep. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cabhbTT6Ag71r4IGHTQLTJCe8LrxEJ7A/view?usp=sharing I'm not too happy with how the filter behaves, at times it sounds as if the filter is fading between some EQ settings. It is not piercing through as I would expect it to.

I've been aiming to recreate some stuff I used to do on the Virus on Spire, so far my impression is that the filter response is a bit weird/off, there is almost as if the filter is empty in the middle, in lack of a better description. As a consequence, doing long filter-sweeps feels a bit unsatisfying, it's almost as if you go from a fully closed filter to wide open way too fast or something, and it goes from fat to thin. I've been trying hard to compensate for this with the envelopes, and the on-board EQ but to no real avail so far. The infecto filter/virus emulation in particular has this behaviour, the perfecto filter behaves little more as one would expect a filter to, but it's not perfect (no pun intended). I will do some more experimenting and trying out the rest of the filters, to come with a more grounded verdict One thing is certain, the Virus has a more 3D-feel to its sound right out of the gate, just by default. The filters in the virus really sculpts the waveforms beautifully. And the wavetables/FM makes for some really expressive/playable sounds. Very easy for example to get a Yamaha DX7 vibe going effortlessly. *Update* Now testing the Scorpio filter with the Black LP2 option, it has the best mojo so far of the filters I've tried out.