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  1. Kinda similar, not sure of the source of the sample:
  2. Lmao and that's a wrap for today, enough psy-trance for this weekend I think. That's like some G√ľnther or Basshunter meets Psy type stuff. If that's where things are heading, then I think a Crazy Frog & Infected Mushroom collab isn't too far away.
  3. I'm currenly watching the horror movie Hereditary on Netflix. I really like it so far, quite original. I hope it keeps on and gets even better. No cheap jump-scares or other typical tricks so common today so far atleast.
  4. I would argue that what has gotten better, is the plugins, and the computers that they run on. Which makes for greater sound fidelity within the DAW's. I'm not saying it's better or worse than the analog and virtual analog counterparts, but the increase in quality in that domain is noticeable. As it's part of the evolution of the computers. In the same way that people who work with 3D-rendering can achieve phenomenal results faster nowadays, there is a lot more CPU/Ram power available today to get very clean sounds from within your DAW. It's a bit like if you compare Toy Story 1 to the CGI movies of today. It's on another level today, all thanks to more efficient computers and evolved software. Of course better CGI or better plugins doesn't necessary equal to better movies or music all the time. But the improved tools are there atleast. And music production is much more accessible today, and thanks to tutorials on youtube, the accumulated knowledge is far more widespread, it used to be a selected few studio wizards who possesed the know-how. The advent of stronger laptops has also taken the music production out of the mystical studio environent, and enabled people to work with music wherever they are, so people might be more skilled today perhaps in some aspects, certainly I suspect when it comes to micro-adjustments/finetuning songs and having total control over every parameter. That type of detailed work is much more difficult with hardware synthesizers/mixing desks. As the workflow has been streamlined within the computer. Another aspect which I surely think has evolved, is the loudspeakers/studio monitors. And I would assume that the audio devices people use at home to listen to music has developed somewhat as well, since most people listen to music on essentially different forms of computers (smart-TV's, smartphones etc). So the computational power increase has benefitted the listener as well. As there are some very nice sound algoritms employed to enhance the listening experience on different platforms/devices. For example I would argue that a PS4 or Xbox One Console is a far more advanced audio player, than what I had available in 1996. Heck even my smartphone is more advanced, as it can access a huge library of music, and there are lots of professional headphone options to chose from, even studio headphones. I had a portable CD player perhaps, and a PS1 which could play regular CD. Then some crappy HIFI stereo or something with a CD-player. And probably some very basic headphones. I mean there was high-end stuff as well of course for the dedicated audiophile. But yeah nowadays CPU power is on another level, providing all sorts of enriched experiences. After all there is a good reason why old music and movies get remastered. They simply don't sound as good on modern systems as they used to sound on their contemporary systems. Or they simply sound like rubbish sometimes by todays standards. A good example is if you go and watch some 80's movie in the cinema today, even although they are remastered, they often lack the clarity of todays best examples. And that is related to this since it's also about the evolution of the music production/sound engineering. Some will argue that a few selected albums have stood the test of time better than others, and that can be true as well. However I wouldn't be surprised if even the Hallucinogen - Twisted album gets remastered in the future, so that we can hear even more details in the already super-detailed sonic textures. @AP regarding the effects processors, like Eventide, I agree they still kick ass, and at the same time todays effect plugins can do things I never thought would be possible within a DAW/computer 20 years ago. It's just amazing to even think about. That I think is the key to the evolution of the electronic music sound of today, the fact that a small computer can be so many things simulanously. The computer acts as an advanced multi-channel multi-FX unit, while at the same time working as a synthesizer/drum machine/sampler rig, on top of that a virtual mixing desk with total recall. And also a mastering enviroment, provided that you have the needed equipment/listening/room treatment/knowledge. So I hope to be alive in 20 more years, to see and hear how the technology has developed by then. The trajectory sure looks promising.
  5. The mood in the Far Harbor expansion was amazing, some true Bioshock type shit I think FO4 had amazing environments and it just felt incredible to explore. The lore and artwork/attention to detail was very good. I don't think the main story line was anything to care about, this type of game to me was always about wandering around, messing with stuff. The human characters/mutants were the weakest part of the game besides the "story". The best part was the synthetics, and the plethora of weird creatures and robots. And I always though the world in the Fallout games would make for a really interesting setting for a TV-series, and lo and behold, I read just the other day that something within the Fallout world is planned for that format. I don't play video games anymore, because I think it's a way too absorbing/engrossing "hobby"(more of lifestyle really) And netflix alone is more than enough to keep you entertained. But yeah I will say there was some amazing games made for the ps4 era. Bloodborne in particular stands out for me.
  6. Yeah I noticed that as well, no chillout area. Well not that I care that used to be mostly a place for people to binge their laughing gas balloons. Not that they don't do their balloons now, it's even worse now lol. People passing out in the middle of the dance floor like dead zombies. Since the laughing gas has become one of the biggest revenues for the organizers, besides the entrance fee and smuggle beer. I can see how the chillout can be as you say an effective spot to recover, certainly on festivals. But on these short illegal forest raves, I don't think it's such a big deal. When people feel they've had enough, it's time to head home.
  7. Well one off or not, what has happened once can happen again. And take surprising directions, the future is unwritten and full of possibilites.
  8. Indeed but as I wrote: "radio/TV friendly edit/remix of a Goa Trance track" There was a deliberate effort from the record companies involved at the time to create interesting touch points between closely related genres. For example the Antiloop remix of Mars Needs Women. As a means to add variation and put the spotlight on other artists/genres within their stable of artists.(Or as a collaborarion between labels). Which I think was a very clever move, as it would no doubt attract a wider audience and fans of Antiloop who saw the Miranda albums with perhaps a sticker citing Antiloop remixes, or by checking the tracklist on the backside of the album. I could definitely see Afgin doing something similar with ASOT or Future Sound of Egypt, in a not too far off future.
  9. I think you should do a vocal cover of "Infected Mushroom - I Wish" You have the same soprano voice as Duvdev. With some autotune or even Infected Mushroom's Manipulator plugin, you could come really close to the original. Heck.. even better I think. Or just use a Roland V-Synth XT for the true elastic audio goodness. You could name it: AZ INFCTD MVSHYRMS PSY TEK TRNZ FT NHJHVH AZ XVER TIKTOK PSYKDLK DNCE
  10. Yeah lots of possibilites, even more so since it seems the track in question is unreleased? So how do people know the full writing credits if it's unreleased? I would assume that CS knows Avi Algranati, since he has mastered one of their albums I saw on discogs. One of the newer ones from 2014 or so.
  11. Refinement, Progression, Evolution. This is the true South Koreaoke spirit. b0m
  12. Interesting points. Where do you think things are heading in todays Psytrance scene compared to back in 2016? Perhaps when Armin Van Buuren and the likes become bored with Psytrance, Goa Trance might become the next buzz word again? I wouldn't be suprised at all if Suntrip Records gets contacted by him in the future.(If he hasn't already). Or maybe Armin and them feel like they've got that base covered, since a lot of Psytrance is marketed as Goa Trance?
  13. Well I wouldn't mind that, I think hardstyle has some really nice euphoric melodies, and memorable/clever intros and interesting production values. Perhaps the hardstyle thing with keychanges affecting even the kickdrum, as the kickdrum in hardstyle is essentially the bassline+kick at the same time. That could perhaps work within the psy/goa style who knows.
  14. Yeah indeed, waves is an apt description. Soon enough people will be complaining about "too much cheesy melodies" again.
  15. Well it's just history repeating I guess. The same thing happened with Goa Trance back in the day. It was a huge commercial success for some labels/artists. One might forget that, and think that Goa always was some kind of underground resistance movement. In middle school pretty much everyone had a copy of some Destination Goa, Goa Head or Distance to Goa compilation here in Sweden at least. Both guys and girls. Same with the Acid Flash compilations, and none were really into the scene or anything. Some older teens in college I knew about were though. Just like all the kids who purchased The Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation, weren't necessarily ravers.
  16. Yes there's lots of things happening right now, the scene as we knew it is changing at a rapid pace. The crowd certainly is different now, gone are the people in Psy-attire. Atleast what I've seen, the majority are teens, which I suspect have either an inclination towards Techno/House or just attend the parties to listen to whatever weird music is playing. And not necessarily listening to this type of music in private or beeing particularly invested. It's pretty much the Tik Tok crowd attenting. Some I suspect beeing under 18, drawn to the illegal nature of these outdoor events. Where alcohol is sold to anyone, and drugs are offered openly by drug dealers who have realized the market value of said parties. This combination of youngsters and lots of drugs/alcohol I think has the potential to become politically toxic, once the society is back to normal(if ever) from the Corona outbreak. The focus of the police seems to be elsewhere for the moment. I didn't know about the phenomenon of Psytrance tracks getting shorter? That's certainly a clear sign of adapting a more mainstream-friendly structure, perhaps for the radio broadcasts. Only examples I knew about before was some Infected Mushroom tracks, but those were really more of synth pop tracks. So it made sense, when there is a verse/pre chorus/chorus/bridge type structure going on, that's the logical thing to do. Here is an example from the golden age of a radio/TV friendly edit/remix of a Goa Trance track, music video and all, broadcasted on one of the two big music channels in Sweden at the time ZTV, the other beeing MTV of course. So yeah we've perhaps come full circle now. It would've fitted even on ASOT with its commercial Trance aspects.
  17. I bump this thread, because I think it's interesting to see how things have progressed since this thread was started. And I find that this thread touched very good on the state of Psytrance in 2016/2017, with some nice reflections from our dear forum members whom are all part of the scene in one way or another. So what's the latest development with regards to the mainstream EDM producers interest in Psytrance? Is there still a buzz? Or did it fade somewhat? I tend to think that perhaps the emergence of Techno as the new event sibling to Psytrance (at least here in Sweden). Has pushed Classic Goa and Neo Goa back somewhat. As I can't seem to find any events/venues playing Goa, which I would love to enjoy once more. Goa used to be the logical partner to Psytrance, but not anymore it seems. So what this basically means for me is that Goa has become like a rare special interest with very few people to share that interest with in Sweden. The active Swedish Goa producers seem to be very few as well. The few I know about are basically Filteria and Ethereal, and Ethereal doesn't seem to have released any new music in a while? Not since 2014 according to discogs. Which basically makes them an inactive project for the time beeing, except for the live show they were supposed to play at the now canceled 2020 Apsara Festival. So the natural thing then becomes to explore what's out there and and enjoy what's on offer. This weekend I attended a very nice outdoors event located in a forest, the Techno floor played Acid and Techno, and it was not bad at all, very hypnotic 303 grooves. Reminded me a lot of the music played at raves in the 90's in Sweden. The Psytrance floor was even more enthralling, with Twilight music and other styles fit for a night in the forest. I'm quite thankful that they didn't play some of the more dull Full-On styles touched upon in this thread(at least they didn't during the few hours I attended) like Vini Vici etc. But yeah I can understand the appeal, certainly for newcommers. As someone in this thread mentioned, I also believe that this more shallow commercial version of Psytrance can serve as an introduction, and a starting point for some deeper explorations of what the genre has to offer. At the end of the day I think what matters most to people is if the music works on the dancefloor, is it dance friendly? One thing I noted was that when switching back and forth between the Techno and the Psytrance floors, is that Psytrance seems to have an edge productionwise over Techno. There was just something much more refined about the very polished futuristic alien sound image of the Psytrance, compared to the more old school sounding nature of Techno. The Psytrance has a distinct clarity in the sound image. Perhaps this is what draws the commercial EDM producers to Psytrance? That there is something appealing about the very high production standards in Psytrance? Even when I compared the mixing quality of Psytrance to the regular Trance of the mid 2000's I found that the Psytrance seemed to be ahead a couple of years with regards to the perceived sound quality. The regular Trance at the time often sounded quite muddy in comparison. So I guess regular Trance might benefit from the production tricks learned from Psytrance. As a consequence of the convergence between the styles by ASOT and others. Perhaps this thread should've been named "A State of Psytrance"
  18. Cool I like psy too, btw are there any particular styles now that has developed with a specific greek spin to em? Like for example how are the darker psy sounds from Greece?
  19. So I went to an outdoors party tonight, and I'm a bit perplexed with regards to the styles they played. Is this Twillight or Dark-Psy? Or are the two terms interchangeable? https://streamable.com/vf6xxp https://streamable.com/lcqin Track-ID if possible
  20. No probs, my bad that didn't really pay attention and inspect the youtube channel. Theres just so much stuff uploaded by randoms on youtube, that it's quite a messy platform for music certainly. No guarantee whatsoever for anything beeing what the track titles say. And as seems to be the case here, not even from artists themselves. Anyways my bet is on human error.
  21. Well I agree but, it didn't connect really to the question of the threads topic. "Do you think psytrance newcomers find old school goa outdated?" We allready know that many of us on this forum are old school goa heads. And that Vini Vici is rather boring music.
  22. Okey that sounds a bit weird indeed. Perhaps he uploaded the wrong mp3 from his p2p folder or something . In the DAT-era there floated lots of tracks with the wrong names. People can be messy sometimes. Only one who can really answer this is the artists I think. Try sending a PM to DJ Miko on youtube or facebook? And/or Space Cat (Avi Algranati). The track was uploaded 9 years ago, and there hasn't been much activity on the channel lately it seems. So yeah facebook is probably the best contact method. https://www.facebook.com/mikogindos.californiasunshine https://www.facebook.com/avialgranati.spacecat
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