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#1 User is offline   Ov3rdos3 Icon

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 07:01 AM

This is an experiment I want to show all of you. Please try this at home.

This will prove that making a standard hard trance loop shouldnt take you longer than 5 minutes, and show you how absolutely fucking , mind-numblingly crap the genre is. Please try this...


1) You want some horseshit crappy cheesetastic tune all the 12 year olds on their $2 hits of rat poison can bop their heads to. Fill this note pattern in with a standard trancy lead. I used one from Predator for this.
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2) now you need some bullshit subbass rumbling in the background like your grandmothers jackhammer dildo through a closed door.
any bullshit subbass will do.


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3) Now since hard trance is "so advanced" you want to actually add ANOTHER layer to the bass line. I know, but more than one bassline layer confuses the 12 year old chav into believing it is "technical" and "advanced sounding"
Use single length "trancy" strings for this one. Give it some reverb if you really want to blow their minds.
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4) Your trance tune is nearly complete, but we still have to add the most advanced and technical part to this loop...

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Please leave this at 4x4. Anything other than that will not be able to be accepted or understood by the average hardhouse/hardhouse clubber.


5) Add a hihat and a string of snares and a clap on every 2nd beat. You could put more effort into this, however anything more complicated than this would scare and confuse the clubber. Leave it simple.

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6) Your super-advanced hardtrance tune is nearly complete, but just to make sure it sounds absoutely killer, fill in yet ANOTHER layer in the background. Some standard APR from vanguard should do the trick.

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Again, I cannot stress enough how this should not be more technical than this. Many people have tried to add more complex patterns here but it had catastrophic effects with clubbers vomitting and shitting all over the dancefloor.

Done. Now add all your layers, render and it should sound something like this...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0J5W8LL6 (500kb)


Extend it. Add some drug reference samples, a few snare rolls and slip it in at the next rave and see if anyone notices...

Yours hatefully,
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 07:38 AM

Okey, now show us how to make some of that fast super evil hardcore drakula-psy, because that would look even more simple.
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 07:43 AM

Don't you get it? As long as you make money off of it, then it's not your fault for idiots out there buying into that shit. The only setback then is people that hate that music would think you're a sell out or a fag or something.

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 09:51 AM

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 11:41 AM

This place is not for criticizing other styles. Moved to music making section.

Penzoline, a 1-letter reply cost you a 1-week ban.
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:41 PM

the fact that it is simple doesnt make it bad. Lots of very good music is simple.
The same could apply to any kind of music (except maybe squarepusher :lol: )
If you don't like it.. why go through all the trouble making a loop of that style :blink:

Why not explain us how to make something usefull ?
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:03 PM

View PostOv3rdos3, on Feb 25 2009, 06:01 AM, said:

This is an experiment I want to show all of you. Please try this at home.

This will prove that making a standard hard trance loop shouldnt take you longer than 5 minutes, and show you how absolutely fucking , mind-numblingly crap the genre is. Please try this...


1) You want some horseshit crappy cheesetastic tune all the 12 year olds on their $2 hits of rat poison can bop their heads to. Fill this note pattern in with a standard trancy lead. I used one from Predator for this.
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Yours hatefully,
Ov3rdos3

I think this is WAY too complex here, the kids are gonna be looking around for some direction when this hits the needle.
Also, you go through a lot of trouble to dis a sound I don't know anyone that listens to.
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 01:41 AM

Hah, I could make a tutorial on how crap Posfords fancy voice samples manipulation is. But do I care?
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Posted 28 February 2009 - 06:10 PM

Every time you use Megaupload, your girlfriend calls me for phone sex.

So don't do it. It was fun the first time but she's got no imagination.

Like the clip btw. I've passed it on to Chris Organic, he said he'll be getting in touch soon.


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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:00 AM

You can do this with just about any genre of modern music...

You could say that the (absolutely gorgeous) theme from Pan's Labyrinth is exceedingly simple and stupid, just some silly lady humming...
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 06:09 PM

your example applies to just about EVERY type of music. I've heard that most early trance never had more than 4 layers simply because samplers didn't technically have the possibility of playing more. And most of those tracks are calssics IMO. Sometimes less = more ;)
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 12:37 AM

Actually it is about how all the parts fit together.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 10:45 AM

View Postneedle ninja, on Mar 12 2009, 12:37 AM, said:

Actually it is about how all the parts fit together.



yep well said :)
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 12:33 PM

don't forget to slap the apsolutely stunnig Maximus compressor on the track when you're done!
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 02:49 PM

Can stop listening to this 12 seconds...
I'm addicted!
true masterpiece, thanks ehehe
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 11:14 PM

Wow, that really sucked!
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Posted 13 April 2009 - 03:55 PM

"It's not very important what melody or baseline you have in a song." - Atmos

You forgot the all important tweaking of knobs. Don't even have an idea what sound you're looking for, just keep playing around until the next hit pops up and slaps you in the face. Then hit "File" and "Export to MySpace".

Sorted.

Oh and it's a little known trick, but adding "killar" or "boom" anywhere in the filename will add an extra sub-bass harmonic to your track (courtesy of the Great Spirit of Music Production) which will indeed "kill" or "boom" any dancefloor on the planet ;)
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Post icon  Posted 26 April 2009 - 10:27 PM

Great! But how do I add vocals?
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